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		By: Razzbar		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/09/12/iraq-war-solution/#comment-2654</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[I wonder how long it took the representatives of war profiteers, AKA the &quot;current administration&quot; to recognize the Sept.11 attacks for what they have become -- a BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY!

It ain&#039;t -just- oil. There&#039;s all kinds of money to be made over there. Especially since Cheney as secretary of defense drastically downsized the military, creating all kinds of opportunities for profit minded contractors, who are ripping the country off with impunity, and all too often at the peril of our troops.

I am baffled as to why there is so little outrage at all this profiteering, and outraged at how some companies are getting off the hook with the flimsiest of excuses (e.g. &quot;The contract didn&#039;t specify that the trucks had to work&quot;).

If congress put half the energy into investigating this ongoing ripoff as it gave to a stained blue dress, there would quite a few of Bush, Cheney and co.&#039;s friends in prison now.

If treason defined as waging war agains the US or giving aid and comfort to its enemies, what do you call it when you -use- the US to wage war, for private gain?

I&#039;d still call it treason.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how long it took the representatives of war profiteers, AKA the &#8220;current administration&#8221; to recognize the Sept.11 attacks for what they have become &#8212; a BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY!</p>
<p>It ain&#8217;t -just- oil. There&#8217;s all kinds of money to be made over there. Especially since Cheney as secretary of defense drastically downsized the military, creating all kinds of opportunities for profit minded contractors, who are ripping the country off with impunity, and all too often at the peril of our troops.</p>
<p>I am baffled as to why there is so little outrage at all this profiteering, and outraged at how some companies are getting off the hook with the flimsiest of excuses (e.g. &#8220;The contract didn&#8217;t specify that the trucks had to work&#8221;).</p>
<p>If congress put half the energy into investigating this ongoing ripoff as it gave to a stained blue dress, there would quite a few of Bush, Cheney and co.&#8217;s friends in prison now.</p>
<p>If treason defined as waging war agains the US or giving aid and comfort to its enemies, what do you call it when you -use- the US to wage war, for private gain?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d still call it treason.</p>
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		By: Sisyphus		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 14:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Amen John and Joe.  And I submit that it is a local issue.  We recognize we are in the handbasket and we know where its headed.  Its up to each of us to point out how we all participate in making a global footprint and we should set the example for changing our nefarious ways.  Nobody&#039;s perfect, I&#039;ve taken one of the online quizzes and my score is way too high, but I recycle, ride my bike most days and resist the urge to consume.  The worst thing we can allow is cynicism resulting in apathy whether its in your personal habits or in politics.

Oh and did you see the cartoon on the last page of the Scene section of the daily.  Particularly appropriate to this post.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen John and Joe.  And I submit that it is a local issue.  We recognize we are in the handbasket and we know where its headed.  Its up to each of us to point out how we all participate in making a global footprint and we should set the example for changing our nefarious ways.  Nobody&#8217;s perfect, I&#8217;ve taken one of the online quizzes and my score is way too high, but I recycle, ride my bike most days and resist the urge to consume.  The worst thing we can allow is cynicism resulting in apathy whether its in your personal habits or in politics.</p>
<p>Oh and did you see the cartoon on the last page of the Scene section of the daily.  Particularly appropriate to this post.</p>
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		By: Clancy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/09/12/iraq-war-solution/#comment-2652</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sis,  I did not say who that increase would go to.  I think the goverment may be good but they have been shown waste a little money now and then.  The big oil companies could be suited under goverment regulation as they are in the business of energy.  Many are already working on alternatives to oil and they have the distribution networks.  I would prefer Honda because they have a Hydrogen car/home power generation station coming to our shores in 3 years.

There is a book hitting the shelves today, Internal Combustion by Edwin Black.  He explores all the myths and realities of oil and energy.  He explains what happens with low oil prices.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sis,  I did not say who that increase would go to.  I think the goverment may be good but they have been shown waste a little money now and then.  The big oil companies could be suited under goverment regulation as they are in the business of energy.  Many are already working on alternatives to oil and they have the distribution networks.  I would prefer Honda because they have a Hydrogen car/home power generation station coming to our shores in 3 years.</p>
<p>There is a book hitting the shelves today, Internal Combustion by Edwin Black.  He explores all the myths and realities of oil and energy.  He explains what happens with low oil prices.</p>
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		By: Joe Moran		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/09/12/iraq-war-solution/#comment-2651</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 22:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When a country engages in an illegal or genocidal war , the part of those People who are profiting from the war, often use military like psychology on the rest of the population that disagrees with them. To me a Hummer is just one instance..there&#039;s the government controlled American mass media ,which profits from glorifying the war and hiding the truth about it from the American People....then there&#039;s the destruction of our American liberties by politicians and the business&#039;s that profit from keeping them in office.

