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		By: Sharon Ullman		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/08/02/guardian-european-thoughts/#comment-5870</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sharon Ullman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 16:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nick Adams wrote, &quot;Ms. Jordan&#039;s &quot;relationship&quot; as you put it was an individual contribution from Johnson, it was not from Gallatin.&quot;

Sorry, Nick, but that DOES constitute a &quot;relationship&quot; and a potential conflict of interest.  In politics, it is not possible to separate the people from their organizations.  Follow the money trail to see what is really happening, whether it comes from individual pockets, PACs, or corporations.

Sara hit the nail on the head with her comments.  The City of Boise is looking for new leadership, but Jim Tibbs has yet to show that he has what it takes to fill the current void.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick Adams wrote, &#8220;Ms. Jordan&#8217;s &#8220;relationship&#8221; as you put it was an individual contribution from Johnson, it was not from Gallatin.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry, Nick, but that DOES constitute a &#8220;relationship&#8221; and a potential conflict of interest.  In politics, it is not possible to separate the people from their organizations.  Follow the money trail to see what is really happening, whether it comes from individual pockets, PACs, or corporations.</p>
<p>Sara hit the nail on the head with her comments.  The City of Boise is looking for new leadership, but Jim Tibbs has yet to show that he has what it takes to fill the current void.</p>
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		By: eric		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Aug 2007 15:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sara has hit the nail on the head on all counts. Why should a branch of the gov&#039;t take my money and then hire someone to convince me of something? Or even worse, hire someone to convince another branch of gov&#039;t (that I also pay for) of something. Uncle Roy makes a very good point, too.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sara has hit the nail on the head on all counts. Why should a branch of the gov&#8217;t take my money and then hire someone to convince me of something? Or even worse, hire someone to convince another branch of gov&#8217;t (that I also pay for) of something. Uncle Roy makes a very good point, too.</p>
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		By: sara		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/08/02/guardian-european-thoughts/#comment-5868</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 02:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cyclops, it seems as if Tibbs is missing the bigger story and that is, why does the City need a paid lobbyist for anyway?

If he agrees it&#039;s important for the City to have one, then does he agree with the issues pursued?  Was the lobbyist worth the money last year?  What issues were lobbied and were the lobbyists successful?

He left himself open for ridicule by leaving the meeting and then whining about the outcome on the lobbyist.  He may have had a doctor&#039;s appointment, but really, he couldn&#039;t have scheduled at a time that didn&#039;t conflict with his council duties?  It&#039;s not like he has another job.

If Tibbs wishes to be successful he needs to distinguish himself on issues before the City and not whine about Maryanne&#039;s comments.

Where is he on the police contract? Where is he on property taxes?  Are they too high?  Is he going to propose a rollback?  Does he agree that the City is spending just enough?  too much?  not enough?

As the old lady in the Wendy&#039;s commercial used to say &quot;Where&#039;s the beef?&quot;




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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cyclops, it seems as if Tibbs is missing the bigger story and that is, why does the City need a paid lobbyist for anyway?</p>
<p>If he agrees it&#8217;s important for the City to have one, then does he agree with the issues pursued?  Was the lobbyist worth the money last year?  What issues were lobbied and were the lobbyists successful?</p>
<p>He left himself open for ridicule by leaving the meeting and then whining about the outcome on the lobbyist.  He may have had a doctor&#8217;s appointment, but really, he couldn&#8217;t have scheduled at a time that didn&#8217;t conflict with his council duties?  It&#8217;s not like he has another job.</p>
<p>If Tibbs wishes to be successful he needs to distinguish himself on issues before the City and not whine about Maryanne&#8217;s comments.</p>
<p>Where is he on the police contract? Where is he on property taxes?  Are they too high?  Is he going to propose a rollback?  Does he agree that the City is spending just enough?  too much?  not enough?</p>
<p>As the old lady in the Wendy&#8217;s commercial used to say &#8220;Where&#8217;s the beef?&#8221;</p>
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		By: Snoop		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/08/02/guardian-european-thoughts/#comment-5867</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 01:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Come on who cares about Tibbs and stuttering Stanley (Bieter), lets see some of those pics from Europe.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on who cares about Tibbs and stuttering Stanley (Bieter), lets see some of those pics from Europe.</p>
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		By: misc.		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/08/02/guardian-european-thoughts/#comment-5866</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 23:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve never been a huge Bieter fan.  Not a hater, just never really warmed up to him.  That said, at least I have a pretty good idea of his style, and I&#039;m comfortable with it.  Hell of a lot better than Coles.

