Comments on: Publisher Could Take $700,000 From Valley

By: porcupine

porcupine — Tue, 22 May 2007 23:33:48 +0000

Mr Guardian

EDITOR NOTE–sorry about that. How about you take some time to do research for the GUARDIAN and give us some good figures.

Hey your the one making the big bucks… the rest of us are just little retired folks laughing at the NIMBYS….

See ya in the funny papers

By: Thistle

Thistle — Tue, 22 May 2007 19:47:09 +0000

Wow. Is this the height of stupidity, or what?

They claim to be advertising to people who will bring high paying jobs to town. But, does anyone even remember when air travel was glamorous? And, how long has it been since air travel was the exclusive realm of the rich and influential?

Catch a clue Boise. CEO’s travel in private Lears and Falcons, and United’s marketing rag is not carried in those sleds.

The truth is that if the adverts are seen at all, it will be by the yahoos in the cattle crush of coach, recoiling from the insults of the security checks, grumbling about the lack of shoulder, leg, and butt room, with stomachs growling from the foul food (or lack of same), and wondering if they will ever get to the gate, or see their bags again. Hoo Ha, what a target market!

Boise – Proving one more time that fools and their money are soon parted.

By: porcupine

porcupine — Tue, 22 May 2007 19:08:57 +0000

“EDITOR NOTE–We based the figure on the Daily Paper story. They said the normal rate is $40,000 per page, but for this deal they would let a page go for half that rate.”

Mr Guardian

And when did YOU of all folks start believing the Statesman????

EDITOR NOTE–sorry about that. How about you take some time to do research for the GUARDIAN and give us some good figures.

By: jj

jj — Tue, 22 May 2007 17:18:59 +0000

$700K, I bet it is less, I would think we would get a Walmart volume discount for that many pages.

EDITOR NOTE–We based the figure on the Daily Paper story. They said the normal rate is $40,000 per page, but for this deal they would let a page go for half that rate.

By: CYCLOPS

CYCLOPS — Tue, 22 May 2007 02:08:25 +0000

C’mon folks! Did anyone really believe that these guys were coming to Little Boise Idaho to do a 36 page insert because they like us?
If anyone hasn’t noticed, we can’t fly anywhere without going somewhere! We aren’t a fly on a flight schedule’s rear end. The ONLY reason they came to town is to extract cash. And the chamber, the mayor and all the rest just lined right up and shouted in chorus,” Do Us! We are Willing to be Had”!!! Are we all really that stupid?? Because that is exactly how we are being treated!

By: Stephen

Stephen — Tue, 22 May 2007 01:00:54 +0000

What an opportunity for the so-called “growthophobes” to spread the word to United Airlines readers! With what must be tens of thousands of such residents out there in the Treasure Valley, why not collect a buck from each and buy one of the pages in the magazine to tell the Guardian’s side of the story? If the corporations and Chamber can put their money where their mouth is, why not the Guardian and its followers? You think that’s not going to get attention?! (I wouldn’t be surprised to see just that one page advertisement bring growth to the immediate halt apparently sought by so many people today).

By: Mr. Logic

Mr. Logic — Mon, 21 May 2007 23:51:58 +0000

Will these out of town peddlers get a license from the City Clerk?

No doubt about it, these people are slick. They get the Chamber, the mayor, and the Daily Paper all aligned to support their campaign to sell advertising.

G man you need to pay attention. Direct some of your great photography and writing to the other side and maybe you too could make some big bucks.

EDITOR NOTE–Mr. Logic, I got suckered once by a book publisher “endorsed” by the Chamber. They used thousands and thousands of dollars worth of my pictures and stiffed me. Chamber passed out books to attract businesses and I got about $18.

By: Sisyphus

Sisyphus — Mon, 21 May 2007 22:07:14 +0000

I dunno Clancy. It appears we had a fluff piece in the Statesman about a fluff piece in an airline mag. Nobody mentioned any conflict of interest like the fact money was changing hands. I find it sad that the fourth estate has seemingly abandoned its integrity by failing to disclose such a glaring detail. I wonder what other connections they left out? Like maybe an association between parent companies?

But I also find it sad that once again Chamber folk line up like dutiful pavlovian puppies to fork over their entire marketing budget to the endless line of Harold Hills selling us something we don’t need. Why market a place that needs no promotion? Then ask yourself: why pay for advertising for more growth if we can’t solve the problems associated with the unsolicited growth?

By: Clancy

Clancy — Mon, 21 May 2007 20:21:30 +0000

Please publish the entire facts associated with this post. I read the same article and did not see a figure regarding a taxpayer entity incurring any cost with this magazine feature. And how much money is the Chamber contributing.

Before making blanket statements like they are fact, please provide the actual figure or numbers to back up the statements. Otherwise the following statement becomes an uninformed opinion.

“It is all part of a promotion—funded in part with taxes— to attract more bodies to our already polluted air and crowded streets.”

EDITOR NOTE–Clancy, you identify the problem well. I too read the article and saw no mention of the thousands uipon thousands of dollars in public money going into the chamber’s effort. Only the GUARDIAN will tell you that. Boise and Ada County PAY taxmoney to the Chamber. The Chamber pays for a local PR firm to plant stories nationwide–$40,000 according to the county records. The Chamber is paying to rent The Depot June 7 to host a private reception for the ad sales people. They have a select guest list.