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		By: HH		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/04/23/flood-is-about-more-than-water/#comment-1368</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 02:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tam, as a third generation Idahoan who has never lived in California I must disagree with you about the sound of a Harley Davidson.  I do find their well known sound obnoxiously irritating as well as much too loud. I just thought that the IRRITATINGLY LOUD sound was a part of the attraction for those who rode them. That noise announces to the world that one is not riding anything but an HD....it’s not a BSA, nor an Indian, nor anything but an IRRITATINGLY LOUD HARLEY and if ya don’t like it, too bad.

So one does not come from California (ask the Hell&#039;s Angels) to enjoy peace and quiet.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tam, as a third generation Idahoan who has never lived in California I must disagree with you about the sound of a Harley Davidson.  I do find their well known sound obnoxiously irritating as well as much too loud. I just thought that the IRRITATINGLY LOUD sound was a part of the attraction for those who rode them. That noise announces to the world that one is not riding anything but an HD&#8230;.it’s not a BSA, nor an Indian, nor anything but an IRRITATINGLY LOUD HARLEY and if ya don’t like it, too bad.</p>
<p>So one does not come from California (ask the Hell&#8217;s Angels) to enjoy peace and quiet.</p>
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		By: Jennifer		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/04/23/flood-is-about-more-than-water/#comment-1367</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 03:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think it might be important to point out to the richy-riches whose mansions along the Boise river are threatened by flooding that thousands of the poorest people in Eastern Europe, Romanina, Ukraine, Hungary, etc. are being displaced by serious flooding of the Danube river at this moment.

These people do not have the resources that the Boise Riverside dwellers have to sustain themselves in such a crisis. Many of these Europeans are now homeless without the luxury of flood insurance or fat bank account to fall back on in the case of such an emergency.

I find it utterly pathetic that these Eagle residents are threatening legal action for &quot;potential&quot; flooding when there are those around the world who have lost everything and have nothing but the sweat on their brow and the will to move on
to start over again. It makes me sick.

Flood victims image capture from MSNBC week in pictures:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.2gn.net/images/4BG94620.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.2gn.net/images/4BG94620.jpg&lt;/a&gt;

Anyway, I thought it was a good point to ponder.

Thank you for this site. It is a breath of fresh air.

Jennifer
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it might be important to point out to the richy-riches whose mansions along the Boise river are threatened by flooding that thousands of the poorest people in Eastern Europe, Romanina, Ukraine, Hungary, etc. are being displaced by serious flooding of the Danube river at this moment.</p>
<p>These people do not have the resources that the Boise Riverside dwellers have to sustain themselves in such a crisis. Many of these Europeans are now homeless without the luxury of flood insurance or fat bank account to fall back on in the case of such an emergency.</p>
<p>I find it utterly pathetic that these Eagle residents are threatening legal action for &#8220;potential&#8221; flooding when there are those around the world who have lost everything and have nothing but the sweat on their brow and the will to move on<br />
to start over again. It makes me sick.</p>
<p>Flood victims image capture from MSNBC week in pictures:<br />
<a href="http://www.2gn.net/images/4BG94620.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.2gn.net/images/4BG94620.jpg</a></p>
<p>Anyway, I thought it was a good point to ponder.</p>
<p>Thank you for this site. It is a breath of fresh air.</p>
<p>Jennifer</p>
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		By: john		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/04/23/flood-is-about-more-than-water/#comment-1366</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If people think the flooding is bad now just wait until we have a real flood. This amount of water we have now is close to a normal high water year.

