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		By: Gordon		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/06/06/boise-promotes-urban-sprawl-movement/#comment-5381</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 02:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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Y&#039;all see the story in today&#039;s (Wednesday, June 6) Daily Paper about California suing one of its own counties for letting the sprawl continue sprawling without taking into account what that does in terms of pollution?
What a concept!



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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y&#8217;all see the story in today&#8217;s (Wednesday, June 6) Daily Paper about California suing one of its own counties for letting the sprawl continue sprawling without taking into account what that does in terms of pollution?<br />
What a concept!</p>
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		By: dh		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/06/06/boise-promotes-urban-sprawl-movement/#comment-5380</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 18:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dave, thank you for another succinct piece.  You&#039;re right on again.

A main reason that the desert east of Boise hasn&#039;t been exploited earlier is that ground water gets deeper as you go east.  It consequently requires deeper, more expensive wells, larger, higher horsepower pumps and a LOT more electricity to run them FOREVER.  I&#039;m also curious what sucking a bunch of water from closer to the head of our aquifer will do to the rest of the valley&#039;s ground water.

Sis, I know this may disturb you but we seem to agree 100% on this aspect of the growth issue.  Amazing, &quot;ain&#039;t&quot; it. . .
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, thank you for another succinct piece.  You&#8217;re right on again.</p>
<p>A main reason that the desert east of Boise hasn&#8217;t been exploited earlier is that ground water gets deeper as you go east.  It consequently requires deeper, more expensive wells, larger, higher horsepower pumps and a LOT more electricity to run them FOREVER.  I&#8217;m also curious what sucking a bunch of water from closer to the head of our aquifer will do to the rest of the valley&#8217;s ground water.</p>
<p>Sis, I know this may disturb you but we seem to agree 100% on this aspect of the growth issue.  Amazing, &#8220;ain&#8217;t&#8221; it. . .</p>
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		By: Sisyphus		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/06/06/boise-promotes-urban-sprawl-movement/#comment-5379</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 17:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Snoop I think Dave&#039;s issue here is that taxpayers are subsidizing developers.

The developers come in bringing plans that made Phoenix what it is today, hopscotch developments and planned communities sprawled over the desert.  Then they (i.e. Avimor) try to set up taxing districts and sweeetheart deals with utilities in an effort ameliorate any risk of failure for the project and getting existing homeowners to pay the cost of growth.

All the while government is in the business of advertising on behalf of the developers for more people to come here to move into these developments that we are helping pay for. Another item developers don&#039;t have to expense. This is not a proper role of government.

But as the recent exodus from Ada County to Hubble Homes has indicated we have leaders in government that are a little too cozy with the devil.  And as we saw from the recent post on the Statesman&#039;s hand in supporting taxpayer money for a magazine spread we can&#039;t rely on our local media to point this out.  We are getting fleeced and will continue to do so but for the vigilance of folks like Dave.

I appreciate the job citizen Dave is doing in contacting the powers that be, going to public meetings, and providng other points of view.  Sure he&#039;s a bit of a gadfly and often comes across as consistently negative but we&#039;re much better off with him doing the job we should all be doing as proper citizens.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snoop I think Dave&#8217;s issue here is that taxpayers are subsidizing developers.</p>
<p>The developers come in bringing plans that made Phoenix what it is today, hopscotch developments and planned communities sprawled over the desert.  Then they (i.e. Avimor) try to set up taxing districts and sweeetheart deals with utilities in an effort ameliorate any risk of failure for the project and getting existing homeowners to pay the cost of growth.</p>
<p>All the while government is in the business of advertising on behalf of the developers for more people to come here to move into these developments that we are helping pay for. Another item developers don&#8217;t have to expense. This is not a proper role of government.</p>
<p>But as the recent exodus from Ada County to Hubble Homes has indicated we have leaders in government that are a little too cozy with the devil.  And as we saw from the recent post on the Statesman&#8217;s hand in supporting taxpayer money for a magazine spread we can&#8217;t rely on our local media to point this out.  We are getting fleeced and will continue to do so but for the vigilance of folks like Dave.</p>
<p>I appreciate the job citizen Dave is doing in contacting the powers that be, going to public meetings, and providng other points of view.  Sure he&#8217;s a bit of a gadfly and often comes across as consistently negative but we&#8217;re much better off with him doing the job we should all be doing as proper citizens.</p>
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		By: Rod in SE Boise		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 16:07:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Suffering a severe bout of growthophobia is like talking about the weather.  We all do it but nobody does anything about it.  Sounds like the fix is in on growth and we are on the eve of destruction.  At least the quality of life we once knew in Idaho is being destroyed, faster than ever.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suffering a severe bout of growthophobia is like talking about the weather.  We all do it but nobody does anything about it.  Sounds like the fix is in on growth and we are on the eve of destruction.  At least the quality of life we once knew in Idaho is being destroyed, faster than ever.</p>
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		By: Snoop		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 14:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here is another situation that proves you will never be happy Dave. You complain that there aren’t enough services because of growth, and then when they decide to plan for growth and get the services in before the growth you again complain.

Down in Las Vegas and Phoenix they have freeways that lead to nothing. They have beltways that are out in the desert and service no one, yet. They are planning for growth very inexpensively. Do you know how much it would cost to go in now and put a belt from Eagle to Meridian to Boise to Kuna? Just seems like when they do plan for growth you’re up in arms and when they don’t plan for it and we look back and say that it should have been planned better your up in arms again.

We are going to grow regardless if we advertise for it or not, so why wouldn’t we plan for it? If we are not planning for it now then we are to blame for it later when things are all messed up, like they are now. I think your fairy tale on growth needs to be a little more non fiction.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is another situation that proves you will never be happy Dave. You complain that there aren’t enough services because of growth, and then when they decide to plan for growth and get the services in before the growth you again complain.</p>
<p>Down in Las Vegas and Phoenix they have freeways that lead to nothing. They have beltways that are out in the desert and service no one, yet. They are planning for growth very inexpensively. Do you know how much it would cost to go in now and put a belt from Eagle to Meridian to Boise to Kuna? Just seems like when they do plan for growth you’re up in arms and when they don’t plan for it and we look back and say that it should have been planned better your up in arms again.</p>
<p>We are going to grow regardless if we advertise for it or not, so why wouldn’t we plan for it? If we are not planning for it now then we are to blame for it later when things are all messed up, like they are now. I think your fairy tale on growth needs to be a little more non fiction.</p>
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		By: Al		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 14:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I really hate to see all the urban sprawl in this town, however, to look at the positive side of the sprawl and this story, at least they are sprawling in the right direction - east rather than west.  Develop and use up all that desert land rather than develop and use up the valuable farmland and precious, unique foothills that can&#039;t be reclaimed.  There sure is a lot of useless land between  here and Mtn Home.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really hate to see all the urban sprawl in this town, however, to look at the positive side of the sprawl and this story, at least they are sprawling in the right direction &#8211; east rather than west.  Develop and use up all that desert land rather than develop and use up the valuable farmland and precious, unique foothills that can&#8217;t be reclaimed.  There sure is a lot of useless land between  here and Mtn Home.</p>
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