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		By: Meridian Mike		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/08/11/a-look-at-amsterdam-biking/#comment-5911</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Meridian Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 01:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The folks at ACHD eliminated the major patch of  puncture vine north of Ustick on Cloverdale, so thank you.  Thanks, too, Clancy for the link.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The folks at ACHD eliminated the major patch of  puncture vine north of Ustick on Cloverdale, so thank you.  Thanks, too, Clancy for the link.</p>
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		By: Treva		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/08/11/a-look-at-amsterdam-biking/#comment-5910</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 14:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Looks like Europe is just waiting for the bike helmet people to show up. Apparently it&#039;s a yet untapped market.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Europe is just waiting for the bike helmet people to show up. Apparently it&#8217;s a yet untapped market.</p>
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		By: Clancy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/08/11/a-look-at-amsterdam-biking/#comment-5909</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clancy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Meridian Mike-  Your comments are right on regarding connectivity and giving bikes other route options.  For more reading check this link and the rest of this website.  It also talks about the high cost of current subdivision design for services.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://practicalpedal.com/summer2007/traffic.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://practicalpedal.com/summer2007/traffic.html&lt;/a&gt;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meridian Mike-  Your comments are right on regarding connectivity and giving bikes other route options.  For more reading check this link and the rest of this website.  It also talks about the high cost of current subdivision design for services.</p>
<p><a href="http://practicalpedal.com/summer2007/traffic.html" rel="nofollow">http://practicalpedal.com/summer2007/traffic.html</a></p>
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		By: Meridian Mike		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/08/11/a-look-at-amsterdam-biking/#comment-5908</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Meridian Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 03:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Dutch provide a real inspiration for us- showing what is possible.

If ACHD really wants to do something for bicyclists, I hit on a few possibilities today.  There’s a lot of extra loose gravel on West Boise’s pavement following the rash of ACHD summer projects. This afternoon one piece gouged and flattened my road bike tire on my afternoon commute home.   As I was walking my bike the last two miles, I found problem #2-  a couple hundred square feet of puncture vine in gravel on the Cloverdale right of way just north of Ustick.  Other puncture vine was just south of Ustick in a lot on the west side of Cloverdale that ACHD’s contractor was using for the early to mid summer project.

Many developments currently  allow pedestrian and bike traffic only along auto routes. Here in the valley thru- traffic sometimes only occurs on the square mile corridors.   A welcome goal might be to provide a rough X of pedestrian pathways, through each square mile and to have each development provide access to those pathways.  Just like drivers, pedestrians will sometimes use pathways in an effort to actually go somewhere, diagonals may provide a much shorter route, and there should be better alternatives than having to walk or bike along main auto thoroughfares.

Canal bank right of ways would be of real value if we find joint design improvements that benefit the water users, pedestrian and bike traffic, and improved safety for children

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Dutch provide a real inspiration for us- showing what is possible.</p>
<p>If ACHD really wants to do something for bicyclists, I hit on a few possibilities today.  There’s a lot of extra loose gravel on West Boise’s pavement following the rash of ACHD summer projects. This afternoon one piece gouged and flattened my road bike tire on my afternoon commute home.   As I was walking my bike the last two miles, I found problem #2-  a couple hundred square feet of puncture vine in gravel on the Cloverdale right of way just north of Ustick.  Other puncture vine was just south of Ustick in a lot on the west side of Cloverdale that ACHD’s contractor was using for the early to mid summer project.</p>
<p>Many developments currently  allow pedestrian and bike traffic only along auto routes. Here in the valley thru- traffic sometimes only occurs on the square mile corridors.   A welcome goal might be to provide a rough X of pedestrian pathways, through each square mile and to have each development provide access to those pathways.  Just like drivers, pedestrians will sometimes use pathways in an effort to actually go somewhere, diagonals may provide a much shorter route, and there should be better alternatives than having to walk or bike along main auto thoroughfares.</p>
<p>Canal bank right of ways would be of real value if we find joint design improvements that benefit the water users, pedestrian and bike traffic, and improved safety for children</p>
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		By: Sisyphus		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/08/11/a-look-at-amsterdam-biking/#comment-5907</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sisyphus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 16:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think your proposal is brilliant.  When I made the transition to commuting on bike I found that for long distances you just can&#039;t beat the Greenbelt rather than fighting traffic.  Most everything is oriented to the river in some way and the traffic is greatly minimized.  To radiate away from the river using canal right of ways would be ideal.  Not only that they&#039;d all be virtually level.  Great out of the box thinking.

EDITOR NOTE--in my usual humble tone, I must admit Bikeboy first voiced this and I saw it in action in Holland.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think your proposal is brilliant.  When I made the transition to commuting on bike I found that for long distances you just can&#8217;t beat the Greenbelt rather than fighting traffic.  Most everything is oriented to the river in some way and the traffic is greatly minimized.  To radiate away from the river using canal right of ways would be ideal.  Not only that they&#8217;d all be virtually level.  Great out of the box thinking.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;in my usual humble tone, I must admit Bikeboy first voiced this and I saw it in action in Holland.</p>
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		By: curious george		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 16:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s the url for the ACHD &quot;Roadways to Bikeways&quot; project.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.achd.ada.id.us/Departments/PP/RoadwaysBikeways.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.achd.ada.id.us/Departments/PP/RoadwaysBikeways.aspx&lt;/a&gt;

Overall it is an ambitious and wonderful project, but it will need everyone&#039;s help to reach completion (and adoption!).