If you think Californians moving to Idaho is bad now, wait until the next big quake hits down there. They will come in droves like the big cattle drives in our past history.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If people think the flooding is bad now just wait until we have a real flood. This amount of water we have now is close to a normal high water year.</p>
<p>If you think Californians moving to Idaho is bad now, wait until the next big quake hits down there. They will come in droves like the big cattle drives in our past history.</p>
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		By: Tam		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think we Idahoans (natively speaking) have finely honed observation skills and the gift of discernment that does, in fact, allow us to sniff out a &quot;Caulifornian&quot; a mile off. Here&#039;s proof:   (example) Joe says his coworker has a loud Harley, which is irritating...so, Joe is from Caulifornia.  We, born here, know there is NO SUCH THING AS AN IRRITATINGLY LOUD HARLEY.  I am hoping Steve will back me up here.  I used to ride, I don&#039;t anymore, but the louder the better and the sound still makes my heart beat faster and forces a smile to my face. Only a ferriner could think it irritating.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we Idahoans (natively speaking) have finely honed observation skills and the gift of discernment that does, in fact, allow us to sniff out a &#8220;Caulifornian&#8221; a mile off. Here&#8217;s proof:   (example) Joe says his coworker has a loud Harley, which is irritating&#8230;so, Joe is from Caulifornia.  We, born here, know there is NO SUCH THING AS AN IRRITATINGLY LOUD HARLEY.  I am hoping Steve will back me up here.  I used to ride, I don&#8217;t anymore, but the louder the better and the sound still makes my heart beat faster and forces a smile to my face. Only a ferriner could think it irritating.</p>
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		By: CYCLOPS		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I do not understand why we have such great fun &quot;trashing&quot; Californians. Have you SEEN California lately? I applaud them for wanting a better life than that &quot;ant-pile&quot; they lived in.

Having said that, I am not very understanding if they move here, make some real poor choices on where to live, bitch about the traffic, schools, and government services and expect us to pay the bill.

I say, &quot;welcome those of you fleeing California- just don&#039;t try to turn Idaho into a suburb of Sacramento!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not understand why we have such great fun &#8220;trashing&#8221; Californians. Have you SEEN California lately? I applaud them for wanting a better life than that &#8220;ant-pile&#8221; they lived in.</p>
<p>Having said that, I am not very understanding if they move here, make some real poor choices on where to live, bitch about the traffic, schools, and government services and expect us to pay the bill.</p>
<p>I say, &#8220;welcome those of you fleeing California- just don&#8217;t try to turn Idaho into a suburb of Sacramento!</p>
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		By: Joe		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2006 03:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m amazed at your readers ability to identify stranger&#039;s state of origin based on their level of irritating habits.  I share this ability.  For instance, my coworker with the loud harley claims to be a 4th gen Idahoan, but I know better.   I saw a woman picking her nose on the street today.  Definity Orange County, probably a south Anaheim native.

I would have loved to have stayed in Northern California.   Alas, I couldn&#039;t afford to buy a house in the town I grew up in.  Now that was a beautiful place before it was &#039;discovered&#039;.

Oh, the irony.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m amazed at your readers ability to identify stranger&#8217;s state of origin based on their level of irritating habits.  I share this ability.  For instance, my coworker with the loud harley claims to be a 4th gen Idahoan, but I know better.   I saw a woman picking her nose on the street today.  Definity Orange County, probably a south Anaheim native.</p>
<p>I would have loved to have stayed in Northern California.   Alas, I couldn&#8217;t afford to buy a house in the town I grew up in.  Now that was a beautiful place before it was &#8216;discovered&#8217;.</p>
<p>Oh, the irony.</p>
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		By: steve		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2006 23:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;OH, MY HECK&quot;
Wasn&#039;t there a Idaho demographic report published recently that claimed that most people moving to Idaho from other places came from #1 UTAH, #2 Oregon, and #3 California.
As a Idaho Native, pushing 70 years, it is my observation that: (1) MOST Californians come here to be next to their Grand-Kids and with the ability to support them selves and pay taxes. (2) Oregons come here with a work-ethic, contribute to society and pay taxes. (3) Utes move here with $1100, $100 down on a new Suburban, $1000 down on a house, start popping kids, declare bankruptcy, go on welfare and expect everyone to pay for their lifestyle.  DON&#039;T UTAX, IDAHO!

