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		By: Just Noticed		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/06/04/mainstream-media-easy-on-city/#comment-1787</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[I just noticed a Statesman Blog...

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.topix.net/city/boise-id&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.topix.net/city/boise-id&lt;/a&gt;

I figured that the news media would work it&#039;s way towards news Blogs with comments sections similar to what the Guardian offers...

The Statesman has joined forces in doing just that.

However, neither the stories nor the comments have that special Guardian touch (smile)...

I call it the “touch of truth” where the Guardian doesn&#039;t just report on the issues, it gets involved with both the issues and those responding to them.

I have learned a great deal about government as a whole and not just the negative side of it since I started reading the Guardian. For me, it&#039;s been both informative and educational.

Nice touch...


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just noticed a Statesman Blog&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.topix.net/city/boise-id" rel="nofollow">http://www.topix.net/city/boise-id</a></p>
<p>I figured that the news media would work it&#8217;s way towards news Blogs with comments sections similar to what the Guardian offers&#8230;</p>
<p>The Statesman has joined forces in doing just that.</p>
<p>However, neither the stories nor the comments have that special Guardian touch (smile)&#8230;</p>
<p>I call it the “touch of truth” where the Guardian doesn&#8217;t just report on the issues, it gets involved with both the issues and those responding to them.</p>
<p>I have learned a great deal about government as a whole and not just the negative side of it since I started reading the Guardian. For me, it&#8217;s been both informative and educational.</p>
<p>Nice touch&#8230;</p>
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		By: Reader		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/06/04/mainstream-media-easy-on-city/#comment-1786</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2006 01:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In a recent interview on Boise State Radio (NPR), The Statesman&#039;s new Executive Editor (Vicki S. Gowler) announced that part of her improvement goals was to keep the public more informed on what was happening within their local government and to have the government be more responsible to the people they serve.

There is no doubt in my mind that news reporting at that level, (provided it was kept honest and without judgment) would being customers back and peak valley wide reader interest.  It’s the kind of stuff “barber shop” talk used to be about.

She was either engaged in idle talk or had a short lived goal.  The only &quot;change&quot; I&#039;ve seen is the new format they are now using.

That said, if the AG’s office and others charged with protecting the public can turn a blind eye to all that has been going on at City of Boise over the Public Works mess why would the Statesman want to get their hands dirty?  Better to play it safe than to be sorry…


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a recent interview on Boise State Radio (NPR), The Statesman&#8217;s new Executive Editor (Vicki S. Gowler) announced that part of her improvement goals was to keep the public more informed on what was happening within their local government and to have the government be more responsible to the people they serve.</p>
<p>There is no doubt in my mind that news reporting at that level, (provided it was kept honest and without judgment) would being customers back and peak valley wide reader interest.  It’s the kind of stuff “barber shop” talk used to be about.</p>
<p>She was either engaged in idle talk or had a short lived goal.  The only &#8220;change&#8221; I&#8217;ve seen is the new format they are now using.</p>
<p>That said, if the AG’s office and others charged with protecting the public can turn a blind eye to all that has been going on at City of Boise over the Public Works mess why would the Statesman want to get their hands dirty?  Better to play it safe than to be sorry…</p>
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		By: No Hard ?'s on H&#38;W		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/06/04/mainstream-media-easy-on-city/#comment-7219</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[James --- you are correct on the Health and Welfare&#039;s new director. The MSM will not ask hard questions about the new director OR Blue Cross. They have no memory past the press releases they get handed weekly by former reporters turned “Information Officers.”  Ask hard questions and you will not get hired when there is a job available.

Just do a Sunshine Report and look at what Blue Cross of Idaho &quot;donated&quot; to political candidates.  That will tell you one story.

The other story is that Blue Cross wants the State health insurance business in the worst way -mostly to devastate Blue Shield but to also add more to their income and paychecks.

Blue Cross is known to hire (and bail out) former public officials and give them positions with hefty salaries. They hired Drew Forney – former Dept Of Insurance Director (after a stumble and while wife Paula was a leading member of the City Council – Blue Cross now has the City insurance), Tracy Andrus - after she lost the mayor&#039;s race (hoping to get the State of Idaho business through her dad Cecil……She is now married to one the executives at Blue Cross), and Jerry Evans - former Super. of Public Instruction, after he &quot;retired&quot; but was a board members he was hired to manage the Blue Cross State of Idaho school insurance business. Just three examples.

Then there was the trip to the SLC Olympics for Coles paid for by Blue Cross which raised allot of questions.

