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		By: Joe moran		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/03/21/evolution-humans-to-monkeys-chimps-gorillas/#comment-1044</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe moran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 20:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You know, I have one problem  with all of this...Aren&#039;t we giving Gorilla&#039;s, apes ,monkey&#039;s and assorted kin a bad name here? Comparing these awesome creations of Nature to our political entities is a real low-blow to the animal kingdom. I can&#039;t remember ever meeting a politician,especially the one&#039;s that live off us poor tax- payers for life, that couldn&#039;t learn some very valuable lessons from observing the behavior of our simian friends.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I have one problem  with all of this&#8230;Aren&#8217;t we giving Gorilla&#8217;s, apes ,monkey&#8217;s and assorted kin a bad name here? Comparing these awesome creations of Nature to our political entities is a real low-blow to the animal kingdom. I can&#8217;t remember ever meeting a politician,especially the one&#8217;s that live off us poor tax- payers for life, that couldn&#8217;t learn some very valuable lessons from observing the behavior of our simian friends.</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/03/21/evolution-humans-to-monkeys-chimps-gorillas/#comment-1043</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2006 14:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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Maybe it&#039;s time to vote all the Monkeys out of office and be very careful who we replace them with!!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#8217;s time to vote all the Monkeys out of office and be very careful who we replace them with!!</p>
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		By: T.J.		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/03/21/evolution-humans-to-monkeys-chimps-gorillas/#comment-1042</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Mar 2006 01:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Driving west of Eagle one has to wonder who will decide that enough is enough.  At some point one of these developments will run out of customers and a few dug up fields will stay that way for ten or twenty years.  I saw some of that in the early 80&#039;s.  Half finished houses that were foreclosed by banks while the builders took off for Florida or wherever.  The city council needs to look at a reasonable density and hang in there with it until the recent boom plays itself out.  This is getting disgusting.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Driving west of Eagle one has to wonder who will decide that enough is enough.  At some point one of these developments will run out of customers and a few dug up fields will stay that way for ten or twenty years.  I saw some of that in the early 80&#8217;s.  Half finished houses that were foreclosed by banks while the builders took off for Florida or wherever.  The city council needs to look at a reasonable density and hang in there with it until the recent boom plays itself out.  This is getting disgusting.</p>
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		By: curious george		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/03/21/evolution-humans-to-monkeys-chimps-gorillas/#comment-1041</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[curious george]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Annexation shmannexation...

With the little chimp of Kuna saying that it needs to continue to annex to pay for sewer infrastructure, it&#039;s clear that it hasn&#039;t learned to balance its budget. Expansion of NEW service is the only thing that should require the demand for additional revenue (and the new service itself needs to pay for the expansion). Annexing to increase capital funds to pay for existing service deficiencies is like paying off one credit card with another (higher interest) credit card! The chimp should have the balls to increase the existing user fee rates to cover the costs of fixing the deficiencies! Oh well, maybe it was neutured before it was stuck in the zoo...

I don&#039;t mean to pick solely on the little Kuna monkey; Eagle deserves its fair share too. The Eagle Orangutan - as the single biggest steaming pile of sprawl in the valley - has no sewer treatment facility of its own (how apropos)! With the Boise Gorilla decrying the evils of &quot;leap-frog&quot; and &quot;sprawl&quot; development, everyone needs to keep in mind that the silver-back accepts payment to treat King Louie&#039;s orangutan-poop by the trucker tank-full - all to try and satisfy the King&#039;s quest for &quot;rurban&quot; fire.

If the Gorilla were truly interested in curtailing sprawl,  it would stop King Louie&#039;s endless march to the sea (and Canadian border) by refusing to sell its own sewer capacity (dampen the Orangutan&#039;s quest with a little untreated effluent). King Louie&#039;s current low-density target of homes per acre has effectively risen the land value in the city to such unattainable heights that it borders on economic racism.

From the top of the Orangutan&#039;s pointed little head to the bottom of his furry little feet, he&#039;s taken the position that it&#039;s okay for certain people to sell him coffee in the morning, mow his yard on the weekend, and fix his SUV when it breaks down -  but they, by God, will never live side-by-side with the King!

With all the monkeys screaming and throwing poop over territorial &quot;Area of City Impact&quot; issues,  remember it was our Great White Ape in the statehouse that changed Idaho&#039;s land use law, to specifically allow cities to annex land outside their respective areas of impact.

Since these impact areas are the only land the monkeys have made plans for, annexations outside these areas could never be considered thoughtfully planned, or in the best interest of the regional community.  It is a violation of the people&#039;s trust! The Great White Ape has disabled the only legal means to protect the little guy from the predatory monkeys&#039; shenanigans!

