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		By: Jack		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[No wonder the rich get richer, the poor get poorer and the middle also pays for both the rich and the poor.  Anyone for a revolution?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No wonder the rich get richer, the poor get poorer and the middle also pays for both the rich and the poor.  Anyone for a revolution?</p>
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		By: cycsco		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Dec 2006 00:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So if two of the fire stations are long term leases.  What is the new station on Five Mile.  Does the City own it or is it being leased in the same manner?

EDITOR NOTE--The FD told the council they would build it as a joint venture with Whitney and Ada EMS.  It is outside the city.  EMS backed out, there was no formal agreement, and now they need $372,000 extra to finish it with half from Boise.  They called it a &quot;savings acount&quot; project after budgeting a slush fund for a couple of years to pay cash to avoid the vote and long term debt issue.

Typical Boise finance deal which isn&#039;t clean, but we can&#039;t go after everything.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if two of the fire stations are long term leases.  What is the new station on Five Mile.  Does the City own it or is it being leased in the same manner?</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;The FD told the council they would build it as a joint venture with Whitney and Ada EMS.  It is outside the city.  EMS backed out, there was no formal agreement, and now they need $372,000 extra to finish it with half from Boise.  They called it a &#8220;savings acount&#8221; project after budgeting a slush fund for a couple of years to pay cash to avoid the vote and long term debt issue.</p>
<p>Typical Boise finance deal which isn&#8217;t clean, but we can&#8217;t go after everything.</p>
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		By: brat1		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 21:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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I heard mention that Dave Beiter wants to use some of this extra tax money to build his libraries and cicumvent the voters.  Isn&#039;t a library system a long term  debt expense ?  Maybe the mayor being a lawyer he likes defending his actions in court against his own citizens!


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard mention that Dave Beiter wants to use some of this extra tax money to build his libraries and cicumvent the voters.  Isn&#8217;t a library system a long term  debt expense ?  Maybe the mayor being a lawyer he likes defending his actions in court against his own citizens!</p>
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		By: OVER TAXED!		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 00:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So what has happeded is that Dave and the Council have INFLATED our taxes and OVER TAXED us just to build a slush fund they can use to get around us.

Some might think that having a &quot;rainy day fund&quot; is ok but this goes FAR past that....it amounts to OVER TAXING via PROPERTY taxes and then 7 people get to go play with the money. And the way these guys play is SCAREY!!!!!

They will likely play some shell game with some developer friend as well - again with our money and city property.

EDITOR NOTE--Dear Over, you are certainly correct as it applies to the police station slush.  The rest of it is result of growth, good economy and several years of hold backs on needed M&amp;O.

Team Dave is not intellectually honest when they refer to capital projects as being &quot;returned to the citizens.&quot;  They are actually unbudgeted end of year spending.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what has happeded is that Dave and the Council have INFLATED our taxes and OVER TAXED us just to build a slush fund they can use to get around us.</p>
<p>Some might think that having a &#8220;rainy day fund&#8221; is ok but this goes FAR past that&#8230;.it amounts to OVER TAXING via PROPERTY taxes and then 7 people get to go play with the money. And the way these guys play is SCAREY!!!!!</p>
<p>They will likely play some shell game with some developer friend as well &#8211; again with our money and city property.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Dear Over, you are certainly correct as it applies to the police station slush.  The rest of it is result of growth, good economy and several years of hold backs on needed M&#038;O.</p>
<p>Team Dave is not intellectually honest when they refer to capital projects as being &#8220;returned to the citizens.&#8221;  They are actually unbudgeted end of year spending.</p>
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		By: Joe moran		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2006 20:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Does mayor/lawyer Bieter and current Council ( along with the huge city legal staff)   really care about what the Idaho constitution says?

Don&#039;t kid yourself folks, it&#039;s too easy to evade the law as any local lawyer will assure you ( after a hefty charge for their services!) Why not just pay for both fire stations Mayor Bieter and thus observe the law while you serve the community. Our city does not need to be in the hands of unknown individuals... that&#039;s why we elected you!  Boise deserves the best fire protection, police and ems services! Will you assist us, Mr. Mayor?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does mayor/lawyer Bieter and current Council ( along with the huge city legal staff)   really care about what the Idaho constitution says?</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t kid yourself folks, it&#8217;s too easy to evade the law as any local lawyer will assure you ( after a hefty charge for their services!) Why not just pay for both fire stations Mayor Bieter and thus observe the law while you serve the community. Our city does not need to be in the hands of unknown individuals&#8230; that&#8217;s why we elected you!  Boise deserves the best fire protection, police and ems services! Will you assist us, Mr. Mayor?</p>
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