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		By: Chester		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/11/09/boise-city-loses-another-legal-fight/#comment-3371</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not surprised that they lost this one or any of the others. Have you met some of the attorneys that work for the city? Not exactly the sharpest bunch around. Although I would like to see Avimor die a quick death, it does not take a stunning legal mind to see that the city did not have a case.

What bothers me is the hyocrisy, the city seeks to stop any development outside the city but when it comes to inside the city, all bets are off. Bypass the public approval checks, allow unencumbered growth, build so many tiny houses that you have to give out new addresses in increments of 1/2. They need to keep their house in check first, something about glass houses. Thankful we have the guardian.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not surprised that they lost this one or any of the others. Have you met some of the attorneys that work for the city? Not exactly the sharpest bunch around. Although I would like to see Avimor die a quick death, it does not take a stunning legal mind to see that the city did not have a case.</p>
<p>What bothers me is the hyocrisy, the city seeks to stop any development outside the city but when it comes to inside the city, all bets are off. Bypass the public approval checks, allow unencumbered growth, build so many tiny houses that you have to give out new addresses in increments of 1/2. They need to keep their house in check first, something about glass houses. Thankful we have the guardian.</p>
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		By: curious george		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/11/09/boise-city-loses-another-legal-fight/#comment-3370</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 23:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What&#039;s truly unfortunate for Boiseans, who are now stuck footing all the court costs, is that any first-year law student would have known that Boise had no legal standing before Team Dave even filed the suit.

I don&#039;t fault elected leaders from taking an unpopular position on an issue, especially if it is one that they truly believe in. But, there&#039;s a huge gulf between taking a firm stance on a controversial subject – and then choosing to spend other&#039;s money on a course of action that you know will not forward your cause.

Is it too much to ask that those in city hall exercise their brains before they act – even if it means that they’re only smart enough to listen to the smart folks?

Well I guess we didn’t elect the sharpest tools in the shed…

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s truly unfortunate for Boiseans, who are now stuck footing all the court costs, is that any first-year law student would have known that Boise had no legal standing before Team Dave even filed the suit.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t fault elected leaders from taking an unpopular position on an issue, especially if it is one that they truly believe in. But, there&#8217;s a huge gulf between taking a firm stance on a controversial subject – and then choosing to spend other&#8217;s money on a course of action that you know will not forward your cause.</p>
<p>Is it too much to ask that those in city hall exercise their brains before they act – even if it means that they’re only smart enough to listen to the smart folks?</p>
<p>Well I guess we didn’t elect the sharpest tools in the shed…</p>
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		By: brat1		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/11/09/boise-city-loses-another-legal-fight/#comment-3369</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 21:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The fiasco isn&#039;t over yet!  The library foundation(or whomever runs it) has a new idea on how to circumvent the voters.  Whatever it is will cost us anyway!

Both the city and county have a competition going to see who can spend the taxpayers money the fastest, and least effective.  I hope all thisis remembered when Dave B and team comes up for re-election next year? My Grandkids could run this city with more fiscal responsibility than they do!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fiasco isn&#8217;t over yet!  The library foundation(or whomever runs it) has a new idea on how to circumvent the voters.  Whatever it is will cost us anyway!</p>
<p>Both the city and county have a competition going to see who can spend the taxpayers money the fastest, and least effective.  I hope all thisis remembered when Dave B and team comes up for re-election next year? My Grandkids could run this city with more fiscal responsibility than they do!</p>
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		By: Joanne		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Nov 2006 13:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry Team Dave lost this one. Somebody needs to stop Avimor. Rod asked why Boise and no one else? Good question.

We&#039;re ALL going to have to pay for the Avimor fiasco.  It&#039;ll cost Idaho Power $4.3 million to build a substation to get power to the 685 homes approved for Avimor. Yes, Suncor will lend them the money to build it, but as soon as all 685 homes are online, Id Power has to pay back the money! Those 685 homes won&#039;t &quot;pay for themselves&quot; -- all of us are going to have to pay to make up the $4.3 million shortfall.

If those 685 homes were built where there already is the infrastructure to support them, we wouldn&#039;t be faced with this cost. And this is just the start. Wait until you see what Idaho Transportation costs will be.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry Team Dave lost this one. Somebody needs to stop Avimor. Rod asked why Boise and no one else? Good question.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re ALL going to have to pay for the Avimor fiasco.  It&#8217;ll cost Idaho Power $4.3 million to build a substation to get power to the 685 homes approved for Avimor. Yes, Suncor will lend them the money to build it, but as soon as all 685 homes are online, Id Power has to pay back the money! Those 685 homes won&#8217;t &#8220;pay for themselves&#8221; &#8212; all of us are going to have to pay to make up the $4.3 million shortfall.</p>
<p>If those 685 homes were built where there already is the infrastructure to support them, we wouldn&#8217;t be faced with this cost. And this is just the start. Wait until you see what Idaho Transportation costs will be.</p>
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		By: Boise Insider		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boise Insider]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Boise City is on a (losing) roll...
They really do need to find another hobby.

