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	Comments on: Prosecuting Poor Performance at The Poop Farm	</title>
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		By: Maxx		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2005/12/14/prosecuting-poor-performance-at-the-poop-farm/#comment-575</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maxx]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2005 01:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The employees were trying.  All this and much more was reported well over a year ago and possibly as long as two years ago with management choosing to take no action. Employees were getting into trouble for following city policy and finally had to risk going outside the city to get action.

At what point in all this does the mayor believe his program was working?


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The employees were trying.  All this and much more was reported well over a year ago and possibly as long as two years ago with management choosing to take no action. Employees were getting into trouble for following city policy and finally had to risk going outside the city to get action.</p>
<p>At what point in all this does the mayor believe his program was working?</p>
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		By: Nemesis		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2005/12/14/prosecuting-poor-performance-at-the-poop-farm/#comment-574</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nemesis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2005 15:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t help but point out that it took action by the Council to initiate the audit in June and  the council only acted AFTER the allegations started to appear in public about problems at the poop farm. You cannot tell me that it took 3 months after problems were reported (according to their version of the story) to figure out that an audit was needed.  Instead it sounds like they were hoping that the problem would go away or be fired.  So when the mayor and his controllers say that the policies and procedures they put into place worked, they are flat out spinning it better than a presidential candidate.

It is also apparent that there have been problems out there for years and when the problems were brought to management&#039;s attention they were ignored time and again. I bet if a person were to check on the personnel that were “relieved” of their duties out at the farm you would find a number of whistle blowers who tried to do what is right and instead were fired.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t help but point out that it took action by the Council to initiate the audit in June and  the council only acted AFTER the allegations started to appear in public about problems at the poop farm. You cannot tell me that it took 3 months after problems were reported (according to their version of the story) to figure out that an audit was needed.  Instead it sounds like they were hoping that the problem would go away or be fired.  So when the mayor and his controllers say that the policies and procedures they put into place worked, they are flat out spinning it better than a presidential candidate.</p>
<p>It is also apparent that there have been problems out there for years and when the problems were brought to management&#8217;s attention they were ignored time and again. I bet if a person were to check on the personnel that were “relieved” of their duties out at the farm you would find a number of whistle blowers who tried to do what is right and instead were fired.</p>
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		By: MTTTT		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2005/12/14/prosecuting-poor-performance-at-the-poop-farm/#comment-573</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MTTTT]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2005 03:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sounds like City Hall is STILL out of control and STILL deep in the poop.

Something else that smells like poop....the fact that  the Mayor and Council oppose the Suncor development but love to destroy neighborhoods, approve massive condos, row houses and the sprawl at Harris Ranch.

It is all about who gets the tax money - that simple.





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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like City Hall is STILL out of control and STILL deep in the poop.</p>
<p>Something else that smells like poop&#8230;.the fact that  the Mayor and Council oppose the Suncor development but love to destroy neighborhoods, approve massive condos, row houses and the sprawl at Harris Ranch.</p>
<p>It is all about who gets the tax money &#8211; that simple.</p>
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		By: Ex Employee		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2005/12/14/prosecuting-poor-performance-at-the-poop-farm/#comment-572</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ex Employee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2005 03:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I worked on that farm and gave the city this information over two years ago and well I just got on the Poop list and ran off ! So if it went on this long, too damn bad.  There is more there than cattle.   Someone needs to look at crop sales!  And if anyone cares I have both sets of books from the farm !!!  Have A nice Day L.A

Editor note--The GUARDIAN would love to have more information.  Contact us through an e-mail that we can reply to.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I worked on that farm and gave the city this information over two years ago and well I just got on the Poop list and ran off ! So if it went on this long, too damn bad.  There is more there than cattle.   Someone needs to look at crop sales!  And if anyone cares I have both sets of books from the farm !!!  Have A nice Day L.A</p>
<p>Editor note&#8211;The GUARDIAN would love to have more information.  Contact us through an e-mail that we can reply to.</p>
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		By: MX		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2005/12/14/prosecuting-poor-performance-at-the-poop-farm/#comment-571</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MX]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Meglea  - only mentions Clegg - not the name of the &quot;other&quot; councilor. Voters need to know.

Ed note--It was Clegg and we have agreed to a cease fire with neither side claiming victory or admitting defeat on the &quot;false information&quot; issue.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meglea  &#8211; only mentions Clegg &#8211; not the name of the &#8220;other&#8221; councilor. Voters need to know.</p>
<p>Ed note&#8211;It was Clegg and we have agreed to a cease fire with neither side claiming victory or admitting defeat on the &#8220;false information&#8221; issue.</p>
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		By: meglea		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2005/12/14/prosecuting-poor-performance-at-the-poop-farm/#comment-570</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[meglea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[MX, if you read the paragraph again, you should have your answer.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MX, if you read the paragraph again, you should have your answer.</p>
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		By: osprey		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2005/12/14/prosecuting-poor-performance-at-the-poop-farm/#comment-569</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[osprey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Dec 2005 02:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good job Guardian, just don&#039;t hurt your rotater cuff patting yourself on the back too hard.

