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		By: Snoop		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/09/06/growth-triumphs-over-good/#comment-2572</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 12:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think you guys are very quick to forget what has kept our economy afloat the last few years. It certainly wasn’t the Albertsons or Microns. Most of you, unlike myself, are probably transplants to Idaho. It always makes me laugh to see people move here, get settled in (by get settled in I mean change their license plate over), then say “yeah, we don’t want anymore growth, keep em’ out.”

You also may forget the 80’s when interest rates were pushing 20% and our economy was stagnant. You want new jobs with higher wages, but no growth. You want more parks and recreation areas, but no growth. You want community colleges and better police, fire, and health coverage, but no growth. You may also want better schools, roads, and oh yeah lower taxes, but no growth. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but guess what? In order to get these things we need, yep that terrible word, GROWTH!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you guys are very quick to forget what has kept our economy afloat the last few years. It certainly wasn’t the Albertsons or Microns. Most of you, unlike myself, are probably transplants to Idaho. It always makes me laugh to see people move here, get settled in (by get settled in I mean change their license plate over), then say “yeah, we don’t want anymore growth, keep em’ out.”</p>
<p>You also may forget the 80’s when interest rates were pushing 20% and our economy was stagnant. You want new jobs with higher wages, but no growth. You want more parks and recreation areas, but no growth. You want community colleges and better police, fire, and health coverage, but no growth. You may also want better schools, roads, and oh yeah lower taxes, but no growth. I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but guess what? In order to get these things we need, yep that terrible word, GROWTH!</p>
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		By: john		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 23:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If Edward Abbey were alive today I think he would agree that fastest growing thing is fat cells. There are more fat people than people with cancer and the death is slower. Death from fat manifests itself in many more ways than cancer.

Here in Idaho you can add stupid too. Somewhere I saw a sign that said &quot;Stupid kills&quot;.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Edward Abbey were alive today I think he would agree that fastest growing thing is fat cells. There are more fat people than people with cancer and the death is slower. Death from fat manifests itself in many more ways than cancer.</p>
<p>Here in Idaho you can add stupid too. Somewhere I saw a sign that said &#8220;Stupid kills&#8221;.</p>
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		By: mojo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 05:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey, dh, those tail lights were not them leaving Idaho, they were just going back to tell more friends to come to idaho.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, dh, those tail lights were not them leaving Idaho, they were just going back to tell more friends to come to idaho.</p>
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		By: dh		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/09/06/growth-triumphs-over-good/#comment-2569</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 14:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The old Idaho is not COMPLETELY dead yet.  She still lives on in small, isolated pockets, infrequent polite interactions, and in the hearts of her native sons and daughters.  She has not quite rasped her last pollution choked breath just yet.  BUT, she IS very, very ill from the effects of legal and illegal immigration, smart, dumb, malignant, subsidized, controlled, uncontrolled, growth and the government sponsored rape of her lands.

Growthaholics are wetting themselves with glee but scared witless that they may not be able to maintain the insane, self-immolating, pace of this growth.  At our expense we have allowed them to turn our economy into a house of cards built on a spit of sand in the windblown flood plane.

Because we are so far down the commode on our way to becoming northern California, the Mud Lake solution would probably be frowned upon. . . Since the “growth” has propagated far beyond  simple surgery, I suggest the following much needed radiation and chemotherapy to improve  Idaho’s prognosis and perhaps foment remission,
Support/Force immigration law enforcement to remove and prevent more Illegal Aliens--Prosecute everyone who hires illegals--Raise the prime interest rate even more--Shop selectively and support real Idahoan’s endeavors-- Abolish our tax funded pimp agencies--Elect responsible candidates who want to conserve what we have left-- Force elected officials and their appointed commissions to conduct their bribery and collusion with developers and industry in public venues-- Stop ALL subsidies and tax breaks for new business and developments--Establish realistic impact fees for ALL new construction—Tax business, utilities, and manufacturing endeavors at the same rate as residential property owners--Enact and Enforce California style environmental laws for livestock and manufacturing entities.

