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		By: AlaskaRay		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/12/20/council-refuses-to-hear-public/#comment-3816</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AlaskaRay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 00:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I heard Jim Tibbs on KIDO, He said he felt it was necasary for the people of Boise to be heard. He said while he felt &quot;most&quot; of the projects were worthwhile, to him it was &quot;wrong&quot; for the city to commit the money without even hearing from the people. So where does Dave Beiter get off telling the one councilman who was willing to break ranks and stand up for the people of this city to sit down and shut up?  Why is this web site and KIDO the only place I have heard about this.  Where is the Statesman..Idaho&#039;s &quot;News&quot; leader channel 7...6 on &quot;My&quot; side, or KBOI?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard Jim Tibbs on KIDO, He said he felt it was necasary for the people of Boise to be heard. He said while he felt &#8220;most&#8221; of the projects were worthwhile, to him it was &#8220;wrong&#8221; for the city to commit the money without even hearing from the people. So where does Dave Beiter get off telling the one councilman who was willing to break ranks and stand up for the people of this city to sit down and shut up?  Why is this web site and KIDO the only place I have heard about this.  Where is the Statesman..Idaho&#8217;s &#8220;News&#8221; leader channel 7&#8230;6 on &#8220;My&#8221; side, or KBOI?</p>
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		By: curious		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/12/20/council-refuses-to-hear-public/#comment-3815</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[curious]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 21:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you think Jim Tibbs is going to save the day as mayor or, God forbid, governor, you are a quart low.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you think Jim Tibbs is going to save the day as mayor or, God forbid, governor, you are a quart low.</p>
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		By: Joe Moran		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/12/20/council-refuses-to-hear-public/#comment-3814</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Moran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 20:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Every comment above should make the Mayor and council regret their &quot;tricks to exclude citizens&quot; from government!

A major problem that ties in with the above is that we have no de-tox center unlike the majority of American cities esp. with the drug epidemics our commuities deal with.

Our two major hospitals will tell you &quot; we don&#039;t have de-tox facilities&quot; -unlike most of America&#039;s hospitals.

Intermountain Hospital charges a $1000 a day just for room and board. They are currently being investigated for abusive treatment of adolescent patients... a story on it was in a recent Statesman.
Many  facilities in this area are as bad or worse than the above and certainly as expensive. Why? Money and greed come to mind along with a lack of basic compassion for a human life by too many of our medical professionals in this area.

Combine that with a state medical and dental board that cater to the above irresponsibility and we are left with some real problems. City, County and State government will drag their feet in providing a solution to the above even with their windfalls of tax-payer monies. I&#039;d like every voter out there to ask themselves why!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every comment above should make the Mayor and council regret their &#8220;tricks to exclude citizens&#8221; from government!</p>
<p>A major problem that ties in with the above is that we have no de-tox center unlike the majority of American cities esp. with the drug epidemics our commuities deal with.</p>
<p>Our two major hospitals will tell you &#8221; we don&#8217;t have de-tox facilities&#8221; -unlike most of America&#8217;s hospitals.</p>
<p>Intermountain Hospital charges a $1000 a day just for room and board. They are currently being investigated for abusive treatment of adolescent patients&#8230; a story on it was in a recent Statesman.<br />
Many  facilities in this area are as bad or worse than the above and certainly as expensive. Why? Money and greed come to mind along with a lack of basic compassion for a human life by too many of our medical professionals in this area.</p>
<p>Combine that with a state medical and dental board that cater to the above irresponsibility and we are left with some real problems. City, County and State government will drag their feet in providing a solution to the above even with their windfalls of tax-payer monies. I&#8217;d like every voter out there to ask themselves why!</p>
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		By: idahokid		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/12/20/council-refuses-to-hear-public/#comment-3813</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sadly enough is that Bieter and crew think that the only public input required for any decision is at election time.  I think it is time that we all let them know how we really feel when the next election takes place. The attorney&#039;s who mostly run the process including the mayors office feel that procedurally anything can be done even if is bad business or against the will of the voters
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly enough is that Bieter and crew think that the only public input required for any decision is at election time.  I think it is time that we all let them know how we really feel when the next election takes place. The attorney&#8217;s who mostly run the process including the mayors office feel that procedurally anything can be done even if is bad business or against the will of the voters</p>
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		By: Chester		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/12/20/council-refuses-to-hear-public/#comment-3812</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 01:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oddly enough it has happened again. &quot;One time&quot; unallocated funds- thing is that it happens every year. It is truly the council&#039;s play money. They know it&#039;s coming. They cut every agency to the bone with mandatory holdbacks and other tricks.