Then of course there&#039;s the use of religion and repeating that &quot; God is behind our military efforts.&quot; I know of no God who blesses mass murder or genocidal wars for profit. The same people ,again, who profit from war, often use fear and intimidation pschology on those who would rather fight for Peace.

I remind you all of Pastor Niemoller.. Were he able to see America today, he would have a grave warning for us all &quot; Those who love war are destined to die in it&#039;s ugliness!&quot;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When a country engages in an illegal or genocidal war , the part of those People who are profiting from the war, often use military like psychology on the rest of the population that disagrees with them. To me a Hummer is just one instance..there&#8217;s the government controlled American mass media ,which profits from glorifying the war and hiding the truth about it from the American People&#8230;.then there&#8217;s the destruction of our American liberties by politicians and the business&#8217;s that profit from keeping them in office.</p>
<p>Then of course there&#8217;s the use of religion and repeating that &#8221; God is behind our military efforts.&#8221; I know of no God who blesses mass murder or genocidal wars for profit. The same people ,again, who profit from war, often use fear and intimidation pschology on those who would rather fight for Peace.</p>
<p>I remind you all of Pastor Niemoller.. Were he able to see America today, he would have a grave warning for us all &#8221; Those who love war are destined to die in it&#8217;s ugliness!&#8221;</p>
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		By: john		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/09/12/iraq-war-solution/#comment-2650</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 17:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We&#039;d have a lot fewer terrorists if Bush had gone after the criminals who did the 9/11 deed in the first place. Only another moron would belive we are in Iraq spreading democracy, or defending freedom. It&#039;s about the second largest oil spigot in the world. When has this country ever cared about brown people when we want what they got?

We didn&#039;t care what Saddam did to his people when he was our guy and the oil was flowing. We didn&#039;t care about the Shah of Iran did to his people when the oil was flowing. This is a war of economics not religion. Religion, like blind patriotism is the ruse to get morons to do your bidding while money grubbers plant an iud up the publics tailpipe.
Guardian, you could end up in Guantanimo for even thinking that way and I hate to think what they are capable of sticking up your tail pipe.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;d have a lot fewer terrorists if Bush had gone after the criminals who did the 9/11 deed in the first place. Only another moron would belive we are in Iraq spreading democracy, or defending freedom. It&#8217;s about the second largest oil spigot in the world. When has this country ever cared about brown people when we want what they got?</p>
<p>We didn&#8217;t care what Saddam did to his people when he was our guy and the oil was flowing. We didn&#8217;t care about the Shah of Iran did to his people when the oil was flowing. This is a war of economics not religion. Religion, like blind patriotism is the ruse to get morons to do your bidding while money grubbers plant an iud up the publics tailpipe.<br />
Guardian, you could end up in Guantanimo for even thinking that way and I hate to think what they are capable of sticking up your tail pipe.</p>
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		By: Sisyphus		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/09/12/iraq-war-solution/#comment-2649</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Clancy.  Small point well taken.  And I agree with the logic except don&#039;t you think it would have been wiser policy to follow the European example of artificially raising the price of gas as a policy matter through a tax to pay for infrastructure like roads and research and development of alternative energy sources.  This would have accomplished the same incentives for conservation, filled our coffers instead of foriegn governments, and left us in a better position when the inevitable inflation of the price of oil happened.  This proposal was routinely made but defeated by oil companies and their cronies in Congress.  Now our energy needs are heavily oil dependent and little effort has been expended towards conservation making us vulnerable to foriegn powers with oil.