EDITOR NOTE--The commenter&#039;s facts are off.  A national population expert speaking  at the Idaho Association of Commerce and Industry  convention recently offered the following data:

His research shows 14 percent of the population in the state capitol arrived from Southern California and 8 percent from San Francisco.  That means 22% of all newbies are from California.  Also, 10 percent from Puget Sound, 10 percent from Eastern Oregon AND Washington, 9 percent from Salt Lake City, 8 percent from Portland/Vancouver.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;OH, MY HECK&#8221;<br />
Wasn&#8217;t there a Idaho demographic report published recently that claimed that most people moving to Idaho from other places came from #1 UTAH, #2 Oregon, and #3 California.<br />
As a Idaho Native, pushing 70 years, it is my observation that: (1) MOST Californians come here to be next to their Grand-Kids and with the ability to support them selves and pay taxes. (2) Oregons come here with a work-ethic, contribute to society and pay taxes. (3) Utes move here with $1100, $100 down on a new Suburban, $1000 down on a house, start popping kids, declare bankruptcy, go on welfare and expect everyone to pay for their lifestyle.  DON&#8217;T UTAX, IDAHO!</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;The commenter&#8217;s facts are off.  A national population expert speaking  at the Idaho Association of Commerce and Industry  convention recently offered the following data:</p>
<p>His research shows 14 percent of the population in the state capitol arrived from Southern California and 8 percent from San Francisco.  That means 22% of all newbies are from California.  Also, 10 percent from Puget Sound, 10 percent from Eastern Oregon AND Washington, 9 percent from Salt Lake City, 8 percent from Portland/Vancouver.</p>
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		By: Steve		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2006 18:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Time for today&#039;s religion lesson, boys and girls.

&quot;... A wise man ... built his house upon a rock:

&quot;And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.

&quot;... A foolish man ... built his house upon the sand:

&quot;And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.&quot;

- Jesus (paraphrased from Matthew 7:24-27)

I would add, &quot;... and great was the weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth... and threats of litigation.&quot;

And I&#039;d also speculate that the wise man&#039;s house wasn&#039;t built in the river bottoms.  A wise man would NEVER build a house in the river bottoms!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time for today&#8217;s religion lesson, boys and girls.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; A wise man &#8230; built his house upon a rock:</p>
<p>&#8220;And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; A foolish man &#8230; built his house upon the sand:</p>
<p>&#8220;And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211; Jesus (paraphrased from Matthew 7:24-27)</p>
<p>I would add, &#8220;&#8230; and great was the weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth&#8230; and threats of litigation.&#8221;</p>
<p>And I&#8217;d also speculate that the wise man&#8217;s house wasn&#8217;t built in the river bottoms.  A wise man would NEVER build a house in the river bottoms!</p>
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		By: jec		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The best Idaho vanity plate I ever had the privilege to drive behind: GOBK2CA.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best Idaho vanity plate I ever had the privilege to drive behind: GOBK2CA.</p>
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		By: Inside		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2006 17:50:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Several have asked how all this building in the flood plain gets approved.....same way that massive condos and row houses get approved.

Your elected officals have agendas with the developers and they allow &quot;variances&quot; or even amend the comp plans to accommidate. Most of the time the area home owners are never notified (because they live more than 300 ft away) nor does the city or county want them to know - they might show up and voice an opinion!

You might has well know now that the comp plan and your neighborhood plans are not worth the paper they are written on - especially in Boise.

Neighborhood plans were (and are) just a way to make the neighborhoods &quot;feel like&quot; they have a voice - but not a voice tha holds any water..pun intended.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several have asked how all this building in the flood plain gets approved&#8230;..same way that massive condos and row houses get approved.</p>
<p>Your elected officals have agendas with the developers and they allow &#8220;variances&#8221; or even amend the comp plans to accommidate. Most of the time the area home owners are never notified (because they live more than 300 ft away) nor does the city or county want them to know &#8211; they might show up and voice an opinion!</p>
<p>You might has well know now that the comp plan and your neighborhood plans are not worth the paper they are written on &#8211; especially in Boise.</p>
<p>Neighborhood plans were (and are) just a way to make the neighborhoods &#8220;feel like&#8221; they have a voice &#8211; but not a voice tha holds any water..pun intended.</p>
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