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		By: CYCLOPS		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/06/25/gentlemen-start-your-engines/#comment-5549</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 02:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If status quo is what you are after, look no further than Bieter. Will someone please let us know just what he has done in the last four years about the traffic in this city? Not what he has had &quot;studied&quot;, not what he has &quot;talked about&quot;, not his&quot;intentions&quot;, but anything concrete(pun intended) that he has actually done.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If status quo is what you are after, look no further than Bieter. Will someone please let us know just what he has done in the last four years about the traffic in this city? Not what he has had &#8220;studied&#8221;, not what he has &#8220;talked about&#8221;, not his&#8221;intentions&#8221;, but anything concrete(pun intended) that he has actually done.</p>
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		By: James Bond		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/06/25/gentlemen-start-your-engines/#comment-5548</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Bond]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 18:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I remain somewhat surprised at how accomodating Dave Bieter has been to the Harris Ranch Mafia.  They get whatever they want from him.  It all goes back to that Park Center bridge and Chuck Winder, who spearheaded ACHD&#039;s original deal with them where Harris Ranch had to build it in order to build.

The Harris Ranch Mafia must thank their lucky stars that Chuck Winder was not elected mayor.  He would not be carrying their water for them.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remain somewhat surprised at how accomodating Dave Bieter has been to the Harris Ranch Mafia.  They get whatever they want from him.  It all goes back to that Park Center bridge and Chuck Winder, who spearheaded ACHD&#8217;s original deal with them where Harris Ranch had to build it in order to build.</p>
<p>The Harris Ranch Mafia must thank their lucky stars that Chuck Winder was not elected mayor.  He would not be carrying their water for them.</p>
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		By: RiverCity		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/06/25/gentlemen-start-your-engines/#comment-5547</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RiverCity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 15:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ACHD is a mess, and if Tibbs supports the status quo then he won&#039;t be an effective mayor.

Apparantely he doesn&#039;t even understand that the ULI is critical of ACHD and the current situation.  Imagine what they would be saying if ACHD weren&#039;t paying for the study.  Say what you want about Bieter, but I support the cities being able to make the planning decisions on roads within their own jurisdictions.  ACHD should not be a political body and should not be a decision making body.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ACHD is a mess, and if Tibbs supports the status quo then he won&#8217;t be an effective mayor.</p>
<p>Apparantely he doesn&#8217;t even understand that the ULI is critical of ACHD and the current situation.  Imagine what they would be saying if ACHD weren&#8217;t paying for the study.  Say what you want about Bieter, but I support the cities being able to make the planning decisions on roads within their own jurisdictions.  ACHD should not be a political body and should not be a decision making body.</p>
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		By: CYCLOPS		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/06/25/gentlemen-start-your-engines/#comment-5546</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CYCLOPS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think Robert is right on, but in the past tense. There is no question that ACHD has been, in the past, virtually non-responsive to  citizen input. I don&#039;t, however, think it is fair to assume that they won&#039;t be responsive today or tomorrow.

The recent study clearly faulted them for their past transgressions, so now we will see if they listened. Let&#039;s see what happens before we send them packing. I believe the biggest problem they will face is the proposed &quot;binding&quot; agreement they call for with all the city governments in the valley. It will be very interesting to see how many mayors and city councils will sign on to that.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Robert is right on, but in the past tense. There is no question that ACHD has been, in the past, virtually non-responsive to  citizen input. I don&#8217;t, however, think it is fair to assume that they won&#8217;t be responsive today or tomorrow.</p>
<p>The recent study clearly faulted them for their past transgressions, so now we will see if they listened. Let&#8217;s see what happens before we send them packing. I believe the biggest problem they will face is the proposed &#8220;binding&#8221; agreement they call for with all the city governments in the valley. It will be very interesting to see how many mayors and city councils will sign on to that.</p>
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		By: boisecynic		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/06/25/gentlemen-start-your-engines/#comment-5545</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 12:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I 2nd the opinions that ACHD doesn&#039;t listen well. I&#039;ll give you my example. ACHD installed sidewalks on my never-before-sidewalked block last year. But they didn&#039;t do the curb and gutter. Dumb, dumb, dumb. It looks half-baked.

However, people should be careful about making statements like &quot;they don&#039;t listen.&quot; One person interviewed on CH7 made that very statement and it seemed to me she was really saying &quot;they don&#039;t listen to ME.&quot; In other words she wanted things HER way, period.

I don&#039;t envy gov&#039;t officals, they can&#039;t please anybody.

Otherwise I support a countywide road agency. As far as the cities telling ACHD what to do, ACHD doesn&#039;t tell the cities what subdivisions to approve or disapprove.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I 2nd the opinions that ACHD doesn&#8217;t listen well. I&#8217;ll give you my example. ACHD installed sidewalks on my never-before-sidewalked block last year. But they didn&#8217;t do the curb and gutter. Dumb, dumb, dumb. It looks half-baked.</p>
<p>However, people should be careful about making statements like &#8220;they don&#8217;t listen.&#8221; One person interviewed on CH7 made that very statement and it seemed to me she was really saying &#8220;they don&#8217;t listen to ME.&#8221; In other words she wanted things HER way, period.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t envy gov&#8217;t officals, they can&#8217;t please anybody.</p>
<p>Otherwise I support a countywide road agency. As far as the cities telling ACHD what to do, ACHD doesn&#8217;t tell the cities what subdivisions to approve or disapprove.</p>
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		By: Robert		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/06/25/gentlemen-start-your-engines/#comment-5544</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 10:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The biggest problem with ACHD is the fact that they refuse to listen to the people. I&#039;ve been to a couple of  meetings and all it&#039;s been is a total waste of time.