Also I appreciate the follow up opportunity because relaying the painstaking research and knowledge of Thomas Friedman in this blog about this topic is daunting.  It was he who made the point recently that the administration&#039;s failure to address oil prices is furthering the instability in the Middle East by increasing the wealth of rogue states like Iran.  Reducing dependence on foreign oil through conservation methods was one such suggestion. But I don&#039;t expect a millionaire from Texas or Wyoming will provide the kind of leadership on this issue the nation needs. I strongly urge folks to read his column in the Times or his best selling book.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Clancy.  Small point well taken.  And I agree with the logic except don&#8217;t you think it would have been wiser policy to follow the European example of artificially raising the price of gas as a policy matter through a tax to pay for infrastructure like roads and research and development of alternative energy sources.  This would have accomplished the same incentives for conservation, filled our coffers instead of foriegn governments, and left us in a better position when the inevitable inflation of the price of oil happened.  This proposal was routinely made but defeated by oil companies and their cronies in Congress.  Now our energy needs are heavily oil dependent and little effort has been expended towards conservation making us vulnerable to foriegn powers with oil.</p>
<p>Also I appreciate the follow up opportunity because relaying the painstaking research and knowledge of Thomas Friedman in this blog about this topic is daunting.  It was he who made the point recently that the administration&#8217;s failure to address oil prices is furthering the instability in the Middle East by increasing the wealth of rogue states like Iran.  Reducing dependence on foreign oil through conservation methods was one such suggestion. But I don&#8217;t expect a millionaire from Texas or Wyoming will provide the kind of leadership on this issue the nation needs. I strongly urge folks to read his column in the Times or his best selling book.</p>
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		By: j		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/09/12/iraq-war-solution/#comment-2648</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[With regard to Gordons last,  Why don&#039;t we use our power over food supply?  My guess is.... but someone please tell me for sure.... most of the people who hate us in this world: 1)eat our food, 2)go to school here, 3)get medical help here, (here being the west or US.)  I really gotta wonder how many shiploads of cheap subsidised US grain go to Iran each year.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With regard to Gordons last,  Why don&#8217;t we use our power over food supply?  My guess is&#8230;. but someone please tell me for sure&#8230;. most of the people who hate us in this world: 1)eat our food, 2)go to school here, 3)get medical help here, (here being the west or US.)  I really gotta wonder how many shiploads of cheap subsidised US grain go to Iran each year.</p>
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		By: Gordon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2006 04:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[
Sort of an aside, but the recurring comments about our dependence on foreign oil reminds me of something I overheard a while back:

First guy, &quot;I think it&#039;s good we buy a lot of foreign oil; we should quit using our oil and use only foreign oil.&quot;
Second guy, &quot;What? Why?&quot;
First guy, &quot;Because eventually we&#039;d use up all their oil. Then they&#039;d be out of oil and we&#039;d have all the oil and we could set the prices, sell it only to those we like, and control everything.&quot;

Hmmm.....



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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sort of an aside, but the recurring comments about our dependence on foreign oil reminds me of something I overheard a while back:</p>
<p>First guy, &#8220;I think it&#8217;s good we buy a lot of foreign oil; we should quit using our oil and use only foreign oil.&#8221;<br />
Second guy, &#8220;What? Why?&#8221;<br />
First guy, &#8220;Because eventually we&#8217;d use up all their oil. Then they&#8217;d be out of oil and we&#8217;d have all the oil and we could set the prices, sell it only to those we like, and control everything.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hmmm&#8230;..</p>
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		By: Clancy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 16:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sis,  how does lowering gas prices save us from ourselves or reduce our dependence on foreign oil?  A lower price provides no incentives for those people driving the Hummers to quit going to the store for a gallon of milk.  Which ends up costing more in gas than paid for the milk.

A dramatic increase in the gas price is the quickest way to reduce our dependence on oil.  This would jump start many other ways of reducing dependency.  Public transit, rideshares, and bikes would be better utilized.  Also, new technology and implementation into our daily transportation life would speed up.

And may cause me to read a little Thomas Friedman.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sis,  how does lowering gas prices save us from ourselves or reduce our dependence on foreign oil?  A lower price provides no incentives for those people driving the Hummers to quit going to the store for a gallon of milk.  Which ends up costing more in gas than paid for the milk.</p>
<p>A dramatic increase in the gas price is the quickest way to reduce our dependence on oil.  This would jump start many other ways of reducing dependency.  Public transit, rideshares, and bikes would be better utilized.  Also, new technology and implementation into our daily transportation life would speed up.</p>
<p>And may cause me to read a little Thomas Friedman.</p>
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		By: j		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2006 14:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Do you see all the scum in Cuba today.  All the bad guys assembled in one place.  Kinda like when you get several flies with one swat, and only 90 miles away...geeez.  It&#039;s almost like a 007 movie.  Too bad we don&#039;t have the colective will as a nation to define, spotlight, and eliminate our sworn and demonstrated enemy.

That would be a short term fix....long term, I agree with G.  The Hummer and other flashy waste should go.....

Hmmmm IUD??  An inlaw of mine envisioned a little baby stroller mounted car zapper.  He figures he can go for morning walks and silence noisy cars while their owners sleep off their hangover.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you see all the scum in Cuba today.  All the bad guys assembled in one place.  Kinda like when you get several flies with one swat, and only 90 miles away&#8230;geeez.  It&#8217;s almost like a 007 movie.  Too bad we don&#8217;t have the colective will as a nation to define, spotlight, and eliminate our sworn and demonstrated enemy.</p>
<p>That would be a short term fix&#8230;.long term, I agree with G.  The Hummer and other flashy waste should go&#8230;..</p>
<p>Hmmmm IUD??  An inlaw of mine envisioned a little baby stroller mounted car zapper.  He figures he can go for morning walks and silence noisy cars while their owners sleep off their hangover.</p>
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