Seems payback works both ways.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James &#8212; you are correct on the Health and Welfare&#8217;s new director. The MSM will not ask hard questions about the new director OR Blue Cross. They have no memory past the press releases they get handed weekly by former reporters turned “Information Officers.”  Ask hard questions and you will not get hired when there is a job available.</p>
<p>Just do a Sunshine Report and look at what Blue Cross of Idaho &#8220;donated&#8221; to political candidates.  That will tell you one story.</p>
<p>The other story is that Blue Cross wants the State health insurance business in the worst way -mostly to devastate Blue Shield but to also add more to their income and paychecks.</p>
<p>Blue Cross is known to hire (and bail out) former public officials and give them positions with hefty salaries. They hired Drew Forney – former Dept Of Insurance Director (after a stumble and while wife Paula was a leading member of the City Council – Blue Cross now has the City insurance), Tracy Andrus &#8211; after she lost the mayor&#8217;s race (hoping to get the State of Idaho business through her dad Cecil……She is now married to one the executives at Blue Cross), and Jerry Evans &#8211; former Super. of Public Instruction, after he &#8220;retired&#8221; but was a board members he was hired to manage the Blue Cross State of Idaho school insurance business. Just three examples.</p>
<p>Then there was the trip to the SLC Olympics for Coles paid for by Blue Cross which raised allot of questions.</p>
<p>Seems payback works both ways.</p>
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		By: No Hard ?'s on H&#38;W		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/06/04/mainstream-media-easy-on-city/#comment-4977</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[James --- you are correct on the Health and Welfare&#039;s new director. The MSM will not ask hard questions about the new director OR Blue Cross. They have no memory past the press releases they get handed weekly by former reporters turned “Information Officers.”  Ask hard questions and you will not get hired when there is a job available.

Just do a Sunshine Report and look at what Blue Cross of Idaho &quot;donated&quot; to political candidates.  That will tell you one story.

The other story is that Blue Cross wants the State health insurance business in the worst way -mostly to devastate Blue Shield but to also add more to their income and paychecks.

Blue Cross is known to hire (and bail out) former public officials and give them positions with hefty salaries. They hired Drew Forney – former Dept Of Insurance Director (after a stumble and while wife Paula was a leading member of the City Council – Blue Cross now has the City insurance), Tracy Andrus - after she lost the mayor&#039;s race (hoping to get the State of Idaho business through her dad Cecil……She is now married to one the executives at Blue Cross), and Jerry Evans - former Super. of Public Instruction, after he &quot;retired&quot; but was a board members he was hired to manage the Blue Cross State of Idaho school insurance business. Just three examples.

Then there was the trip to the SLC Olympics for Coles paid for by Blue Cross which raised allot of questions.

Seems payback works both ways.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James &#8212; you are correct on the Health and Welfare&#8217;s new director. The MSM will not ask hard questions about the new director OR Blue Cross. They have no memory past the press releases they get handed weekly by former reporters turned “Information Officers.”  Ask hard questions and you will not get hired when there is a job available.</p>
<p>Just do a Sunshine Report and look at what Blue Cross of Idaho &#8220;donated&#8221; to political candidates.  That will tell you one story.</p>
<p>The other story is that Blue Cross wants the State health insurance business in the worst way -mostly to devastate Blue Shield but to also add more to their income and paychecks.</p>
<p>Blue Cross is known to hire (and bail out) former public officials and give them positions with hefty salaries. They hired Drew Forney – former Dept Of Insurance Director (after a stumble and while wife Paula was a leading member of the City Council – Blue Cross now has the City insurance), Tracy Andrus &#8211; after she lost the mayor&#8217;s race (hoping to get the State of Idaho business through her dad Cecil……She is now married to one the executives at Blue Cross), and Jerry Evans &#8211; former Super. of Public Instruction, after he &#8220;retired&#8221; but was a board members he was hired to manage the Blue Cross State of Idaho school insurance business. Just three examples.</p>
<p>Then there was the trip to the SLC Olympics for Coles paid for by Blue Cross which raised allot of questions.</p>
<p>Seems payback works both ways.</p>
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		By: No Hard ?'s on H&#38;W		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/06/04/mainstream-media-easy-on-city/#comment-2846</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[James --- you are correct on the Health and Welfare&#039;s new director. The MSM will not ask hard questions about the new director OR Blue Cross. They have no memory past the press releases they get handed weekly by former reporters turned “Information Officers.”  Ask hard questions and you will not get hired when there is a job available.

Just do a Sunshine Report and look at what Blue Cross of Idaho &quot;donated&quot; to political candidates.  That will tell you one story.

The other story is that Blue Cross wants the State health insurance business in the worst way -mostly to devastate Blue Shield but to also add more to their income and paychecks.

Blue Cross is known to hire (and bail out) former public officials and give them positions with hefty salaries. They hired Drew Forney – former Dept Of Insurance Director (after a stumble and while wife Paula was a leading member of the City Council – Blue Cross now has the City insurance), Tracy Andrus - after she lost the mayor&#039;s race (hoping to get the State of Idaho business through her dad Cecil……She is now married to one the executives at Blue Cross), and Jerry Evans - former Super. of Public Instruction, after he &quot;retired&quot; but was a board members he was hired to manage the Blue Cross State of Idaho school insurance business. Just three examples.