I remember the taillights of thousands of U-haul trailers headed south and west during the remission of the seventies.  What a beautiful sight!

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The old Idaho is not COMPLETELY dead yet.  She still lives on in small, isolated pockets, infrequent polite interactions, and in the hearts of her native sons and daughters.  She has not quite rasped her last pollution choked breath just yet.  BUT, she IS very, very ill from the effects of legal and illegal immigration, smart, dumb, malignant, subsidized, controlled, uncontrolled, growth and the government sponsored rape of her lands.</p>
<p>Growthaholics are wetting themselves with glee but scared witless that they may not be able to maintain the insane, self-immolating, pace of this growth.  At our expense we have allowed them to turn our economy into a house of cards built on a spit of sand in the windblown flood plane.</p>
<p>Because we are so far down the commode on our way to becoming northern California, the Mud Lake solution would probably be frowned upon. . . Since the “growth” has propagated far beyond  simple surgery, I suggest the following much needed radiation and chemotherapy to improve  Idaho’s prognosis and perhaps foment remission,<br />
Support/Force immigration law enforcement to remove and prevent more Illegal Aliens&#8211;Prosecute everyone who hires illegals&#8211;Raise the prime interest rate even more&#8211;Shop selectively and support real Idahoan’s endeavors&#8211; Abolish our tax funded pimp agencies&#8211;Elect responsible candidates who want to conserve what we have left&#8211; Force elected officials and their appointed commissions to conduct their bribery and collusion with developers and industry in public venues&#8211; Stop ALL subsidies and tax breaks for new business and developments&#8211;Establish realistic impact fees for ALL new construction—Tax business, utilities, and manufacturing endeavors at the same rate as residential property owners&#8211;Enact and Enforce California style environmental laws for livestock and manufacturing entities.</p>
<p>I remember the taillights of thousands of U-haul trailers headed south and west during the remission of the seventies.  What a beautiful sight!</p>
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		By: Slim Jim		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 20:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Remember &quot;BUY IDAHO&quot;?

It worked, they (the folks from out side of Idaho) have been doing so as fast as they can.
Where is the state I was born in, where is my Idaho?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember &#8220;BUY IDAHO&#8221;?</p>
<p>It worked, they (the folks from out side of Idaho) have been doing so as fast as they can.<br />
Where is the state I was born in, where is my Idaho?</p>
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		By: Clancy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/09/06/growth-triumphs-over-good/#comment-2567</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 17:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Blueprint will largely be ignored except when the local goverments to banter to each other.  The growthophobe talk sounds like the Democrats and Iraq. More than willing to criticize the current planning /growth without talking about how they would fix it in a realistic way.

The only way we can hold the goverments accountable for planning decision would be to pass Prop 2 allowing property owners to seek recourse for poor planning decisions.  This could be very dangerous and costly for taxpayers as a whole.

What a wicked web we weave.





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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Blueprint will largely be ignored except when the local goverments to banter to each other.  The growthophobe talk sounds like the Democrats and Iraq. More than willing to criticize the current planning /growth without talking about how they would fix it in a realistic way.</p>
<p>The only way we can hold the goverments accountable for planning decision would be to pass Prop 2 allowing property owners to seek recourse for poor planning decisions.  This could be very dangerous and costly for taxpayers as a whole.</p>
<p>What a wicked web we weave.</p>
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		By: Inside City Hall		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/09/06/growth-triumphs-over-good/#comment-2566</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The blueprint &quot;public&quot; input was all very manipulated - to get specific results. Hope no one is surprised.

The Council will use it like they use the Comp plan - as holy writ. Yet neither have the authority of law.

