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		By: Murphy for Mayor		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Murphy for Mayor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 12:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A Murphy Administration will see the Depot opened to the public.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Murphy Administration will see the Depot opened to the public.</p>
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		By: Stephen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 09:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure of the exact configuration of the interior of the depot, but it appears (looking from the outside through windows) that access to the tower would be available from the east side door without disturbing the main rotunda area (where weddings and other events are generally held).  Thus, making the facility &quot;multi use&quot; and open to the public would seem feasible.

There are also meeting rooms on that east end of the building, which would seem to allow use of at least one of them by the visitor&#039;s bureau.  Paying even one buck per person to cover some costs doesn&#039;t seem outrageous.  Perhaps an orchestrated campaign to the Mayor&#039;s hot line as was generated by the letter to the cops could escalate the issue on the depot in the mind of Dave the Mayor.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure of the exact configuration of the interior of the depot, but it appears (looking from the outside through windows) that access to the tower would be available from the east side door without disturbing the main rotunda area (where weddings and other events are generally held).  Thus, making the facility &#8220;multi use&#8221; and open to the public would seem feasible.</p>
<p>There are also meeting rooms on that east end of the building, which would seem to allow use of at least one of them by the visitor&#8217;s bureau.  Paying even one buck per person to cover some costs doesn&#8217;t seem outrageous.  Perhaps an orchestrated campaign to the Mayor&#8217;s hot line as was generated by the letter to the cops could escalate the issue on the depot in the mind of Dave the Mayor.</p>
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		By: Gordon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 06:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;EDITOR NOTE--The Visitor Bureau just rented some space in a house on Vista near Kootenai as I understand it.&quot;

Wow, Guardian, what brilliant folks those VB&#039;ers are! Nothing like having a visitors bureau in a place it&#039;s highly unlikely any visitor could ever find -- and even some Boiseans have difficulty getting to. I mean, if it were in the depot, all that would be needed would be a few signs along the road saying Visitors Bureau in Depot at end of Capitol Boulevard ... or some such thing. But then visitors would find it, and so it would have to be staffed, and those brochures and things would get picked up so more would have to be printed, etc. Much cheaper to have it where visitors won&#039;t find it, right?


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;EDITOR NOTE&#8211;The Visitor Bureau just rented some space in a house on Vista near Kootenai as I understand it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow, Guardian, what brilliant folks those VB&#8217;ers are! Nothing like having a visitors bureau in a place it&#8217;s highly unlikely any visitor could ever find &#8212; and even some Boiseans have difficulty getting to. I mean, if it were in the depot, all that would be needed would be a few signs along the road saying Visitors Bureau in Depot at end of Capitol Boulevard &#8230; or some such thing. But then visitors would find it, and so it would have to be staffed, and those brochures and things would get picked up so more would have to be printed, etc. Much cheaper to have it where visitors won&#8217;t find it, right?</p>
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		By: bikeboy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 16:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m confident that Saturdays are a HOT day for renting the Depot, for wedding receptions and the like.  (More so than Monday.)  I&#039;d like to think that rentals to private parties are indirectly beneficial for my good fellow citizens.  (Much more so than having the place sitting dark and empty.)

Perhaps ONE Saturday a month would be in order... and demand could be measured.  (The Visitors&#039; Bureau lease sounds like an awesome approach for staffing.)
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confident that Saturdays are a HOT day for renting the Depot, for wedding receptions and the like.  (More so than Monday.)  I&#8217;d like to think that rentals to private parties are indirectly beneficial for my good fellow citizens.  (Much more so than having the place sitting dark and empty.)</p>
<p>Perhaps ONE Saturday a month would be in order&#8230; and demand could be measured.  (The Visitors&#8217; Bureau lease sounds like an awesome approach for staffing.)</p>
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		By: Anne		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 16:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Out of curiosity where is the Boise Visitors or Tourism and Convention booth, building or site now? Is there a visible place for people to go to find out about Boise? There used to be a place in Julia Davis Park, then it was downtown. Do we have such a site now? And, why not at the depot? It would be perfect and then it would be manned.