Here are two stories from KBCI Channel 2 on their homeless shelter fiasco:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www2.kbcitv.com/x79845.xml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www2.kbcitv.com/x79845.xml&lt;/a&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boise City is on a (losing) roll&#8230;<br />
They really do need to find another hobby.</p>
<p>Here are two stories from KBCI Channel 2 on their homeless shelter fiasco:<br />
<a href="http://www2.kbcitv.com/x79845.xml" rel="nofollow">http://www2.kbcitv.com/x79845.xml</a><br />
<a href="http://www2.kbcitv.com/x79851.xml" rel="nofollow">http://www2.kbcitv.com/x79851.xml</a></p>
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		By: Insider		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/11/09/boise-city-loses-another-legal-fight/#comment-3366</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Insider]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 22:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It’s all in the attitude…  It is a case of pure blind arrogance at its best and we get to pay for their ego trips.  The public was far better off when we were paying for Coles trips (notice that I didn’t include Lyman in that statement).
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s all in the attitude…  It is a case of pure blind arrogance at its best and we get to pay for their ego trips.  The public was far better off when we were paying for Coles trips (notice that I didn’t include Lyman in that statement).</p>
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		By: Rod		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/11/09/boise-city-loses-another-legal-fight/#comment-3365</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 20:44:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Opps again said:  &quot;Their pattern of behavior demands we make some changes at the next election.&quot;

How about just boot them out because of their bad policies?  Like approving infill developments? And sprawl?  Both are bad, but Team Dave gives us both.

Granted, in the Avimor deal and the Hammer Flat deal, Team Dave is trying to stop those developments.  Why them and not others?  It&#039;s incomprehensible.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opps again said:  &#8220;Their pattern of behavior demands we make some changes at the next election.&#8221;</p>
<p>How about just boot them out because of their bad policies?  Like approving infill developments? And sprawl?  Both are bad, but Team Dave gives us both.</p>
<p>Granted, in the Avimor deal and the Hammer Flat deal, Team Dave is trying to stop those developments.  Why them and not others?  It&#8217;s incomprehensible.</p>
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		By: Clancy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 15:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Team Dave seems to be racking up the legal bills.  I wonder how much was spent trying to annex the Hammer Flat property?

I think Team Dave&#039;s modus operandi is to:
1. Mistrust all others,
2. make knee jerk reaction,
3. Go to court and lose,
4.  Determine what should have been done.

King Cole&#039;s side trips certainly cost much less than Team Dave legal bills.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Team Dave seems to be racking up the legal bills.  I wonder how much was spent trying to annex the Hammer Flat property?</p>
<p>I think Team Dave&#8217;s modus operandi is to:<br />
1. Mistrust all others,<br />
2. make knee jerk reaction,<br />
3. Go to court and lose,<br />
4.  Determine what should have been done.</p>
<p>King Cole&#8217;s side trips certainly cost much less than Team Dave legal bills.</p>
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		By: Opps again		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 02:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Looks like Team Dave lost yet another one - the screw-up with Community House.

Looks like the City Council really enjoys creating their own law. Or just disregarding it. Their pattern of behavior demands we make some changes at the next election.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Team Dave lost yet another one &#8211; the screw-up with Community House.</p>
<p>Looks like the City Council really enjoys creating their own law. Or just disregarding it. Their pattern of behavior demands we make some changes at the next election.</p>
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		By: bikeboy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/11/09/boise-city-loses-another-legal-fight/#comment-3362</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bikeboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2006 22:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Guardian... another reason it&#039;s good that Ada County prevailed - they now have a reputation for appealing (at taxpayer expense) the legal decisions that go against &#039;em, as in their Open Meeting Law violation.  At least Team Dave has the sense not to appeal the numerous judgments that go the other way.

EDITOR NOTE--Not much left to appeal when it comes from the SUPREMES...as in airport parking, 10 commandments and (public funds for campaign ads in the case of the G-BAD boys on the convention center).  Boise used well over $50,000 taxpayer funds to promote the Foothills levy which was totally illegal, but prior to recent decision of the SUPREMES.  One can only conclude local government is truly against the people in these cases.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guardian&#8230; another reason it&#8217;s good that Ada County prevailed &#8211; they now have a reputation for appealing (at taxpayer expense) the legal decisions that go against &#8217;em, as in their Open Meeting Law violation.  At least Team Dave has the sense not to appeal the numerous judgments that go the other way.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Not much left to appeal when it comes from the SUPREMES&#8230;as in airport parking, 10 commandments and (public funds for campaign ads in the case of the G-BAD boys on the convention center).  Boise used well over $50,000 taxpayer funds to promote the Foothills levy which was totally illegal, but prior to recent decision of the SUPREMES.  One can only conclude local government is truly against the people in these cases.</p>
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