Tibbs, on the other hand... What will he look like as mayor?  I&#039;ve been casually following City Hall, and have been to a couple council meetings.  Tibbs tends to strike me as somewhat of a bump on a log.  What has he taken a lead on during his tenure?  Anything?  Seems to me he&#039;s trying to cruise into the mayors office solely on the strength of the R following his name.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never been a huge Bieter fan.  Not a hater, just never really warmed up to him.  That said, at least I have a pretty good idea of his style, and I&#8217;m comfortable with it.  Hell of a lot better than Coles.</p>
<p>Tibbs, on the other hand&#8230; What will he look like as mayor?  I&#8217;ve been casually following City Hall, and have been to a couple council meetings.  Tibbs tends to strike me as somewhat of a bump on a log.  What has he taken a lead on during his tenure?  Anything?  Seems to me he&#8217;s trying to cruise into the mayors office solely on the strength of the R following his name.</p>
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		By: shealyisnottheantichrist		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/08/02/guardian-european-thoughts/#comment-5865</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 21:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cyclops certainly has more credibility with me than Nick Adams.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cyclops certainly has more credibility with me than Nick Adams.</p>
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		By: CYCLOPS		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/08/02/guardian-european-thoughts/#comment-5864</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 20:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You know, this is getting just a bit tiresome, but once again, Marc Johnson is the president of the Gallatin group. What he does with his personal funds is strictly his business. What about the monies that Maryanne&#039;s campaign received from the fundraiser he sponsored? Do you honestly think that The Gallatin group is going to walk into the Andrus Center in the fall, sit down and put their feet up on the table and say &quot; Whassup boys and girls!&quot; Nick, if you believe there will be no preparation made by the Gallatin Group in the form of amassing information to present to the attendees, ( gee, starting to sound like a study?) then you and Jill are the two most incredibly naive people in this city!
The decision to bring up the contract extension with Gallatin was made at the leadership meeting on Monday. Dave Bieter KNEW there was a conflict, otherwise there would have been no reason for the letter in the first place. Just because he got up and left the room doesn&#039;t mean the deal wasn&#039;t already done. This whole thing not only looks bad, but it smells even worse! The bottom line of this whole thing is that if Boise needs to hire The Gallatin Group to &quot;fix&quot; it&#039;s image with the legislature, then why, oh why, do we need Dave Bieter? And in conclusion, why don&#039;t you enlighten us about all the cleaning up of City Hall that Dave Bieter is supposed to have done? Those 18 proposals that Carolyn Terteling Payne and the then City Council enacted don&#039;t count!
One more thing Nick, just because you disagree with someone, doesn&#039;t give you the right to call them a liar.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, this is getting just a bit tiresome, but once again, Marc Johnson is the president of the Gallatin group. What he does with his personal funds is strictly his business. What about the monies that Maryanne&#8217;s campaign received from the fundraiser he sponsored? Do you honestly think that The Gallatin group is going to walk into the Andrus Center in the fall, sit down and put their feet up on the table and say &#8221; Whassup boys and girls!&#8221; Nick, if you believe there will be no preparation made by the Gallatin Group in the form of amassing information to present to the attendees, ( gee, starting to sound like a study?) then you and Jill are the two most incredibly naive people in this city!<br />
The decision to bring up the contract extension with Gallatin was made at the leadership meeting on Monday. Dave Bieter KNEW there was a conflict, otherwise there would have been no reason for the letter in the first place. Just because he got up and left the room doesn&#8217;t mean the deal wasn&#8217;t already done. This whole thing not only looks bad, but it smells even worse! The bottom line of this whole thing is that if Boise needs to hire The Gallatin Group to &#8220;fix&#8221; it&#8217;s image with the legislature, then why, oh why, do we need Dave Bieter? And in conclusion, why don&#8217;t you enlighten us about all the cleaning up of City Hall that Dave Bieter is supposed to have done? Those 18 proposals that Carolyn Terteling Payne and the then City Council enacted don&#8217;t count!<br />
One more thing Nick, just because you disagree with someone, doesn&#8217;t give you the right to call them a liar.</p>
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		By: Clancy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/08/02/guardian-european-thoughts/#comment-5863</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 15:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cyclops Thanks for the laugh.