Just more ways to justify already set agendas.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The blueprint &#8220;public&#8221; input was all very manipulated &#8211; to get specific results. Hope no one is surprised.</p>
<p>The Council will use it like they use the Comp plan &#8211; as holy writ. Yet neither have the authority of law.</p>
<p>Just more ways to justify already set agendas.</p>
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		By: dh		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/09/06/growth-triumphs-over-good/#comment-2565</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Our self serving public servants must remain ecstatic in their successful, headlong, rush to become the next Las Vegas or Phoenix.  (At least those areas didn&#039;t give up much farm land.)

All this smoke screen about &quot;Blueprint for Samrt Growth&quot; is quite entertaining.  Some folks have become mesmerized by these antics while the hand(s) we should be watching are adeptly fleecing our  checkbooks.

Guardian:  Where did you come up with the old pictures with blue sky in the back ground?  They must be ancient because, WHEN we CAN see that far, we view the brown SMOG over Eagle and Star  every day .
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our self serving public servants must remain ecstatic in their successful, headlong, rush to become the next Las Vegas or Phoenix.  (At least those areas didn&#8217;t give up much farm land.)</p>
<p>All this smoke screen about &#8220;Blueprint for Samrt Growth&#8221; is quite entertaining.  Some folks have become mesmerized by these antics while the hand(s) we should be watching are adeptly fleecing our  checkbooks.</p>
<p>Guardian:  Where did you come up with the old pictures with blue sky in the back ground?  They must be ancient because, WHEN we CAN see that far, we view the brown SMOG over Eagle and Star  every day .</p>
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		By: j		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/09/06/growth-triumphs-over-good/#comment-2564</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 10:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[www.deq.state.id.us   ahh smell the growth?  I like growth as it is what we do here in America. And if we stop? --See Rome before the dark ages.  But we need to be smart and clean and we are not.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.deq.state.id.us" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.deq.state.id.us</a>   ahh smell the growth?  I like growth as it is what we do here in America. And if we stop? &#8211;See Rome before the dark ages.  But we need to be smart and clean and we are not.</p>
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		By: Gordon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 04:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Funny how every time they do one of these plans, they think it will work. Actually, it does -- for about five minutes. Then somebody with a bagful of bucks shows up and wants to do something that violates the plan and, voila!, the plan changes and/or disappears in a puff of (cigar?) smoke.

Of course, I&#039;m a newcomer to this area -- only been here about 40 years, but in that 40 years I&#039;ve seen and heard about more damned &quot;comprhensive plans, &quot;smart-growth&quot; (now there&#039;s an oxymoron for you from the morons) plans, etc., than Curtis Road has wrecks, and every one of them fizzled. Of course, that&#039;s why they keep making new ones, cuz the old ones disintegrated. And yet they keep telling us the new one would work.

And, as MudRat and Edward Abbey observed ...
Yep, the fastest-growing thing in the human (or other animal) body is cancer -- and we all know about its effects.

The fastest-growing thing outside said bodies is government at all levels. And the difference is difficult to discern.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how every time they do one of these plans, they think it will work. Actually, it does &#8212; for about five minutes. Then somebody with a bagful of bucks shows up and wants to do something that violates the plan and, voila!, the plan changes and/or disappears in a puff of (cigar?) smoke.</p>
<p>Of course, I&#8217;m a newcomer to this area &#8212; only been here about 40 years, but in that 40 years I&#8217;ve seen and heard about more damned &#8220;comprhensive plans, &#8220;smart-growth&#8221; (now there&#8217;s an oxymoron for you from the morons) plans, etc., than Curtis Road has wrecks, and every one of them fizzled. Of course, that&#8217;s why they keep making new ones, cuz the old ones disintegrated. And yet they keep telling us the new one would work.</p>
<p>And, as MudRat and Edward Abbey observed &#8230;<br />
Yep, the fastest-growing thing in the human (or other animal) body is cancer &#8212; and we all know about its effects.</p>
<p>The fastest-growing thing outside said bodies is government at all levels. And the difference is difficult to discern.</p>
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