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	Comments on: Supremes Issue Win, Loss, Draw Decision	</title>
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		By: Lew Payne		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/05/25/supremes-issue-win-loss-draw-decision/#comment-5331</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lew Payne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 17:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What does it tell you when the Commishes themselves are unable to follow their own laws, and plead ignorance of the law as an excuse?

Time to show the current Commishes the door, and vote in some new ones who swear to abide by and uphold the laws.

EDITOR NOTE--If you are keeping score Lew, it is one down and two to go.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does it tell you when the Commishes themselves are unable to follow their own laws, and plead ignorance of the law as an excuse?</p>
<p>Time to show the current Commishes the door, and vote in some new ones who swear to abide by and uphold the laws.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;If you are keeping score Lew, it is one down and two to go.</p>
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		By: Mother Goose		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/05/25/supremes-issue-win-loss-draw-decision/#comment-5330</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 04:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey, Dave - have you seen what the commisoners over in Pocatello have done - another huge open meeting violation.  Would be interesting to hear your views on the hospital mess over there prompted by your work.

EDITOR NOTE--The &quot;mess&quot; is caused by commishes who will not allow a vote of citizens and banks attempting to create a &quot;financial crises&quot; using my name (supreme court decision).  A vote would cure it all, that&#039;s why we have a state constitution.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Dave &#8211; have you seen what the commisoners over in Pocatello have done &#8211; another huge open meeting violation.  Would be interesting to hear your views on the hospital mess over there prompted by your work.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;The &#8220;mess&#8221; is caused by commishes who will not allow a vote of citizens and banks attempting to create a &#8220;financial crises&#8221; using my name (supreme court decision).  A vote would cure it all, that&#8217;s why we have a state constitution.</p>
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		By: James Bond		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/05/25/supremes-issue-win-loss-draw-decision/#comment-5329</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 15:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sounds bizzare.  It even sounds a bit like the piecemeal decisions the Court issued during the post-2000 reapportionment litigation, where they kept alive the thin hopes of a coalition of conservative southeastern Idahoans.

When it finally became clear to the Supremes that the political willpower behind the Quioxtic lawsuit was waning, as the reality was that the populations of Idaho&#039;s counties had shifted such that any lawsuit would not give them what they really wanted (another district), the Supremes quietly issued a brief order that ended the case.  It was weird.  It was almost as if the decisions were being crafted to not offend certain political power centers.

I have no idea if that could be at play in the present case, but it is yet another example of the Supremes being quite coy and mouselike in a big, political case.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds bizzare.  It even sounds a bit like the piecemeal decisions the Court issued during the post-2000 reapportionment litigation, where they kept alive the thin hopes of a coalition of conservative southeastern Idahoans.</p>
<p>When it finally became clear to the Supremes that the political willpower behind the Quioxtic lawsuit was waning, as the reality was that the populations of Idaho&#8217;s counties had shifted such that any lawsuit would not give them what they really wanted (another district), the Supremes quietly issued a brief order that ended the case.  It was weird.  It was almost as if the decisions were being crafted to not offend certain political power centers.</p>
<p>I have no idea if that could be at play in the present case, but it is yet another example of the Supremes being quite coy and mouselike in a big, political case.</p>
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		By: Gordon		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/05/25/supremes-issue-win-loss-draw-decision/#comment-5328</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 01:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Although there was a violation, the Commissioners are not subject to a civil penalty
unless they were aware of the violation when they held the meeting. Because the Commissioners denied any knowledge of a violation, judgment on the pleadings is not proper. A factual determination of their state of mind remains.&quot;

So, for the commisses, ignorance is an excuse. Sure wish this one would work for me. &quot;Honest, officer, I didn&#039;t know I was violating any law. i didn&#039;t know I was drunk; I didn&#039;t know I was speeding, I didn&#039;t know I was driving on the wrong side of a four-lane highway and then turned to go the wrong way on a one-way street; I didn&#039;t know this car wasn&#039;t registered to me; I didn&#039;t know it didn&#039;t have license plates an I didn&#039;t know I didn&#039;t have a driver&#039;s license or even that I was supposed to have one.&quot;

&quot;OK, Sir; sorry I bothered you by stopping you. Have a good day.&quot;


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Although there was a violation, the Commissioners are not subject to a civil penalty<br />
unless they were aware of the violation when they held the meeting. Because the Commissioners denied any knowledge of a violation, judgment on the pleadings is not proper. A factual determination of their state of mind remains.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, for the commisses, ignorance is an excuse. Sure wish this one would work for me. &#8220;Honest, officer, I didn&#8217;t know I was violating any law. i didn&#8217;t know I was drunk; I didn&#8217;t know I was speeding, I didn&#8217;t know I was driving on the wrong side of a four-lane highway and then turned to go the wrong way on a one-way street; I didn&#8217;t know this car wasn&#8217;t registered to me; I didn&#8217;t know it didn&#8217;t have license plates an I didn&#8217;t know I didn&#8217;t have a driver&#8217;s license or even that I was supposed to have one.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;OK, Sir; sorry I bothered you by stopping you. Have a good day.&#8221;</p>
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