EDITOR NOTE--The Visitor Bureau just rented some space in a house on Vista near Kootenai as I understand it.  They should indeed be at the Depot and the GUARDIAN stands ready to broker a meeting of ACHD, Boise City council, Parks, and Visitors Bureau.  We already have hotel money offer on the table.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out of curiosity where is the Boise Visitors or Tourism and Convention booth, building or site now? Is there a visible place for people to go to find out about Boise? There used to be a place in Julia Davis Park, then it was downtown. Do we have such a site now? And, why not at the depot? It would be perfect and then it would be manned.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;The Visitor Bureau just rented some space in a house on Vista near Kootenai as I understand it.  They should indeed be at the Depot and the GUARDIAN stands ready to broker a meeting of ACHD, Boise City council, Parks, and Visitors Bureau.  We already have hotel money offer on the table.</p>
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		By: theresa		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You are right Clancy, people taking action is what makes a difference .. I would hope to that people that want to see a change do something to help see that happen.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right Clancy, people taking action is what makes a difference .. I would hope to that people that want to see a change do something to help see that happen.</p>
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		By: Wonk Vader		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wonk Vader]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 13:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gordon, good idea about getting volunteers. There should be plenty of volunteers who would staff the Depot, so it could be open weekends and weekdays free of charge and at reduced cost to taxpayers. The mayor should take the lead in organizing this - he could do it if he really tried. Maybe the Depot Bench Neighborhood Association could also step up to the plate and find some volunteers, since this is in their back yard.

It&#039;s crazy to require payment to ride up the bell tower (a donation box would be fine). Kind of reminds of the days of pay toilets at airports and bus stations. Those are long gone because of the unwelcoming message they sent. If you want to make this a tourist attraction, let people ride it for free to see our city.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gordon, good idea about getting volunteers. There should be plenty of volunteers who would staff the Depot, so it could be open weekends and weekdays free of charge and at reduced cost to taxpayers. The mayor should take the lead in organizing this &#8211; he could do it if he really tried. Maybe the Depot Bench Neighborhood Association could also step up to the plate and find some volunteers, since this is in their back yard.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s crazy to require payment to ride up the bell tower (a donation box would be fine). Kind of reminds of the days of pay toilets at airports and bus stations. Those are long gone because of the unwelcoming message they sent. If you want to make this a tourist attraction, let people ride it for free to see our city.</p>
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		By: Clancy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clancy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 02:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is much easier to talk about change than to actually accomplish it. So I only hope everyone is more walk than talk.

Everybody should write to Team Dave requesting a  Saturday per month available to the citizen&#039;s of Boise for viewing.  It is very easy to write on this forum but just as easy to write or call the hotline.
If Jan can do it so can you.

EDITOR NOTE--We are going for EVERY DAY open during the summer tourist season.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is much easier to talk about change than to actually accomplish it. So I only hope everyone is more walk than talk.</p>
<p>Everybody should write to Team Dave requesting a  Saturday per month available to the citizen&#8217;s of Boise for viewing.  It is very easy to write on this forum but just as easy to write or call the hotline.<br />
If Jan can do it so can you.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;We are going for EVERY DAY open during the summer tourist season.</p>
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		By: Razzbar		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/04/20/city-locks-citizens-out-of-depot/#comment-4888</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Razzbar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 23:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think somebody&#039;s planning to put in one of them romantic scenic railway tour trains in the area. If you look around the backside of the depot, you&#039;ll see scenic railway tracks. They are the exact same kind of scenic railway tracks that they use for other scenic railways scattered here and there.

I mean, WHY would there be romantic scenic railway tracks behind the depot, unless somebody was planning to run a romantic scenic railway tour thru Boise?

I wonder where it would go? Where could it go? Has anyone followed those tracks to see where they lead to? Hidden Hollow or one of them secret subdivisions on the outskirts of town?

Hey, that&#039;s it! A bunch of tree-hugging Californians want to use the depot for a dropping off point for a romantic scenic commuter railway!

Give me a break!


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think somebody&#8217;s planning to put in one of them romantic scenic railway tour trains in the area. If you look around the backside of the depot, you&#8217;ll see scenic railway tracks. They are the exact same kind of scenic railway tracks that they use for other scenic railways scattered here and there.</p>
<p>I mean, WHY would there be romantic scenic railway tracks behind the depot, unless somebody was planning to run a romantic scenic railway tour thru Boise?</p>
<p>I wonder where it would go? Where could it go? Has anyone followed those tracks to see where they lead to? Hidden Hollow or one of them secret subdivisions on the outskirts of town?</p>
<p>Hey, that&#8217;s it! A bunch of tree-hugging Californians want to use the depot for a dropping off point for a romantic scenic commuter railway!</p>
<p>Give me a break!</p>
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		By: Gordon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 17:41:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, my! Theresa does get fiesty!
Max has a good point; a lot of folks work Mondays (Maybe Theresa doesn&#039;t?), kids are busy with school, etc. Why *not* Saturday?