They are truly an arrogant bunch and they need to go. Now is the year where we can dump a couple of these duds, particularly the mayor and his staff. I will choke if I have to hear about another library being built that will only serve as a homeless shelter. I would not let my kid hang out at the downtown library for fear that he would be attacked by some drunk homeless guy.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oddly enough it has happened again. &#8220;One time&#8221; unallocated funds- thing is that it happens every year. It is truly the council&#8217;s play money. They know it&#8217;s coming. They cut every agency to the bone with mandatory holdbacks and other tricks.</p>
<p>They are truly an arrogant bunch and they need to go. Now is the year where we can dump a couple of these duds, particularly the mayor and his staff. I will choke if I have to hear about another library being built that will only serve as a homeless shelter. I would not let my kid hang out at the downtown library for fear that he would be attacked by some drunk homeless guy.</p>
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		By: kevin		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/12/20/council-refuses-to-hear-public/#comment-3811</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 00:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I will be glad when election time comes around so
we can get rid of these people! I am fed up to here
with these people. A troop of girl scouts can do a far better job than these people could even think about doing!
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will be glad when election time comes around so<br />
we can get rid of these people! I am fed up to here<br />
with these people. A troop of girl scouts can do a far better job than these people could even think about doing!</p>
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		By: Inside City Hall		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/12/20/council-refuses-to-hear-public/#comment-3810</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Inside City Hall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 17:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The City Council and the Mayor sipmply did not want to hear what anyone else thinks. Period.

Why should they change the mode of operation now? No one has the ability to cause them any damage for their actions so why change?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The City Council and the Mayor sipmply did not want to hear what anyone else thinks. Period.</p>
<p>Why should they change the mode of operation now? No one has the ability to cause them any damage for their actions so why change?</p>
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		By: Jonny		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/12/20/council-refuses-to-hear-public/#comment-3809</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Everyone should have seen this coming, Dave&#039;s an attorney, Tibbs is a blue colar lawman, they&#039;re from complete different stock.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone should have seen this coming, Dave&#8217;s an attorney, Tibbs is a blue colar lawman, they&#8217;re from complete different stock.</p>
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		By: Tam		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/12/20/council-refuses-to-hear-public/#comment-3808</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 14:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The &quot;creation&quot; of savings and &quot;process&quot; of deciding what to spend it on has gone on for years.  Positions left unfilled, equipment under bid, projects pared back, etc. leave officials salivating and dancing in giddy excitement at how to expend the monies unfettered by any public process.  Afterall, they did have to listen the pesky taxpayers when the money was originally put in the budget.

As for Tibbs, I guess I&#039;m just really jaded this way, but:  Either the projects the mayor proposed were not the projects he would have chosen, or he figured the thing would pass without his vote and you don&#039;t get elected to Mayor by appearing camoflauged against the status quo.  He is a product of that system and I find it incredible that he has been reborn in such a short period of time.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;creation&#8221; of savings and &#8220;process&#8221; of deciding what to spend it on has gone on for years.  Positions left unfilled, equipment under bid, projects pared back, etc. leave officials salivating and dancing in giddy excitement at how to expend the monies unfettered by any public process.  Afterall, they did have to listen the pesky taxpayers when the money was originally put in the budget.</p>
<p>As for Tibbs, I guess I&#8217;m just really jaded this way, but:  Either the projects the mayor proposed were not the projects he would have chosen, or he figured the thing would pass without his vote and you don&#8217;t get elected to Mayor by appearing camoflauged against the status quo.  He is a product of that system and I find it incredible that he has been reborn in such a short period of time.</p>
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		By: BrianTheDog		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2006/12/20/council-refuses-to-hear-public/#comment-3807</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BrianTheDog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All that money and no public input.  The one way of getting major local press of the mayors problem with hiding $$$ is someone should start a recall drive.  I have contact with hundreds of people every day and I now tell them to vote for anyone but Bieter, and vote out the other council folks as well.  Except Tibbs, I will vote him in for mayor.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All that money and no public input.  The one way of getting major local press of the mayors problem with hiding $$$ is someone should start a recall drive.  I have contact with hundreds of people every day and I now tell them to vote for anyone but Bieter, and vote out the other council folks as well.  Except Tibbs, I will vote him in for mayor.</p>
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