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		By: Andrea		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/05/24/insider-trading-at-city-hall/#comment-1693</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 01:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So Perry what you are saying is that Jade and others in the Mayors office were (are) confused? Neat way of saying we lied in our &quot;actions taken&quot; log.

And we trust these folks to run our city, investigate poop farm issues and make un-bias rulings on growth and infill? I venture to say they have been (are) confused a lot during those times too.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Perry what you are saying is that Jade and others in the Mayors office were (are) confused? Neat way of saying we lied in our &#8220;actions taken&#8221; log.</p>
<p>And we trust these folks to run our city, investigate poop farm issues and make un-bias rulings on growth and infill? I venture to say they have been (are) confused a lot during those times too.</p>
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		By: Perry		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/05/24/insider-trading-at-city-hall/#comment-1692</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Perry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2006 20:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was contacted by a representative (Jade) from the Mayors office and told that there had been some confusion regarding my hotline question.  As a result of this confusion, I was not notified of the resolution as stated in the &quot;actions taken&quot; area.  Jade apologized for the confusion.  Just wanted to update everyone.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was contacted by a representative (Jade) from the Mayors office and told that there had been some confusion regarding my hotline question.  As a result of this confusion, I was not notified of the resolution as stated in the &#8220;actions taken&#8221; area.  Jade apologized for the confusion.  Just wanted to update everyone.</p>
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		By: mojo		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/05/24/insider-trading-at-city-hall/#comment-1691</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mojo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 May 2006 02:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ferris B.,

Yes, but what you said did allow for me to rant on about the fact that the tax payers are the ones who seem to pick up the tab for the actions of &quot;stupid is as stupid does&quot; .
We may recall the great &quot;mistake&quot; of President Bush and his weapons of mass destruction - which is costing lives as well as taxpayer monies into generations to come.

Several years ago there was an ad on the TV - the sound bite was &quot;IMAGE IS EVERYTHING&quot; and it does appear that many took that to heart, including our local governmental officials.

We need a good sound bite for subtance..... (heavy sigh)
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ferris B.,</p>
<p>Yes, but what you said did allow for me to rant on about the fact that the tax payers are the ones who seem to pick up the tab for the actions of &#8220;stupid is as stupid does&#8221; .<br />
We may recall the great &#8220;mistake&#8221; of President Bush and his weapons of mass destruction &#8211; which is costing lives as well as taxpayer monies into generations to come.</p>
<p>Several years ago there was an ad on the TV &#8211; the sound bite was &#8220;IMAGE IS EVERYTHING&#8221; and it does appear that many took that to heart, including our local governmental officials.</p>
<p>We need a good sound bite for subtance&#8230;.. (heavy sigh)</p>
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		By: Ferris B.		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/05/24/insider-trading-at-city-hall/#comment-1690</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ferris B.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 May 2006 01:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mojo,

I never said that person shouldn&#039;t take a hit.  I merely was stating this scenario could be plausible.

This administration will always be about image and nothing else.

