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		By: Curmudgeon		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2005/11/21/contractor-law-pressures-cities/#comment-411</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Curmudgeon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2005 02:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I hate to have to be the one to point this out, but registration also will help to weed out the bad actors, the hit-and-run artists who have been giving the industry (and Idaho) a bad name.  Seems like we should wait and see whether there&#039;s more bad than good in it.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate to have to be the one to point this out, but registration also will help to weed out the bad actors, the hit-and-run artists who have been giving the industry (and Idaho) a bad name.  Seems like we should wait and see whether there&#8217;s more bad than good in it.</p>
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		By: jwstox		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2005/11/21/contractor-law-pressures-cities/#comment-410</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2005 02:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t have any particular feelings one way or another about the law, but I think your article misstates the regulatory burden on cities.  The city is only required to ask for the reg number and put it on the permit if one is provided by the applicant.  If the applicant doesn&#039;t provide a number, then they have to indicate on the permit that no number was given.  So basically they will be changing their forms, i.e., a few more lines and boxes to check.

The statute clearly states that the cities don&#039;t have to verify if someone is exempt (i.e., why they didn&#039;t provide a number).  Why they would feel it necessary to require an affidavit given this language is beyond me.

The biggest agency impact may be on county prosecutors (and county budgets).  They may be stuck doing the criminal enforcement on these tickets, possibily even citations issued by cities, the way the enforcement statute (Idaho Code 54-5218) reads.

I doubt the AG&#039;s office is going to want to prosecute misdeanor citations throughout the state, and city prosecutors can point to the statute and argue the counties are supposed to do it.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have any particular feelings one way or another about the law, but I think your article misstates the regulatory burden on cities.  The city is only required to ask for the reg number and put it on the permit if one is provided by the applicant.  If the applicant doesn&#8217;t provide a number, then they have to indicate on the permit that no number was given.  So basically they will be changing their forms, i.e., a few more lines and boxes to check.</p>
<p>The statute clearly states that the cities don&#8217;t have to verify if someone is exempt (i.e., why they didn&#8217;t provide a number).  Why they would feel it necessary to require an affidavit given this language is beyond me.</p>
<p>The biggest agency impact may be on county prosecutors (and county budgets).  They may be stuck doing the criminal enforcement on these tickets, possibily even citations issued by cities, the way the enforcement statute (Idaho Code 54-5218) reads.</p>
<p>I doubt the AG&#8217;s office is going to want to prosecute misdeanor citations throughout the state, and city prosecutors can point to the statute and argue the counties are supposed to do it.</p>
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		By: Rod		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2005/11/21/contractor-law-pressures-cities/#comment-409</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 21:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Curmudgeon:

They will have the power of the law to restrict competition.  Many subcontractors will begin to act like an agent of the state.  Checking to make sure everyone on the job has a proper government work permit.  If someone can’t get registered the general contractor could simply suggest to the subcontractor that they either go to work for a larger subcontractor or they could work for the contractor doing the same work as before.  Thereby, forcing the small independent subcontractor out of business.

Make no mistake about it.  This law was passed to restrict entry into the construction business.  Pure and simple.  No other reason.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curmudgeon:</p>
<p>They will have the power of the law to restrict competition.  Many subcontractors will begin to act like an agent of the state.  Checking to make sure everyone on the job has a proper government work permit.  If someone can’t get registered the general contractor could simply suggest to the subcontractor that they either go to work for a larger subcontractor or they could work for the contractor doing the same work as before.  Thereby, forcing the small independent subcontractor out of business.</p>
<p>Make no mistake about it.  This law was passed to restrict entry into the construction business.  Pure and simple.  No other reason.</p>
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		By: Curmudgeon		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2005/11/21/contractor-law-pressures-cities/#comment-408</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 18:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rod said:

&quot;They will turn on each other and the general contractors will be in a position to take advantage of the situation. &quot;

How is that different from pre registration days?  What power does this give GCs that they didn&#039;t have before?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rod said:</p>
<p>&#8220;They will turn on each other and the general contractors will be in a position to take advantage of the situation. &#8221;</p>
<p>How is that different from pre registration days?  What power does this give GCs that they didn&#8217;t have before?</p>
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		By: Treva Hamilton		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2005/11/21/contractor-law-pressures-cities/#comment-407</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Treva Hamilton]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2005 01:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ryan:  I think we have already arrived there.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan:  I think we have already arrived there.</p>
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		By: Ryan McGill		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2005/11/21/contractor-law-pressures-cities/#comment-406</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan McGill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren&#039;t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.&quot;
-Ayn Rand