It&#039;s a free for all land-grab/tax-grab - and we little humans better buckle down and cover up.  Otherwise we will all become tenants in our own homes, spending our days hosing down the cages while the monkeys use us to practice their aim...
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Annexation shmannexation&#8230;</p>
<p>With the little chimp of Kuna saying that it needs to continue to annex to pay for sewer infrastructure, it&#8217;s clear that it hasn&#8217;t learned to balance its budget. Expansion of NEW service is the only thing that should require the demand for additional revenue (and the new service itself needs to pay for the expansion). Annexing to increase capital funds to pay for existing service deficiencies is like paying off one credit card with another (higher interest) credit card! The chimp should have the balls to increase the existing user fee rates to cover the costs of fixing the deficiencies! Oh well, maybe it was neutured before it was stuck in the zoo&#8230;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to pick solely on the little Kuna monkey; Eagle deserves its fair share too. The Eagle Orangutan &#8211; as the single biggest steaming pile of sprawl in the valley &#8211; has no sewer treatment facility of its own (how apropos)! With the Boise Gorilla decrying the evils of &#8220;leap-frog&#8221; and &#8220;sprawl&#8221; development, everyone needs to keep in mind that the silver-back accepts payment to treat King Louie&#8217;s orangutan-poop by the trucker tank-full &#8211; all to try and satisfy the King&#8217;s quest for &#8220;rurban&#8221; fire.</p>
<p>If the Gorilla were truly interested in curtailing sprawl,  it would stop King Louie&#8217;s endless march to the sea (and Canadian border) by refusing to sell its own sewer capacity (dampen the Orangutan&#8217;s quest with a little untreated effluent). King Louie&#8217;s current low-density target of homes per acre has effectively risen the land value in the city to such unattainable heights that it borders on economic racism.</p>
<p>From the top of the Orangutan&#8217;s pointed little head to the bottom of his furry little feet, he&#8217;s taken the position that it&#8217;s okay for certain people to sell him coffee in the morning, mow his yard on the weekend, and fix his SUV when it breaks down &#8211;  but they, by God, will never live side-by-side with the King!</p>
<p>With all the monkeys screaming and throwing poop over territorial &#8220;Area of City Impact&#8221; issues,  remember it was our Great White Ape in the statehouse that changed Idaho&#8217;s land use law, to specifically allow cities to annex land outside their respective areas of impact.</p>
<p>Since these impact areas are the only land the monkeys have made plans for, annexations outside these areas could never be considered thoughtfully planned, or in the best interest of the regional community.  It is a violation of the people&#8217;s trust! The Great White Ape has disabled the only legal means to protect the little guy from the predatory monkeys&#8217; shenanigans!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a free for all land-grab/tax-grab &#8211; and we little humans better buckle down and cover up.  Otherwise we will all become tenants in our own homes, spending our days hosing down the cages while the monkeys use us to practice their aim&#8230;</p>
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		By: Clancy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clancy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 17:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Couldn&#039;t Boise also be an orangutan with  long arms out to grab what ever they can.  They realize the gorilla&#039;s best attribute--size--is no longer working.  Boise may switch into an orangutan.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couldn&#8217;t Boise also be an orangutan with  long arms out to grab what ever they can.  They realize the gorilla&#8217;s best attribute&#8211;size&#8211;is no longer working.  Boise may switch into an orangutan.</p>
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		By: Rod		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/03/21/evolution-humans-to-monkeys-chimps-gorillas/#comment-1039</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rod]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Monkeys, chimps, apes, and baboons everywhere must feel insulted - to be compared to local politicians and developers.  Cruelty to animals, that&#039;s what it is!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monkeys, chimps, apes, and baboons everywhere must feel insulted &#8211; to be compared to local politicians and developers.  Cruelty to animals, that&#8217;s what it is!</p>
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		By: john		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/03/21/evolution-humans-to-monkeys-chimps-gorillas/#comment-1038</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Barry,

Even though we have a national reputation to uphold, we are not totally stupid up here in Idaho. Why do you think Bush came to Idaho to get our governor for his cabinet? Bush thinks Idaho is a national brain trust. We think what you guys did in Phoenix was so flippin sweet, we want to replicate it up here. Invite your friends, the door&#039;s open.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry,</p>
<p>Even though we have a national reputation to uphold, we are not totally stupid up here in Idaho. Why do you think Bush came to Idaho to get our governor for his cabinet? Bush thinks Idaho is a national brain trust. We think what you guys did in Phoenix was so flippin sweet, we want to replicate it up here. Invite your friends, the door&#8217;s open.</p>
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		By: barry		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[barry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 13:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This is the greatest discription of our local Arizona city mano a&#039; mano I&#039;ve ever seen. How did you pick up on this in Idaho?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the greatest discription of our local Arizona city mano a&#8217; mano I&#8217;ve ever seen. How did you pick up on this in Idaho?</p>
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		By: Steve		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/03/21/evolution-humans-to-monkeys-chimps-gorillas/#comment-1036</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 12:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow, Guardian!  What a treasure-trove of knowledge this website is!  What profound observations from both you and your respondents.