Substance would be a nice change...
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mojo,</p>
<p>I never said that person shouldn&#8217;t take a hit.  I merely was stating this scenario could be plausible.</p>
<p>This administration will always be about image and nothing else.</p>
<p>Substance would be a nice change&#8230;</p>
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		By: junkyard dog		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/05/24/insider-trading-at-city-hall/#comment-1689</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[junkyard dog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 May 2006 22:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As one who has called to hotline several times in the past to report this, that, or the other thing.....it&#039;s been my experience that calling the hotline actually WORKS.  I got the tip from a neighborhood cop who says the mayor&#039;s office passes off the complaint to the various department heads, who in turn have to report back to the mayor&#039;s office with a solution &amp; a reponse within 48 hours. So there was an employee who boo-booed and noted that the problem was resolved when it really wasn&#039;t. Guess what folks, we ALL have done that in the past....(How many times have YOU drawn checks against a deposit you forgot to make????)
There&#039;s no denying that the hotline does have a certain placebo effort for those who just want to whine...but when I&#039;ve made a legimate complaint, I&#039;ve received follow-up calls from the departments heads of PDS, Parks &amp; Rec, and the police department along with immediate action for solving the problem. Now THAT&#039;S service!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As one who has called to hotline several times in the past to report this, that, or the other thing&#8230;..it&#8217;s been my experience that calling the hotline actually WORKS.  I got the tip from a neighborhood cop who says the mayor&#8217;s office passes off the complaint to the various department heads, who in turn have to report back to the mayor&#8217;s office with a solution &#038; a reponse within 48 hours. So there was an employee who boo-booed and noted that the problem was resolved when it really wasn&#8217;t. Guess what folks, we ALL have done that in the past&#8230;.(How many times have YOU drawn checks against a deposit you forgot to make????)<br />
There&#8217;s no denying that the hotline does have a certain placebo effort for those who just want to whine&#8230;but when I&#8217;ve made a legimate complaint, I&#8217;ve received follow-up calls from the departments heads of PDS, Parks &#038; Rec, and the police department along with immediate action for solving the problem. Now THAT&#8217;S service!</p>
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		By: mojo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 May 2006 17:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So what Ferris is saying is &quot;stupid is as stupid does&quot; and it&#039;s ok that the taxpayers get to pick up the tab (again) because that slap on the wrist does not include the consequence of paying for the &quot;mistake&quot;? Yeah, let&#039;s raise our children that way as well. &quot;what!!! I have to turn in that homework?&quot; &quot;But I didn&#039;t know that taking the jacket that wasn&#039;t mine was not ok...call me stupid but let me keep the jacket.&quot;  Let me see...being stupid pays off.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what Ferris is saying is &#8220;stupid is as stupid does&#8221; and it&#8217;s ok that the taxpayers get to pick up the tab (again) because that slap on the wrist does not include the consequence of paying for the &#8220;mistake&#8221;? Yeah, let&#8217;s raise our children that way as well. &#8220;what!!! I have to turn in that homework?&#8221; &#8220;But I didn&#8217;t know that taking the jacket that wasn&#8217;t mine was not ok&#8230;call me stupid but let me keep the jacket.&#8221;  Let me see&#8230;being stupid pays off.</p>
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		By: Ferris B.		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/05/24/insider-trading-at-city-hall/#comment-1687</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ferris B.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 May 2006 11:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maybe we should slow down a bit.  I am not one to defend Team Dave and would never, ever come to the defense of Mr. Riley.

However, could it be that someone was just being stupid when they mailed the thing out?  There is lots of stupid everywhere.  Perhaps the employee in question is not that bright and therefore didn&#039;t think anything wrong with what they did, even though it was a very stupid act.

As for Team Dave and Mr. Riley, well the placebo comment is spot on.  As long as it looks like somthing is being done, they feel it is as good as having it done.  It is exactly the same as their so called ethics policies.  Because they have this means something very real in their minds.  Pull back and look at it objectively and you see it for what it is - all hat and no cattle.

EDITOR NOTE--Ferris, you got it totally correct. There was a minor infraction which was reported and corrected.  At that point the system burped and &quot;victim&quot; truthfully reports to us that city never contacted him.  GUARDIAN blog worked to perfection, one foul two freethrows. Play ball.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe we should slow down a bit.  I am not one to defend Team Dave and would never, ever come to the defense of Mr. Riley.</p>
<p>However, could it be that someone was just being stupid when they mailed the thing out?  There is lots of stupid everywhere.  Perhaps the employee in question is not that bright and therefore didn&#8217;t think anything wrong with what they did, even though it was a very stupid act.</p>
<p>As for Team Dave and Mr. Riley, well the placebo comment is spot on.  As long as it looks like somthing is being done, they feel it is as good as having it done.  It is exactly the same as their so called ethics policies.  Because they have this means something very real in their minds.  Pull back and look at it objectively and you see it for what it is &#8211; all hat and no cattle.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Ferris, you got it totally correct. There was a minor infraction which was reported and corrected.  At that point the system burped and &#8220;victim&#8221; truthfully reports to us that city never contacted him.  GUARDIAN blog worked to perfection, one foul two freethrows. Play ball.</p>
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		By: Wirt		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/05/24/insider-trading-at-city-hall/#comment-1686</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wirt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 May 2006 01:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Perry Oldenburg now has a problem. Given the temperament that the city has regarding the Boise Guardian, he’ll be hearing from them now(ugly).