Then there was the trip to the SLC Olympics for Coles paid for by Blue Cross which raised allot of questions.

Seems payback works both ways.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James &#8212; you are correct on the Health and Welfare&#8217;s new director. The MSM will not ask hard questions about the new director OR Blue Cross. They have no memory past the press releases they get handed weekly by former reporters turned “Information Officers.”  Ask hard questions and you will not get hired when there is a job available.</p>
<p>Just do a Sunshine Report and look at what Blue Cross of Idaho &#8220;donated&#8221; to political candidates.  That will tell you one story.</p>
<p>The other story is that Blue Cross wants the State health insurance business in the worst way -mostly to devastate Blue Shield but to also add more to their income and paychecks.</p>
<p>Blue Cross is known to hire (and bail out) former public officials and give them positions with hefty salaries. They hired Drew Forney – former Dept Of Insurance Director (after a stumble and while wife Paula was a leading member of the City Council – Blue Cross now has the City insurance), Tracy Andrus &#8211; after she lost the mayor&#8217;s race (hoping to get the State of Idaho business through her dad Cecil……She is now married to one the executives at Blue Cross), and Jerry Evans &#8211; former Super. of Public Instruction, after he &#8220;retired&#8221; but was a board members he was hired to manage the Blue Cross State of Idaho school insurance business. Just three examples.</p>
<p>Then there was the trip to the SLC Olympics for Coles paid for by Blue Cross which raised allot of questions.</p>
<p>Seems payback works both ways.</p>
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		By: No Hard ?'s on H&#38;W		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/06/04/mainstream-media-easy-on-city/#comment-1785</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[James --- you are correct on the Health and Welfare&#039;s new director. The MSM will not ask hard questions about the new director OR Blue Cross. They have no memory past the press releases they get handed weekly by former reporters turned “Information Officers.”  Ask hard questions and you will not get hired when there is a job available.

Just do a Sunshine Report and look at what Blue Cross of Idaho &quot;donated&quot; to political candidates.  That will tell you one story.

The other story is that Blue Cross wants the State health insurance business in the worst way -mostly to devastate Blue Shield but to also add more to their income and paychecks.

Blue Cross is known to hire (and bail out) former public officials and give them positions with hefty salaries. They hired Drew Forney – former Dept Of Insurance Director (after a stumble and while wife Paula was a leading member of the City Council – Blue Cross now has the City insurance), Tracy Andrus - after she lost the mayor&#039;s race (hoping to get the State of Idaho business through her dad Cecil……She is now married to one the executives at Blue Cross), and Jerry Evans - former Super. of Public Instruction, after he &quot;retired&quot; but was a board members he was hired to manage the Blue Cross State of Idaho school insurance business. Just three examples.

Then there was the trip to the SLC Olympics for Coles paid for by Blue Cross which raised allot of questions.

Seems payback works both ways.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James &#8212; you are correct on the Health and Welfare&#8217;s new director. The MSM will not ask hard questions about the new director OR Blue Cross. They have no memory past the press releases they get handed weekly by former reporters turned “Information Officers.”  Ask hard questions and you will not get hired when there is a job available.</p>
<p>Just do a Sunshine Report and look at what Blue Cross of Idaho &#8220;donated&#8221; to political candidates.  That will tell you one story.</p>
<p>The other story is that Blue Cross wants the State health insurance business in the worst way -mostly to devastate Blue Shield but to also add more to their income and paychecks.</p>
<p>Blue Cross is known to hire (and bail out) former public officials and give them positions with hefty salaries. They hired Drew Forney – former Dept Of Insurance Director (after a stumble and while wife Paula was a leading member of the City Council – Blue Cross now has the City insurance), Tracy Andrus &#8211; after she lost the mayor&#8217;s race (hoping to get the State of Idaho business through her dad Cecil……She is now married to one the executives at Blue Cross), and Jerry Evans &#8211; former Super. of Public Instruction, after he &#8220;retired&#8221; but was a board members he was hired to manage the Blue Cross State of Idaho school insurance business. Just three examples.</p>
<p>Then there was the trip to the SLC Olympics for Coles paid for by Blue Cross which raised allot of questions.</p>
<p>Seems payback works both ways.</p>
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		By: Boise Citizen		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/06/04/mainstream-media-easy-on-city/#comment-1784</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 23:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The below was taken from last Sunday’s Statesman; it is political rhetoric at its best.  If the city was going to do anything more with its employees, they would done something by now.  Businesses have nothing to fear, the city isn’t going to be stupid enough to do anything with them other than maybe inform them of the city’s purchasing policies.  The last thing the city wants is a law suit or any more bad press.  What the city told the Statesman was nothing but empty “tough talk” for the public, using the Statesman as the messenger.

