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		By: Homer Lee Honeycut		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Homer Lee Honeycut]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2005 03:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Finally, don’t forget one third of the councilors are now ex-cops.&quot;

Right, two ex-cops but don&#039;t forget one owner of the cop shop.  I like policemen but when it comes to the old law and order versus rights and liberties debates, or budgeting matters, I&#039;d have to say the cop perspective is overrepresented on the council.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Finally, don’t forget one third of the councilors are now ex-cops.&#8221;</p>
<p>Right, two ex-cops but don&#8217;t forget one owner of the cop shop.  I like policemen but when it comes to the old law and order versus rights and liberties debates, or budgeting matters, I&#8217;d have to say the cop perspective is overrepresented on the council.</p>
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		By: Tam		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Peaches,
This IS what we have to look forward to.  And Katie-bar-the-door, when the contracts are to be negotiated.  Tibbs was the Union negotiator for a time, and was the &quot;President&quot; of the management or commanders&#039; association (read union) for even longer.  He is NOT a fiscal conservative.  He likes perks, skiing, gladhanding, making jokes, perks, and skiing.  I guarantee that even though Tibbs does not have the respect of some rank and file because they saw him as more media than cop, there was plenty of joy in mudville when the results were made final, because the purse strings just came unraveled.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peaches,<br />
This IS what we have to look forward to.  And Katie-bar-the-door, when the contracts are to be negotiated.  Tibbs was the Union negotiator for a time, and was the &#8220;President&#8221; of the management or commanders&#8217; association (read union) for even longer.  He is NOT a fiscal conservative.  He likes perks, skiing, gladhanding, making jokes, perks, and skiing.  I guarantee that even though Tibbs does not have the respect of some rank and file because they saw him as more media than cop, there was plenty of joy in mudville when the results were made final, because the purse strings just came unraveled.</p>
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		By: Peaches		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:21:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mr. Tibbs may have won the electorate, but he lost his reputation for being a &quot;man of his word&quot; when he took the Interim Chief job agreeing to the one condition that he not submit his name for the position, then turned right around and was &quot;convinced&quot; by others to do just that.  So is this what we have to look forward to when he&#039;s on the Council . . . taking a stand but being &quot;convinced&quot; to immediately betray that stand?  And I&#039;m sorry, but two ex-policemen on the Council in a year when union contracts need to be re-negotiated for both fire and police does not bode well for general employees who do not have a union.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Tibbs may have won the electorate, but he lost his reputation for being a &#8220;man of his word&#8221; when he took the Interim Chief job agreeing to the one condition that he not submit his name for the position, then turned right around and was &#8220;convinced&#8221; by others to do just that.  So is this what we have to look forward to when he&#8217;s on the Council . . . taking a stand but being &#8220;convinced&#8221; to immediately betray that stand?  And I&#8217;m sorry, but two ex-policemen on the Council in a year when union contracts need to be re-negotiated for both fire and police does not bode well for general employees who do not have a union.</p>
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		By: Porcupine		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2005/11/08/and-the-winners-are/#comment-341</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tam
I would agree with you if Tibbs was a Vandal, but he had his tent up at the last BSU game shaking hands... so that makes him a Bronco right?  Wait now that I think about it ,didn&#039;t he have his tent set up at the Kibbie Dome a couple of weeks ago?

Well what ever.  All of our problems will be solved in Jan.2006.  Oh am I going to enjoy the GUARDIAN during the school bond election, etc., etc.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tam<br />
I would agree with you if Tibbs was a Vandal, but he had his tent up at the last BSU game shaking hands&#8230; so that makes him a Bronco right?  Wait now that I think about it ,didn&#8217;t he have his tent set up at the Kibbie Dome a couple of weeks ago?</p>
<p>Well what ever.  All of our problems will be solved in Jan.2006.  Oh am I going to enjoy the GUARDIAN during the school bond election, etc., etc.</p>
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		By: Tam		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 20:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I guess there were no surprises.  I hope the newly elected council members (incumbent and otherwise) will see there was no clear mandate, no resounding affirmation of what they stand for. Majority votes were not so much about who they are or what they stand for...but about the challengers and what they weren&#039;t and what they didn&#039;t stand for.  That is not a mandate, it is in fact a lesser-than-two-evils resolve. I contend that Tibbs needs to lose his grinning through gritted teeth and let the real work begin.  He is very good at getting others to do his difficult work and looking good in the end.  There is no one now...just him.  All the expensive suits, stylish hats and ostrich boots in the world aren&#039;t going to help him out now.  There is no overtime, no free dry cleaning, no company car.  He is on his own.  I additionally contend that IF something comes of this Jones investigation, that reflects upon his botching of this post-incident, he should resign.  Otherwise we were duped and he duped us.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess there were no surprises.  I hope the newly elected council members (incumbent and otherwise) will see there was no clear mandate, no resounding affirmation of what they stand for. Majority votes were not so much about who they are or what they stand for&#8230;but about the challengers and what they weren&#8217;t and what they didn&#8217;t stand for.  That is not a mandate, it is in fact a lesser-than-two-evils resolve. I contend that Tibbs needs to lose his grinning through gritted teeth and let the real work begin.  He is very good at getting others to do his difficult work and looking good in the end.  There is no one now&#8230;just him.  All the expensive suits, stylish hats and ostrich boots in the world aren&#8217;t going to help him out now.  There is no overtime, no free dry cleaning, no company car.  He is on his own.  I additionally contend that IF something comes of this Jones investigation, that reflects upon his botching of this post-incident, he should resign.  Otherwise we were duped and he duped us.</p>
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		By: Jack		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 19:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I hope all the politicians get their signs down before the next election.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope all the politicians get their signs down before the next election.</p>
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		By: Porcupine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2005 15:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Election is over.  Thank goodness no more slogans.....wait , what did I read this morning.  School Bond election in a couple of months (I think it would be better if they rounded up to 100 million)... New libraries are needed... and lets not forget the convention center.

Slogan for School bond?  Let&#039;s educate our kids in new buildings...

Slogan for Libraries... Let&#039;s not forget the homeless need a warm place and computers also...

Slogan for Convention Center...We don&#039;t care how you vote, we are going to build it any way.

And I thought we would be through with elections for a while.  Silly me
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Election is over.  Thank goodness no more slogans&#8230;..wait , what did I read this morning.  School Bond election in a couple of months (I think it would be better if they rounded up to 100 million)&#8230; New libraries are needed&#8230; and lets not forget the convention center.</p>
<p>Slogan for School bond?  Let&#8217;s educate our kids in new buildings&#8230;</p>
<p>Slogan for Libraries&#8230; Let&#8217;s not forget the homeless need a warm place and computers also&#8230;</p>
<p>Slogan for Convention Center&#8230;We don&#8217;t care how you vote, we are going to build it any way.</p>
<p>And I thought we would be through with elections for a while.  Silly me</p>
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