After reading some of the employees comments, I was thinking they had to be confused or at least not correctly informed, but after reading what you (Dave) just wrote about the farm subsidy going to city hall I am totally confused. None if this is making sense.

Enterprise, General funds and now this subsidy money showing up downtown. Can you break it down to something we can all understand?

EDITOR NOTE–Can’t really help. It appears there is no clear understanding of who gets the subsidy. Bottom line: it is indeed confusing.

The way I understand the use of interest money taken from Enterprise money doesn’t have as much to do with “profits” as it does with money in the bank. They put the Enterprise money in the bank and play with the interest money.

However, more money in the bank means they have more interest money to play with. In that way you are correct, it has become very important that the farm make a profit.

The more profits they make, the more they can offset the cost of operating the sewer plants and of course the more interest money they have to play with the more good things they can do for us all. WE ALL WIN.

I am not sure what this Federal subsidy thing is about.

EDITOR NOTE–As the GUARDIAN understands it, the subsidy–at least the most recent one–went “DOWNTOWN.” It is really a small thing, but points out the lack of financial understanding.

Meanwhile, if the Fed’s are involved with subsidizing the farm whose profits are subsidizing other city needs, it gets interesting. Makes a person wonder what will surface next.

One way the two can meet is by taking the profits made with Enterprise money (i.e., from the farm, airport, etc,.) and skimming off the interest made for various General fund use.

The farm as a profit maker, not simply as a means to offset the cost of processing wastewater has taken on a whole different meaning within the city. This is maybe some of the reasons for the decisions management made in recent past. General funds have and do directly benefit from profits made with Enterprise money and the farm has become a good revenue source.

If it turns out that the city is also getting federal aid for the farm, then that tax money is going directly towards the profits of the farm, thus supporting the city’s General fund in an indirect way. I don’t know how legal any of that is, but I do question how ethical it is….

How is it a government not-for-profit biosoids farm funded by the public gets federal government farm subsidies? How many different times, how many different ways do we the people pay for this mess?

As I understood it, this not-for-profit government farm is actually making money (working in the black). Are they reporting actual farming results or a bunch of behind the scene publicly funded aid?

What is wrong with this picture?

About the price of a farm tractor.

USDA subsidy information for City Of Boise % Public Works Dept
Kuna, ID 83634

http://www.ewg.org/farm/persondetail.php?custnumber=009876913&summlevel=address

EDITOR NOTE– Not sure what this is. There are apparently many subsidy programs.

However, it would be much better if the fed’s where to get involved and got something done, especially since what some want to label as just “poor management” actually has a nasty element of government criminal activity to it.

Of course the other options are still open…

The parade of Poop Farm players:
If memory serves, Robert Nichols of Kuna is a former lessee of numerous fields at the Poop Farm. Somewhere along the line the City and Nichols had a disagreement about the lease terms and Mr. Nichols sued the city–and records will show he won. He is currently doing custom farming, chopping silage on behalf of the local dairies who are the buyers of the crops from the poop farm.

Carl V. Nicholson of Kuna is also a former lessee of numerous fields at the Poop Farm in addition to being a former owner of some of the property. Mr. Nicholson and Mr. Nichols at one time had a violent disagreement about farming practices at the Poop Farm which culminated in wrecked trucks and brandishing firearms.

CCT Land & Cattle of Meridian is another former lessee of numerous fields at the Poop Farm and currently a principal from CCT is leasing land at the Poop Farm as a principal of TFI .

James D. Patterson of Boise has done custom harvesting work at the poop farm as well.

Big D Ranch of Meridian is the local grainery and as such has been the broker of some of the small grains grown at the farm at various times.

EDITOR NOTE–A name change is in order. How about WELFARE ACRES?