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		By: Jack		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[My first year in school was in a one room school house.  No electricity, central heating or air conditioning, phone, running water, etc.  The parents of the kids that attended the school paid the teacher.  Sometimes room, sometimes board, sometimes money, depending on who could afford what.  The teacher lived with each child&#039;s family periodically throughout the school year and sometimes had to teach the parents to read and write.  If the other families without children were treated well by the children and their parents, then the teacher usually got a bonus at the end of the school year and an invite to teach the next school year.  The teacher also got room and board and work during the summer from all the families.  I wish I was 5 again.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first year in school was in a one room school house.  No electricity, central heating or air conditioning, phone, running water, etc.  The parents of the kids that attended the school paid the teacher.  Sometimes room, sometimes board, sometimes money, depending on who could afford what.  The teacher lived with each child&#8217;s family periodically throughout the school year and sometimes had to teach the parents to read and write.  If the other families without children were treated well by the children and their parents, then the teacher usually got a bonus at the end of the school year and an invite to teach the next school year.  The teacher also got room and board and work during the summer from all the families.  I wish I was 5 again.</p>
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		By: TG		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[GUARDIAN hit it on the head when he referenced the &quot;upscale apartments and condos in the downtown core&quot;-- add to that the outrageous inflation of home prices in the more desireable Boise neighborhoods, and you have the gentrification formula that effectively forces young families that don&#039;t make over 70K per year into the cheaper environs of far west Boise and Meridian. I know of several people who&#039;d love to live in the North or East Ends and send their kids to the neighborhood schools, but have been priced out of the market. Once upon a time, the North End was an economically diverse area where a young family of modest means could find a decent starter home. Ironically, it may take a bursting of the real estate bubble to stabilize the school age population and re-up the student numbers. I&#039;d like to see it happen, and I say that as a North End homeowner.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GUARDIAN hit it on the head when he referenced the &#8220;upscale apartments and condos in the downtown core&#8221;&#8211; add to that the outrageous inflation of home prices in the more desireable Boise neighborhoods, and you have the gentrification formula that effectively forces young families that don&#8217;t make over 70K per year into the cheaper environs of far west Boise and Meridian. I know of several people who&#8217;d love to live in the North or East Ends and send their kids to the neighborhood schools, but have been priced out of the market. Once upon a time, the North End was an economically diverse area where a young family of modest means could find a decent starter home. Ironically, it may take a bursting of the real estate bubble to stabilize the school age population and re-up the student numbers. I&#8217;d like to see it happen, and I say that as a North End homeowner.</p>
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		By: Ryan		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is long but worth reading.  This system would certainly solve many of our issues with public education.

New Zealand – A Model for Improving Idaho’s Public Education System

By Gale L. Pooley

Faced with financial and academic achievement problems, New Zealand made three simple reforms that dramatically reversed the productivity of their public education system.

Idaho and New Zealand had two things in common; sheepherding and poorly performing public education systems. But things have recently changed. Idaho has lost most of its sheep and New Zealand has completely revamped its public education system. New Zealand students were scoring about 15 percent below average on international tests. Today, they score 15 percent above average. How did this happen?

The New Zealand education system was failing about 30 percent of its children. Idaho’s ISAT is indicating about the same failure rate here in the Gem State. Like Idaho, New Zealand’s cost per student had doubled in 20 years with no improvement in achievement. New Zealanders came to realize bureaucratic wolves were fleecing them in a government monopoly system that lacked the incentives to improve. The Land of Lambs implement three simple yet profound changes:

First they eliminated all of the Boards of Education in the country. Every single school came under the control of a board of trustees elected by the parents of the children at that school, and by nobody else. Talk about local control!

Second, they funded schools based on the number of students that went to them, with no strings attached and no Byzantine formulas.

Third, and most importantly, they told the parents that they had an absolute right to choose where their children would go to school. New Zealanders realized it was absolutely obnoxious that anybody would tell parents that they must send their children to a bad school.

Maurice P. McTigue, who led the reform effort in the New Zealand Parliament, said this right to choose has the greatest effect on the quality of education.

The country’s 4,500 schools were converted to this new system all on the same day.

They also made it possible for privately owned schools to be funded in exactly the same way as publicly owned schools, giving parents the ability to spend their education dollars at the school best-suited to their children’s needs.

Everybody predicted that there would be a major exodus of students from the public to the private schools, because the private schools showed an academic advantage of 14 to 15 percent. It didn’t happen. In 24 months the public schools caught up with the private schools. Why? Because teachers realized that if they lost their students, they would lose their funding; and if they lost their funding, they would lose their jobs.