Here&#039;s a bit of primate information I collected some time back, that may apply and may be of interest to your readers:

EXPERIMENT

Start with a cage containing five monkeys.  Inside the cage, hang a banana on a string, and place a set of stairs under it.  Before long, a monkey will go to the stairs and start to climb towards the banana.  As soon as he touches the stairs, spray all the other monkeys with cold water.

After a while, another monkey makes an attempt with the same result – all the other monkeys are sprayed with cold water.  Pretty soon, when another monkey tries to climb the stairs, the other monkeys will try to prevent it.

Now, put away the cold water.  Remove one monkey from the cage and replace it with a new one.  The new monkey sees the banana and wants to climb the stairs.  To his surprise and horror, all of the other monkeys attack him.  After another attempt and attack, he knows that if he tries to climb the stairs, he will be assaulted.

Next remove another of the original five monkeys and replace it with a new one.  The newcomer goes to the stairs and is attacked.  The previous newcomer takes part in the punishment with enthusiasm.  Likewise, replace a third original monkey with a new one, then a fourth, then the fifth.

Every time the newest monkey takes to the stairs, he is attacked.  Most of the monkeys that are beating him have no idea why they were not permitted to climb the stairs, or why they are participating in the beating of the newest monkey.

After replacing all the original monkeys, none of the remaining monkeys have ever been sprayed with cold water.  Nevertheless, no monkey ever again approaches the stairs to try for the banana.  Why not?  Because as far as they know, that’s the way it’s always been done around here.

And that, my friend, is how a [government] policy begins.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Guardian!  What a treasure-trove of knowledge this website is!  What profound observations from both you and your respondents.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a bit of primate information I collected some time back, that may apply and may be of interest to your readers:</p>
<p>EXPERIMENT</p>
<p>Start with a cage containing five monkeys.  Inside the cage, hang a banana on a string, and place a set of stairs under it.  Before long, a monkey will go to the stairs and start to climb towards the banana.  As soon as he touches the stairs, spray all the other monkeys with cold water.</p>
<p>After a while, another monkey makes an attempt with the same result – all the other monkeys are sprayed with cold water.  Pretty soon, when another monkey tries to climb the stairs, the other monkeys will try to prevent it.</p>
<p>Now, put away the cold water.  Remove one monkey from the cage and replace it with a new one.  The new monkey sees the banana and wants to climb the stairs.  To his surprise and horror, all of the other monkeys attack him.  After another attempt and attack, he knows that if he tries to climb the stairs, he will be assaulted.</p>
<p>Next remove another of the original five monkeys and replace it with a new one.  The newcomer goes to the stairs and is attacked.  The previous newcomer takes part in the punishment with enthusiasm.  Likewise, replace a third original monkey with a new one, then a fourth, then the fifth.</p>
<p>Every time the newest monkey takes to the stairs, he is attacked.  Most of the monkeys that are beating him have no idea why they were not permitted to climb the stairs, or why they are participating in the beating of the newest monkey.</p>
<p>After replacing all the original monkeys, none of the remaining monkeys have ever been sprayed with cold water.  Nevertheless, no monkey ever again approaches the stairs to try for the banana.  Why not?  Because as far as they know, that’s the way it’s always been done around here.</p>
<p>And that, my friend, is how a [government] policy begins.</p>
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		By: dh		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/03/21/evolution-humans-to-monkeys-chimps-gorillas/#comment-1035</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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Guardian,
I enjoyed your humorous analogies.
It reminds me of a comparison to Chain of Command as related by an old Chief.  CoC Is often like a bare tree full of monkeys.  The ones at the top look down occasionally and see nothing but big eyes and gritted teeth that they interpret to be smiles.  The closer the lower simians are to the bottom, the more bare &quot;bottoms&quot; they see and the more &quot;pollution&quot; they must contend with.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guardian,<br />
I enjoyed your humorous analogies.<br />
It reminds me of a comparison to Chain of Command as related by an old Chief.  CoC Is often like a bare tree full of monkeys.  The ones at the top look down occasionally and see nothing but big eyes and gritted teeth that they interpret to be smiles.  The closer the lower simians are to the bottom, the more bare &#8220;bottoms&#8221; they see and the more &#8220;pollution&#8221; they must contend with.</p>
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