My only problem with your post is you both take credit for the city investigation while castigating the city for failure to investigate the allegations.  You can&#039;t have it both ways.  Also, it seems to be a stretch to say Boise City Hall is rocked by a scandal when the criminal acts are by a city employee  with a duty station 20 miles away.  But it certainly makes it more juicy to tie it to downtown.

I am pleased to see that Mayor Bieter looked into the allegations and included several city agencies in the investigation.  The charges that were filed appear to be the result of a workmanlike investigation and not brought in haste.  Clearly the Mayor is keeping to his campaign pledge to clean up any problems in city government, including apparently activities south of Kuna or whereever the heck that farm is located.

Now could you please turn your attention to the Statehouse and look into this stink with the GARVEE highway financing and the effort by the ITD board to steer the project management contract to the local firms with the political connections?  Funny how Chuck Winder pops up in that imbroglio.

Ed note--That is painful!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good job Guardian, just don&#8217;t hurt your rotater cuff patting yourself on the back too hard.</p>
<p>My only problem with your post is you both take credit for the city investigation while castigating the city for failure to investigate the allegations.  You can&#8217;t have it both ways.  Also, it seems to be a stretch to say Boise City Hall is rocked by a scandal when the criminal acts are by a city employee  with a duty station 20 miles away.  But it certainly makes it more juicy to tie it to downtown.</p>
<p>I am pleased to see that Mayor Bieter looked into the allegations and included several city agencies in the investigation.  The charges that were filed appear to be the result of a workmanlike investigation and not brought in haste.  Clearly the Mayor is keeping to his campaign pledge to clean up any problems in city government, including apparently activities south of Kuna or whereever the heck that farm is located.</p>
<p>Now could you please turn your attention to the Statehouse and look into this stink with the GARVEE highway financing and the effort by the ITD board to steer the project management contract to the local firms with the political connections?  Funny how Chuck Winder pops up in that imbroglio.</p>
<p>Ed note&#8211;That is painful!</p>
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		By: interested observer		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2005/12/14/prosecuting-poor-performance-at-the-poop-farm/#comment-568</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[interested observer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would like to know how long you have been on the city payroll and if you are getting full benefits.  Since the Mayor claimed that the city has sufficient internal controls to catch crooks and these same controls are the ones that brought the wrong doing to light, it is reasonable to assume you must be working for the city.

The fact of the matter, as you have pointed out, there was a deliberate attempt to “cover-up” the problems  by misdirection. Maybe we should be concerned about this type of behavior because it sounds like it is the type of thing that Bieter was going to clean up.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to know how long you have been on the city payroll and if you are getting full benefits.  Since the Mayor claimed that the city has sufficient internal controls to catch crooks and these same controls are the ones that brought the wrong doing to light, it is reasonable to assume you must be working for the city.</p>
<p>The fact of the matter, as you have pointed out, there was a deliberate attempt to “cover-up” the problems  by misdirection. Maybe we should be concerned about this type of behavior because it sounds like it is the type of thing that Bieter was going to clean up.</p>
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		By: Joe Moran		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2005/12/14/prosecuting-poor-performance-at-the-poop-farm/#comment-567</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Moran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The guardian did it again! The people of Boise have no idea how lucky they are to have a really &quot; free press&quot; watching and pointing  out the corruption in their  city government.We&#039;ed all like to know who the council member was who accused you of publishing &quot; false information.&quot; a real step in putting some honesty back in City Hall is to scrap the &quot;secrecy&quot; of corrective personnel actions.The people deserve to know who is stealing from them!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guardian did it again! The people of Boise have no idea how lucky they are to have a really &#8221; free press&#8221; watching and pointing  out the corruption in their  city government.We&#8217;ed all like to know who the council member was who accused you of publishing &#8221; false information.&#8221; a real step in putting some honesty back in City Hall is to scrap the &#8220;secrecy&#8221; of corrective personnel actions.The people deserve to know who is stealing from them!</p>
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		By: Porcupine		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2005/12/14/prosecuting-poor-performance-at-the-poop-farm/#comment-566</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Porcupine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The only thing that I can say is.... Oh Crap what a problem!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing that I can say is&#8230;. Oh Crap what a problem!</p>
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