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren&#8217;t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.&#8221;<br />
-Ayn Rand</p>
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		By: Rod		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2005/11/21/contractor-law-pressures-cities/#comment-405</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 15:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The people who want to restrict your consumer choices have already thought of the process of obtaining building permits:

Idaho Code 54-5209.  BUILDING  PERMITS  AND CONTRACTOR REGISTRATION NUMBER -- POSTING AT SITE.
(1) On and after January 1, 2006, no building inspector or such other authority of any county, municipality or district charged  with  the  duty  of issuing  building  permits or other permits for construction of any type shall issue any permit without first requesting presentment of an Idaho contractor&#039;s registration number. Such egistration number presented shall be conspicuously entered on the face of a permit so issued; provided however, a permit  may  be issued  to  a person otherwise exempt from the provisions of this chapter pro-
vided such permit shall conspicuously contain the phrase &quot;no contractor registration provided&quot; on the face of such permit. No authority charged with the duty of issuing such permit shall be required to verify that the person applying for such permit is exempt as provided in this chapter.
(2)  All  building   permits or other permits for construction of any type shall be posted at the construction site in such a manner that the conspicuous statements set forth in subsection (1) of this section are visible.
(3)  No person engaged in construction activities who is otherwise exempt as  set forth in section 54-5205, Idaho Code, shall be required to have a contractor registration number.

The above law will require the city to place the registration number on any building permit issued.  If a contractor has not registered they will not be able to get a building permit, period.

As you know, most sub-contractors are not required to obtain a building permit. That’s where the fun will begin.  They will turn on each other and the general contractors will be in a position to take advantage of the situation.  Thus, putting many small subcontractors out of business and become employee’s of the larger contractors.  Along with huge increase in prices.  Welcome to America ...Home of the Free!



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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The people who want to restrict your consumer choices have already thought of the process of obtaining building permits:</p>
<p>Idaho Code 54-5209.  BUILDING  PERMITS  AND CONTRACTOR REGISTRATION NUMBER &#8212; POSTING AT SITE.<br />
(1) On and after January 1, 2006, no building inspector or such other authority of any county, municipality or district charged  with  the  duty  of issuing  building  permits or other permits for construction of any type shall issue any permit without first requesting presentment of an Idaho contractor&#8217;s registration number. Such egistration number presented shall be conspicuously entered on the face of a permit so issued; provided however, a permit  may  be issued  to  a person otherwise exempt from the provisions of this chapter pro-<br />
vided such permit shall conspicuously contain the phrase &#8220;no contractor registration provided&#8221; on the face of such permit. No authority charged with the duty of issuing such permit shall be required to verify that the person applying for such permit is exempt as provided in this chapter.<br />
(2)  All  building   permits or other permits for construction of any type shall be posted at the construction site in such a manner that the conspicuous statements set forth in subsection (1) of this section are visible.<br />
(3)  No person engaged in construction activities who is otherwise exempt as  set forth in section 54-5205, Idaho Code, shall be required to have a contractor registration number.</p>
<p>The above law will require the city to place the registration number on any building permit issued.  If a contractor has not registered they will not be able to get a building permit, period.</p>
<p>As you know, most sub-contractors are not required to obtain a building permit. That’s where the fun will begin.  They will turn on each other and the general contractors will be in a position to take advantage of the situation.  Thus, putting many small subcontractors out of business and become employee’s of the larger contractors.  Along with huge increase in prices.  Welcome to America &#8230;Home of the Free!</p>
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		By: Curmudgeon		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2005/11/21/contractor-law-pressures-cities/#comment-404</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Curmudgeon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2005 13:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Guardian says:

&quot;Maybe they could just deny the permit without proof of registration&quot;

And then maye the registration would be worth something.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guardian says:</p>
<p>&#8220;Maybe they could just deny the permit without proof of registration&#8221;</p>
<p>And then maye the registration would be worth something.</p>
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