Eighty-five percent of students went to public schools at the beginning of this process. That fell to only about 84 percent over the first year or so of the reforms. But three years later, 87 percent of the students were going to public schools. Incentives truly matter. New Zealand learned that competition drives quality to the highest common denominator, while monopolies drive it to the lowest.

New Zealand bureaucrats and politicians can no longer pull the wool over the eyes of parents and taxpayers. If Idaho wants to improve our public education system, we should take a lesson from the Kiwi country.

2004.7


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is long but worth reading.  This system would certainly solve many of our issues with public education.</p>
<p>New Zealand – A Model for Improving Idaho’s Public Education System</p>
<p>By Gale L. Pooley</p>
<p>Faced with financial and academic achievement problems, New Zealand made three simple reforms that dramatically reversed the productivity of their public education system.</p>
<p>Idaho and New Zealand had two things in common; sheepherding and poorly performing public education systems. But things have recently changed. Idaho has lost most of its sheep and New Zealand has completely revamped its public education system. New Zealand students were scoring about 15 percent below average on international tests. Today, they score 15 percent above average. How did this happen?</p>
<p>The New Zealand education system was failing about 30 percent of its children. Idaho’s ISAT is indicating about the same failure rate here in the Gem State. Like Idaho, New Zealand’s cost per student had doubled in 20 years with no improvement in achievement. New Zealanders came to realize bureaucratic wolves were fleecing them in a government monopoly system that lacked the incentives to improve. The Land of Lambs implement three simple yet profound changes:</p>
<p>First they eliminated all of the Boards of Education in the country. Every single school came under the control of a board of trustees elected by the parents of the children at that school, and by nobody else. Talk about local control!</p>
<p>Second, they funded schools based on the number of students that went to them, with no strings attached and no Byzantine formulas.</p>
<p>Third, and most importantly, they told the parents that they had an absolute right to choose where their children would go to school. New Zealanders realized it was absolutely obnoxious that anybody would tell parents that they must send their children to a bad school.</p>
<p>Maurice P. McTigue, who led the reform effort in the New Zealand Parliament, said this right to choose has the greatest effect on the quality of education.</p>
<p>The country’s 4,500 schools were converted to this new system all on the same day.</p>
<p>They also made it possible for privately owned schools to be funded in exactly the same way as publicly owned schools, giving parents the ability to spend their education dollars at the school best-suited to their children’s needs.</p>
<p>Everybody predicted that there would be a major exodus of students from the public to the private schools, because the private schools showed an academic advantage of 14 to 15 percent. It didn’t happen. In 24 months the public schools caught up with the private schools. Why? Because teachers realized that if they lost their students, they would lose their funding; and if they lost their funding, they would lose their jobs.</p>
<p>Eighty-five percent of students went to public schools at the beginning of this process. That fell to only about 84 percent over the first year or so of the reforms. But three years later, 87 percent of the students were going to public schools. Incentives truly matter. New Zealand learned that competition drives quality to the highest common denominator, while monopolies drive it to the lowest.</p>
<p>New Zealand bureaucrats and politicians can no longer pull the wool over the eyes of parents and taxpayers. If Idaho wants to improve our public education system, we should take a lesson from the Kiwi country.</p>
<p>2004.7</p>
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		By: Treva Hamilton		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 01:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Perhaps someone has already suggested this idea and I have forgotten who it was, but it seems to me that Boise and Meridian school districts should merge....heaven forbid we should remove a few dozen administrative positions, but we need to promote efficiency.

It should be apparent by now that the population is aging and the school population will obviously drop.  Perhaps we should look at this as a positive move.  When all the problems of society are considered it would be hard to argue against the idea that overpopulation is the major problem.  We should look at the positive side of this:  smaller classes, better opportunities for the next generation, less pressure on the environment, more open space, more space for other species, less need for highways. Think of it as a nation on a diet - we will all feel better for having shed some excess pounds.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps someone has already suggested this idea and I have forgotten who it was, but it seems to me that Boise and Meridian school districts should merge&#8230;.heaven forbid we should remove a few dozen administrative positions, but we need to promote efficiency.</p>
<p>It should be apparent by now that the population is aging and the school population will obviously drop.  Perhaps we should look at this as a positive move.  When all the problems of society are considered it would be hard to argue against the idea that overpopulation is the major problem.  We should look at the positive side of this:  smaller classes, better opportunities for the next generation, less pressure on the environment, more open space, more space for other species, less need for highways. Think of it as a nation on a diet &#8211; we will all feel better for having shed some excess pounds.</p>
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