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		By: CYCLOPS		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/09/01/is-it-rape-or-consensual/#comment-2545</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[I am very sorry to hear that dh. I hate to be the one to tell you but &quot;the old good Idaho&quot; is already dead. Relatively speaking, we need to deal with the Idaho we have, not moan about the Idaho that used to be. We sure would like your help, but if you are that disheartened, I wish you well in South Dakota
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very sorry to hear that dh. I hate to be the one to tell you but &#8220;the old good Idaho&#8221; is already dead. Relatively speaking, we need to deal with the Idaho we have, not moan about the Idaho that used to be. We sure would like your help, but if you are that disheartened, I wish you well in South Dakota</p>
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		By: dh		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/09/01/is-it-rape-or-consensual/#comment-2544</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 12:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great comments.  I agree with many of them.

Relatively speaking, murder usually is a terrible thing.  Therefore, relatively speaking, rape isn&#039;t so bad.  And since armed robbery isn&#039;t as invasive as murder or rape, perhaps we should legalize and condone robbery . . . Perhaps I&#039;ll just hang out in downtown Caldwell, looking like another lemming, until I get mugged.  Then I can say, &quot;Wow, that wasn&#039;t too bad.  I&#039;ll bet in South L.A. they would have shot me in the head!&quot;

This Hoku &quot;deal&quot; is just one more of the &quot;smart growth&quot; issues that too many people want to see continue.  They would like to help pay for shenanigans like it until Idaho has experienced its last, gasping, raspy, pollution filled breath.  At that point, even with the oft touted &quot;relativity&quot; statements about southern Idaho &quot;still&quot; being &quot;better&quot; than other western metro areas, the old, &quot;good&quot; Idaho will be officially dead.

Negative growth for the foreseeable future?  Sounds damn good to me.  Although I feel like a silent partner in them, I have bought my last Buck knife, HP printer and Micron product.  I have NO plans to visit Cabella’s state subsidized endeavor.  South Dakota really is sounding better every day.  Don&#039;t know how they feel about old Idahoans but I may have to find out. . . There certainly isn&#039;t much to recommend staying in this area anymore.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comments.  I agree with many of them.</p>
<p>Relatively speaking, murder usually is a terrible thing.  Therefore, relatively speaking, rape isn&#8217;t so bad.  And since armed robbery isn&#8217;t as invasive as murder or rape, perhaps we should legalize and condone robbery . . . Perhaps I&#8217;ll just hang out in downtown Caldwell, looking like another lemming, until I get mugged.  Then I can say, &#8220;Wow, that wasn&#8217;t too bad.  I&#8217;ll bet in South L.A. they would have shot me in the head!&#8221;</p>
<p>This Hoku &#8220;deal&#8221; is just one more of the &#8220;smart growth&#8221; issues that too many people want to see continue.  They would like to help pay for shenanigans like it until Idaho has experienced its last, gasping, raspy, pollution filled breath.  At that point, even with the oft touted &#8220;relativity&#8221; statements about southern Idaho &#8220;still&#8221; being &#8220;better&#8221; than other western metro areas, the old, &#8220;good&#8221; Idaho will be officially dead.</p>
<p>Negative growth for the foreseeable future?  Sounds damn good to me.  Although I feel like a silent partner in them, I have bought my last Buck knife, HP printer and Micron product.  I have NO plans to visit Cabella’s state subsidized endeavor.  South Dakota really is sounding better every day.  Don&#8217;t know how they feel about old Idahoans but I may have to find out. . . There certainly isn&#8217;t much to recommend staying in this area anymore.</p>
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		By: j		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/09/01/is-it-rape-or-consensual/#comment-2543</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 10:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with Cyclops, but we need to wise up.  If you think the bad air will go away with the fire season think again.  www.deq.state.id.us  I wonder if the bad air is drifting all the way to SD?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Cyclops, but we need to wise up.  If you think the bad air will go away with the fire season think again.  <a href="http://www.deq.state.id.us" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.deq.state.id.us</a>  I wonder if the bad air is drifting all the way to SD?</p>
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		By: CYCLOPS		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/09/01/is-it-rape-or-consensual/#comment-2542</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 01:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Happy to Mojo.
If you are dealing with growth, there are only two options. Growth either expands or it shrinks. It is impossible to put in a &quot;holding pattern&quot;.  The reason I moved here 35 years ago is because this was the best place to raise a family.  Land was affordable, jobs were plentiful, the people were pleasant and crime was low. Interestingly enough, compared to the large cities most of us came from, by comparison, it still is.

We all moan about the traffic, the crime, the social problems, and our idiotic officials.
With the exception of the idiots,( I have to concede that one), all you have to do is go to one of our larger western cities for a couple of days. You will be more than happy to come back and deal with &quot;our&quot; problems.