&quot;It amazes me that a significant percentage of this city&#039;s population seem perfectly OK with a mayor who&#039;s main accomplishment in FOUR years is he rides his bike to work!&quot;

If what you say is true on the Gallatin ordeal, then it needs to be known.  Hopefully the mainstream will pickup on this put it all in print with nice little graphic timeline.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cyclops Thanks for the laugh.</p>
<p>&#8220;It amazes me that a significant percentage of this city&#8217;s population seem perfectly OK with a mayor who&#8217;s main accomplishment in FOUR years is he rides his bike to work!&#8221;</p>
<p>If what you say is true on the Gallatin ordeal, then it needs to be known.  Hopefully the mainstream will pickup on this put it all in print with nice little graphic timeline.</p>
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		By: Nick Adams		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 15:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cyclops,

Both Councillor Jordan and Mayor Bieter did disclose their relationship with Marc Johnson--on their campaign reports. Incidently, you&#039;re wrong about Ms. Jordan&#039;s &quot;relationship&quot; as you put it was an individual contribution from Johnson, it was not from Gallatin. Mayor Bieter has recieved contributions from Johnson and his campaign paid Gallatin about $4,000 for media training; both were disclosed on campaign reports.

Also, you&#039;re either incredibly ill-informed about both the transit contract and the Mayor&#039;s accomplishments in cleaning up city hall or you&#039;re lying to make hay for your boy. The contract proposed is to hold a transit summit with area (and other influential) legislators, local officials and transit experts to work on developing a legislative strategy that&#039;ll help bring real mass transit to the valley. It is not for a &quot;study&quot;. This is at least the second time I&#039;ve seen you deliberately mis-lead the public about this issue. Please get your facts straight.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cyclops,</p>
<p>Both Councillor Jordan and Mayor Bieter did disclose their relationship with Marc Johnson&#8211;on their campaign reports. Incidently, you&#8217;re wrong about Ms. Jordan&#8217;s &#8220;relationship&#8221; as you put it was an individual contribution from Johnson, it was not from Gallatin. Mayor Bieter has recieved contributions from Johnson and his campaign paid Gallatin about $4,000 for media training; both were disclosed on campaign reports.</p>
<p>Also, you&#8217;re either incredibly ill-informed about both the transit contract and the Mayor&#8217;s accomplishments in cleaning up city hall or you&#8217;re lying to make hay for your boy. The contract proposed is to hold a transit summit with area (and other influential) legislators, local officials and transit experts to work on developing a legislative strategy that&#8217;ll help bring real mass transit to the valley. It is not for a &#8220;study&#8221;. This is at least the second time I&#8217;ve seen you deliberately mis-lead the public about this issue. Please get your facts straight.</p>
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		By: shealyisnottheantichrist		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/08/02/guardian-european-thoughts/#comment-5861</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 05:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jennifer Swindel works for the Statesman as an editor.  RiverCity is probably actually referring to Brandi Swindell, Fischer&#039;s lieutenant.
I would seriously doubt the Tibbs made any such promises.  I do not doubt that someone is pretending to be a reliable source.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jennifer Swindel works for the Statesman as an editor.  RiverCity is probably actually referring to Brandi Swindell, Fischer&#8217;s lieutenant.<br />
I would seriously doubt the Tibbs made any such promises.  I do not doubt that someone is pretending to be a reliable source.</p>
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