They will do as they dang well please. For that reason I would like to see the leadership changed. If it means closeing it down to get rid of the present leadership then so be it. I&#039;m sick of these groups that we hire and pay for that aren&#039;t held responsible for their actions.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest problem with ACHD is the fact that they refuse to listen to the people. I&#8217;ve been to a couple of  meetings and all it&#8217;s been is a total waste of time.</p>
<p>They will do as they dang well please. For that reason I would like to see the leadership changed. If it means closeing it down to get rid of the present leadership then so be it. I&#8217;m sick of these groups that we hire and pay for that aren&#8217;t held responsible for their actions.</p>
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		By: Clancy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/06/25/gentlemen-start-your-engines/#comment-5543</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clancy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 04:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This comment from Tibbs sums up the biggest problem with the current admin.

&quot;It is time to end lawsuit based relationships and commit government to serving the citizens.&quot;

Team Dave thought by throwing their Gorilla prowess around with lawsuits they could get what they want.  Guess that happens when a lawyer is elected.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This comment from Tibbs sums up the biggest problem with the current admin.</p>
<p>&#8220;It is time to end lawsuit based relationships and commit government to serving the citizens.&#8221;</p>
<p>Team Dave thought by throwing their Gorilla prowess around with lawsuits they could get what they want.  Guess that happens when a lawyer is elected.</p>
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		By: barney		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/06/25/gentlemen-start-your-engines/#comment-5542</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 02:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;...what I have been saying for a long time...It&#039;s time to end lawsuit based relationships...&quot;  Interesting quote that Tibbs made up for his campaign news release, because he voted for the Comprehensive Plan amendment opposing the Ustick Road widening that led to ACHD suing the the city in the first place.  This just shows Tibbs is another unremarkable flip-floppin&#039; taking both sides of the issue politician.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;what I have been saying for a long time&#8230;It&#8217;s time to end lawsuit based relationships&#8230;&#8221;  Interesting quote that Tibbs made up for his campaign news release, because he voted for the Comprehensive Plan amendment opposing the Ustick Road widening that led to ACHD suing the the city in the first place.  This just shows Tibbs is another unremarkable flip-floppin&#8217; taking both sides of the issue politician.</p>
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		By: Sara		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 02:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wonder if Jim Tibbs great new fondness for ACHD has anything to do with his new best friend John Franden.  Also I guess one way to differentiate yourself from your opponent is to be on opposite sides of issues.  It&#039;s unfortunate however, that Tibbs took this tack and sets himself on the side of ACHD against the citizens of Boise.  Oh wait he was on our side, oh wait no he isn&#039;t.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if Jim Tibbs great new fondness for ACHD has anything to do with his new best friend John Franden.  Also I guess one way to differentiate yourself from your opponent is to be on opposite sides of issues.  It&#8217;s unfortunate however, that Tibbs took this tack and sets himself on the side of ACHD against the citizens of Boise.  Oh wait he was on our side, oh wait no he isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		By: CYCLOPS		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/06/25/gentlemen-start-your-engines/#comment-5540</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CYCLOPS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 01:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is no question that ACHD is not without blame in this mess. But it is still a question of Dave Bieter saying that he wanted nothing to do with another study (which is really strange because he normally wants to study something to death), and called for the abolishment of the ACHD.

Now he is totally behind the results. The basic problem is that Bieter IS the problem! If he had even mediocre leadership skills, it never would have come to this. Let&#039;s don&#039;t even get into how poorly Bieter has handled the police contract negotiations. It doesn&#039;t take a rocket scientist to realize that when you have an almost 10 million dollar surplus and you ignore the lack of negotiations with the cops, you aren&#039;t exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer.

Oh, and by the way Jade, that &quot;KATHUNK-KATHUNK&quot; sound you just heard, coupled with that stabbing pain in your gut, is your boss tossing you under the bus! That is, if it doesn&#039;t catch fire first. But that&#039;s OK because it is not like there was anyone on it at the time except the poor driver who&#039;s got to be feeling like the Maytag repair man more and more every day.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no question that ACHD is not without blame in this mess. But it is still a question of Dave Bieter saying that he wanted nothing to do with another study (which is really strange because he normally wants to study something to death), and called for the abolishment of the ACHD.</p>
<p>Now he is totally behind the results. The basic problem is that Bieter IS the problem! If he had even mediocre leadership skills, it never would have come to this. Let&#8217;s don&#8217;t even get into how poorly Bieter has handled the police contract negotiations. It doesn&#8217;t take a rocket scientist to realize that when you have an almost 10 million dollar surplus and you ignore the lack of negotiations with the cops, you aren&#8217;t exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer.</p>
<p>Oh, and by the way Jade, that &#8220;KATHUNK-KATHUNK&#8221; sound you just heard, coupled with that stabbing pain in your gut, is your boss tossing you under the bus! That is, if it doesn&#8217;t catch fire first. But that&#8217;s OK because it is not like there was anyone on it at the time except the poor driver who&#8217;s got to be feeling like the Maytag repair man more and more every day.</p>
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