If city council was truly interested in getting to the bottom of this, they would have been asking those kinds of questions long ago.  I am sure they’ve been asking questions, but not heard from anyone they expect to get a different answer from.

Don&#039;t hold your breath waiting for the city to do anything more and the only thing mainstream media is good for is providing messenger services.

This has been a learning experience for many...

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“But city officials also say there might be more consequences, including possible personnel action against additional city employees and sanctions against businesses that sold or rented equipment to the farm and helped employees violate city policies.”



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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The below was taken from last Sunday’s Statesman; it is political rhetoric at its best.  If the city was going to do anything more with its employees, they would done something by now.  Businesses have nothing to fear, the city isn’t going to be stupid enough to do anything with them other than maybe inform them of the city’s purchasing policies.  The last thing the city wants is a law suit or any more bad press.  What the city told the Statesman was nothing but empty “tough talk” for the public, using the Statesman as the messenger.</p>
<p>If city council was truly interested in getting to the bottom of this, they would have been asking those kinds of questions long ago.  I am sure they’ve been asking questions, but not heard from anyone they expect to get a different answer from.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t hold your breath waiting for the city to do anything more and the only thing mainstream media is good for is providing messenger services.</p>
<p>This has been a learning experience for many&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>“But city officials also say there might be more consequences, including possible personnel action against additional city employees and sanctions against businesses that sold or rented equipment to the farm and helped employees violate city policies.”</p>
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		By: Daily Reader		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 01:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;t Forget -

Interesting comment you posted...  Either you just tuned in, are naive as hell or have something in particular in mind.

Narrowing it down, it couldn’t possibly be the farm issue, except for the mayor and a few of his supporting staff members being in denial, that one is pretty much out in the open now.  The Public Works tool issue at the plants was proven to be true, so the only thing left would be the two moon lighting managers at the treatment plants who were double dipping at the tax payer’s expense (did I miss anything?).

What are the odds of that being wrong?  I would be willing to bet those two managers are doing exactly what the employees say they are and then some.  I bet they still are…

The bigger issue here is that all the reported Public Works problems to date have been under the same management with much of it going on for years on end.

Believe whatever you want, but as far as I can tell this Blog has been right on.

If you have information that shows otherwise, come out with it…

- Daily Reader



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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t Forget &#8211;</p>
<p>Interesting comment you posted&#8230;  Either you just tuned in, are naive as hell or have something in particular in mind.</p>
<p>Narrowing it down, it couldn’t possibly be the farm issue, except for the mayor and a few of his supporting staff members being in denial, that one is pretty much out in the open now.  The Public Works tool issue at the plants was proven to be true, so the only thing left would be the two moon lighting managers at the treatment plants who were double dipping at the tax payer’s expense (did I miss anything?).</p>
<p>What are the odds of that being wrong?  I would be willing to bet those two managers are doing exactly what the employees say they are and then some.  I bet they still are…</p>
<p>The bigger issue here is that all the reported Public Works problems to date have been under the same management with much of it going on for years on end.</p>
<p>Believe whatever you want, but as far as I can tell this Blog has been right on.</p>
<p>If you have information that shows otherwise, come out with it…</p>
<p>&#8211; Daily Reader</p>
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		By: Joe moran		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 22:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks,Guardian, for informing the public of the ongoing attempts in city and county govt. to cover their own corruption. The &quot; statesman&quot; and all local TV channels should be ashamed at their refusal to investigate this issue from the beginning! All I can say is what a bunch of well paid &quot; good old boy Clowns.&quot;
The City needs a full time auditor and Team Bieter and council knows it.. Let&#039;s start representing the People, Mayor Bieter and council and make sure we have an auditor ASAP!!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks,Guardian, for informing the public of the ongoing attempts in city and county govt. to cover their own corruption. The &#8221; statesman&#8221; and all local TV channels should be ashamed at their refusal to investigate this issue from the beginning! All I can say is what a bunch of well paid &#8221; good old boy Clowns.&#8221;<br />
The City needs a full time auditor and Team Bieter and council knows it.. Let&#8217;s start representing the People, Mayor Bieter and council and make sure we have an auditor ASAP!!</p>
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		By: James		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/06/04/mainstream-media-easy-on-city/#comment-1781</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 21:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How about MSM going easy on Risch for his change of leadership with H&amp;W? I just saw the story on KTVB. I got the impression they didn&#039;t press the new Gov too strongly to find out what was going on.
My cynical side says political payback.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about MSM going easy on Risch for his change of leadership with H&#038;W? I just saw the story on KTVB. I got the impression they didn&#8217;t press the new Gov too strongly to find out what was going on.<br />
My cynical side says political payback.</p>
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