My point is that if we think we can stop this train named Boise, we are being delusional. The very best we can hope for is to guide the inevitable monster called growth. After all, the only difference between those of us that have been here more than 20 years and those recent immigrants is they are late.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy to Mojo.<br />
If you are dealing with growth, there are only two options. Growth either expands or it shrinks. It is impossible to put in a &#8220;holding pattern&#8221;.  The reason I moved here 35 years ago is because this was the best place to raise a family.  Land was affordable, jobs were plentiful, the people were pleasant and crime was low. Interestingly enough, compared to the large cities most of us came from, by comparison, it still is.</p>
<p>We all moan about the traffic, the crime, the social problems, and our idiotic officials.<br />
With the exception of the idiots,( I have to concede that one), all you have to do is go to one of our larger western cities for a couple of days. You will be more than happy to come back and deal with &#8220;our&#8221; problems.</p>
<p>My point is that if we think we can stop this train named Boise, we are being delusional. The very best we can hope for is to guide the inevitable monster called growth. After all, the only difference between those of us that have been here more than 20 years and those recent immigrants is they are late.</p>
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		By: mojo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[CYCLOPS - I don&#039;t understand your comment. Please expand ...
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CYCLOPS &#8211; I don&#8217;t understand your comment. Please expand &#8230;</p>
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		By: CYCLOPS		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/09/01/is-it-rape-or-consensual/#comment-2540</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 03:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Geeeze Guys. Sounds like you all won&#039;t be happy until we all freeze to death in the dark!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geeeze Guys. Sounds like you all won&#8217;t be happy until we all freeze to death in the dark!</p>
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		By: j		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/09/01/is-it-rape-or-consensual/#comment-2539</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 02:30:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The onwers of defunct Aluminum plants figure it&#039;s cheaper to put a fence around them  than do a clean up prior to a sale.  Some of those plants were turning out product during WWII when the only rule was maximum production!!  Military, Mining, and RailRoads do the same thing with their previous messy sights.  Wait about 50 years and most of the nasties are gone.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The onwers of defunct Aluminum plants figure it&#8217;s cheaper to put a fence around them  than do a clean up prior to a sale.  Some of those plants were turning out product during WWII when the only rule was maximum production!!  Military, Mining, and RailRoads do the same thing with their previous messy sights.  Wait about 50 years and most of the nasties are gone.</p>
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		By: john		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 21:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wonder why they didn&#039;t consider locations on the Columbia in some of the defunct aluminum plants that located there for the same reason. Cheap Bonneville power and water.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder why they didn&#8217;t consider locations on the Columbia in some of the defunct aluminum plants that located there for the same reason. Cheap Bonneville power and water.</p>
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		By: david Zarkin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 09:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Keep on speaking up for the environment.  I agree with previous comment about locating near the river.  Very suspicious and reminds me of articles I did on sugar beet processors polluting rivers in the 60s when I was a reporter at The Statesman.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep on speaking up for the environment.  I agree with previous comment about locating near the river.  Very suspicious and reminds me of articles I did on sugar beet processors polluting rivers in the 60s when I was a reporter at The Statesman.</p>
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		By: whidit		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2006 02:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Let me work on a guess as to why the plant has to by the river. It was glaring that state&#039;s water agreement wasn&#039;t explained. I would still like to see that. But it is unlikely to be the driver. A polysilicon plant uses water but not huge amounts like a fab (Micron).  The plant that Hoku plans to build is more like an ore refinery than a fab. The ore is melted by an electric arc process. It will take huge amounts of power. I suspect that its needs are large enough that the costs of transmitting the power over any distance will be costly. They will be building the plant adjacent to the river at the site of a hydro dam. There are three groups of the on the Snake: CJ Strike / Swan Falls near Kuna, Shoshone / Salmon Falls near Twin, and American Falls in American Falls. There is a fourth, Hells Canyon, but it is too far from a population center to staff the new plant.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me work on a guess as to why the plant has to by the river. It was glaring that state&#8217;s water agreement wasn&#8217;t explained. I would still like to see that. But it is unlikely to be the driver. A polysilicon plant uses water but not huge amounts like a fab (Micron).  The plant that Hoku plans to build is more like an ore refinery than a fab. The ore is melted by an electric arc process. It will take huge amounts of power. I suspect that its needs are large enough that the costs of transmitting the power over any distance will be costly. They will be building the plant adjacent to the river at the site of a hydro dam. There are three groups of the on the Snake: CJ Strike / Swan Falls near Kuna, Shoshone / Salmon Falls near Twin, and American Falls in American Falls. There is a fourth, Hells Canyon, but it is too far from a population center to staff the new plant.</p>
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