However, I for one am please that he came forth with this information, if what he says is true (I believe it is), there is a even bigger problem here.

We’ve seen corruption from within the management ranks of Public Works, not only at the City’s Farm, but also at the Treatment Plants. Obvious signs of a senior level management cover-up and now it appears even the Mayor’s Hotline comments may have some trust issues.

The Hotline issue doesn&#039;t sound like much, but if it&#039;s true - it says volumes that amount to much more.

I hope we&#039;ll be hearing more about this soon.






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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perry Oldenburg now has a problem. Given the temperament that the city has regarding the Boise Guardian, he’ll be hearing from them now(ugly).</p>
<p>However, I for one am please that he came forth with this information, if what he says is true (I believe it is), there is a even bigger problem here.</p>
<p>We’ve seen corruption from within the management ranks of Public Works, not only at the City’s Farm, but also at the Treatment Plants. Obvious signs of a senior level management cover-up and now it appears even the Mayor’s Hotline comments may have some trust issues.</p>
<p>The Hotline issue doesn&#8217;t sound like much, but if it&#8217;s true &#8211; it says volumes that amount to much more.</p>
<p>I hope we&#8217;ll be hearing more about this soon.</p>
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		By: bikeboy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bikeboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 18:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hmmm... the plot thickens.

Maybe Mr. Oldenburg better check in with us every couple days, just so we know he&#039;s OK.  There are sinister forces at work here.  It would easy for him to &quot;trip&quot; (nudge nudge, wink wink) on the greenbelt, and get swept away by that swift-flowing current, ending up floating face-down in somebody&#039;s yard on Eagle Island.  (I&#039;m just off another season of &quot;24&quot; here, but I&#039;m picturing a &quot;Team Dave&quot; where Dave is just a puppet of a secretive shadow government.  Gary Lyman is really calling the shots, via untraceable, encrypted satellite cell phone, from his armored underground fortress.)
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230; the plot thickens.</p>
<p>Maybe Mr. Oldenburg better check in with us every couple days, just so we know he&#8217;s OK.  There are sinister forces at work here.  It would easy for him to &#8220;trip&#8221; (nudge nudge, wink wink) on the greenbelt, and get swept away by that swift-flowing current, ending up floating face-down in somebody&#8217;s yard on Eagle Island.  (I&#8217;m just off another season of &#8220;24&#8221; here, but I&#8217;m picturing a &#8220;Team Dave&#8221; where Dave is just a puppet of a secretive shadow government.  Gary Lyman is really calling the shots, via untraceable, encrypted satellite cell phone, from his armored underground fortress.)</p>
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		By: Tam		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 17:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It makes one question the &quot;action taken&quot; on every hotline call.  Do you mean, Perry, that NO ONE has contacted you about this?  Not the Mayor&#039;s staff or HR or Legal? If that&#039;s the case, the City Council is being duped as well as the public.  Putting these logs on the Guardian will maybe serve a greater good than just providing entertainment for those of us who get a chuckle out of them.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes one question the &#8220;action taken&#8221; on every hotline call.  Do you mean, Perry, that NO ONE has contacted you about this?  Not the Mayor&#8217;s staff or HR or Legal? If that&#8217;s the case, the City Council is being duped as well as the public.  Putting these logs on the Guardian will maybe serve a greater good than just providing entertainment for those of us who get a chuckle out of them.</p>
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