Actually, though, like any city park, it should be open every day, and free. As I recall, when events are held in city (and state) parks, it&#039;s illegal to charge admission, though they can ask for voluntary contributions, sell stuff to make some money, etc.

Surely among the umpteen thousand people living in Boise, there are some who would volunteer to staff the depot, maybe sell a few souveniers, give directions to tourists, etc.

Not many people go thre now, because not many people know when it&#039;s open -- I don&#039;t recall ever seeing an ad in The Statesman or seeing promotions for the few hours anywhere.

As for the tower: I can&#039;t believe it really costs $6 -- or more than a couple of cents -- for enough electricity to lift folks up to the top. While I&#039;d be willing to pay a buck or two for the trip if I wanted to go up there, I know it would be difficult for some people, especially those single parents with their children that Theresa mentions. They often have to really watch the pennies.

But I&#039;d bet a contribution jar near the door to the elevator would pick up more than enough from tourists and other to keep the electric meter spinning.

Meanwhile, I wonder why no law types have looked into -- and commented on -- the legality of barring the public from a publicly owned site so much of the time. Seems likely that it&#039;s illegal somehow. ????

As for Mom: Keep it coming, Mom; seems some folks don&#039;t like it when you slam &#039;em upside the haid, but also seems they need it since they like to hand it out but can&#039;t take it.

This is a discussion site, folks -- we&#039;re gonna disagree with one another on some topics; that&#039;s what it&#039;s all about.

So any of ya --  grumpy Theresa, caustic Mom, whoever -- that wanna verbally whop me upside the haid for these comments, feel free.  And let&#039;s all keep the discussions going (maybe someday somebody will get a chance to read them aloud to our city councilors and others who *need* to know what people are thinking!)

EDITOR NOTE-- Gordon, I just mentioned the fact folks pay $5 at HCape HAtteras.  I agree free would be nice with donations.



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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, my! Theresa does get fiesty!<br />
Max has a good point; a lot of folks work Mondays (Maybe Theresa doesn&#8217;t?), kids are busy with school, etc. Why *not* Saturday?</p>
<p>Actually, though, like any city park, it should be open every day, and free. As I recall, when events are held in city (and state) parks, it&#8217;s illegal to charge admission, though they can ask for voluntary contributions, sell stuff to make some money, etc.</p>
<p>Surely among the umpteen thousand people living in Boise, there are some who would volunteer to staff the depot, maybe sell a few souveniers, give directions to tourists, etc.</p>
<p>Not many people go thre now, because not many people know when it&#8217;s open &#8212; I don&#8217;t recall ever seeing an ad in The Statesman or seeing promotions for the few hours anywhere.</p>
<p>As for the tower: I can&#8217;t believe it really costs $6 &#8212; or more than a couple of cents &#8212; for enough electricity to lift folks up to the top. While I&#8217;d be willing to pay a buck or two for the trip if I wanted to go up there, I know it would be difficult for some people, especially those single parents with their children that Theresa mentions. They often have to really watch the pennies.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;d bet a contribution jar near the door to the elevator would pick up more than enough from tourists and other to keep the electric meter spinning.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, I wonder why no law types have looked into &#8212; and commented on &#8212; the legality of barring the public from a publicly owned site so much of the time. Seems likely that it&#8217;s illegal somehow. ????</p>
<p>As for Mom: Keep it coming, Mom; seems some folks don&#8217;t like it when you slam &#8217;em upside the haid, but also seems they need it since they like to hand it out but can&#8217;t take it.</p>
<p>This is a discussion site, folks &#8212; we&#8217;re gonna disagree with one another on some topics; that&#8217;s what it&#8217;s all about.</p>
<p>So any of ya &#8212;  grumpy Theresa, caustic Mom, whoever &#8212; that wanna verbally whop me upside the haid for these comments, feel free.  And let&#8217;s all keep the discussions going (maybe someday somebody will get a chance to read them aloud to our city councilors and others who *need* to know what people are thinking!)</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211; Gordon, I just mentioned the fact folks pay $5 at HCape HAtteras.  I agree free would be nice with donations.</p>
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