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the url for the ACHD &#8220;Roadways to Bikeways&#8221; project.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.achd.ada.id.us/Departments/PP/RoadwaysBikeways.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.achd.ada.id.us/Departments/PP/RoadwaysBikeways.aspx</a></p>
<p>Overall it is an ambitious and wonderful project, but it will need everyone&#8217;s help to reach completion (and adoption!).</p>
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		By: cftrek		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/08/11/a-look-at-amsterdam-biking/#comment-5905</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cftrek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2007 13:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting post. I&#039;ve just started watching the backlog of A Billion Bikes podcasts
&lt;a href=&quot;http://abillionbikes.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://abillionbikes.com/&lt;/a&gt;

..Discussion of Copenhagen&#039;s civic rationale for supporting and encouraging bike transportation.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post. I&#8217;ve just started watching the backlog of A Billion Bikes podcasts<br />
<a href="http://abillionbikes.com/" rel="nofollow">http://abillionbikes.com/</a></p>
<p>..Discussion of Copenhagen&#8217;s civic rationale for supporting and encouraging bike transportation.</p>
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		By: Yossarian_22		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/08/11/a-look-at-amsterdam-biking/#comment-5904</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Yossarian_22]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 22:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The ACHD Bicycle Advisory Committee has been working closely with many stakeholder agencies and members of the public to construct the newly initiated Bicycle/Pedestrian Master Plan. The new plan will conceivably eliminate danger areas and gaps in the current quasi-network of facilities. More facilities will be added as widening and maintenance is performed. The goal is for a true bike facility network to be built that will allow for a more seamless commuter/recreation system to be used.

Right now, ACHD is hosting a series of open houses for the public to attend and be introduced to the master plan. Input is highly encouraged. It&#039;s true that an Amsterdam type system will be some time off, but there will be some new &quot;bike boulevards&quot; contructed that will emulate the European commitments. The first ones will be on 3rd and 4th street.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ACHD Bicycle Advisory Committee has been working closely with many stakeholder agencies and members of the public to construct the newly initiated Bicycle/Pedestrian Master Plan. The new plan will conceivably eliminate danger areas and gaps in the current quasi-network of facilities. More facilities will be added as widening and maintenance is performed. The goal is for a true bike facility network to be built that will allow for a more seamless commuter/recreation system to be used.</p>
<p>Right now, ACHD is hosting a series of open houses for the public to attend and be introduced to the master plan. Input is highly encouraged. It&#8217;s true that an Amsterdam type system will be some time off, but there will be some new &#8220;bike boulevards&#8221; contructed that will emulate the European commitments. The first ones will be on 3rd and 4th street.</p>
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		By: bikeboy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/08/11/a-look-at-amsterdam-biking/#comment-5903</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bikeboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 20:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It makes sense to have dedicated bike facilities when they are so ingrained in both the culture and the transportation.  However, the notion of separating bike paths from both pedestrians and motor traffic is impractial, mostly, in these parts.

What must be realized, both by transportation planners and the public, is that TRANSPORTATION cyclists have the same destinations as motorists.  Not all bicycle destinations lie along the Greenbelt.

IMO, Dave, the ACHD is doing a fine job of incorporating bike-friendly facilities into new projects and upgrades.  There are some streets - you mentioned a couple - where it just ain&#039;t gonna happen due to inadequate street width.  Another example is Orchard Street.  Since I live just off Orchard, I ride it regularly, and I realize I&#039;ll be sharing a lane with motorists for the forseeable future.  I can deal with that, and 98% of motorists can, too.  (The other 2% are idiots.  You don&#039;t have to be smart to get a driver&#039;s license.)

What we lack is EDUCATION and ENFORCEMENT.

There is no formal effort to educate kids (or adults) on how to safely navigate our streets on a bike.  Adults teach kids the bad habits they learned - mostly riding on the wrong side, against traffic.  (Does anybody else ever see that?)

And the law enforcement community is very forthright about &quot;bicycle violations are not a priority for us.&quot;  (They tell me that, every time I call to complain after I have a close call with a law-breaking cyclist.  Their recommendation is for me to call Dispatch on a cell phone, and then follow the perpetrator, until a cop can be summoned to the scene.  Can you imagine if DRIVING the wrong way was &quot;not a priority violation&quot;?)
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It makes sense to have dedicated bike facilities when they are so ingrained in both the culture and the transportation.  However, the notion of separating bike paths from both pedestrians and motor traffic is impractial, mostly, in these parts.</p>
<p>What must be realized, both by transportation planners and the public, is that TRANSPORTATION cyclists have the same destinations as motorists.  Not all bicycle destinations lie along the Greenbelt.</p>
<p>IMO, Dave, the ACHD is doing a fine job of incorporating bike-friendly facilities into new projects and upgrades.  There are some streets &#8211; you mentioned a couple &#8211; where it just ain&#8217;t gonna happen due to inadequate street width.  Another example is Orchard Street.  Since I live just off Orchard, I ride it regularly, and I realize I&#8217;ll be sharing a lane with motorists for the forseeable future.  I can deal with that, and 98% of motorists can, too.  (The other 2% are idiots.  You don&#8217;t have to be smart to get a driver&#8217;s license.)</p>
<p>What we lack is EDUCATION and ENFORCEMENT.</p>
<p>There is no formal effort to educate kids (or adults) on how to safely navigate our streets on a bike.  Adults teach kids the bad habits they learned &#8211; mostly riding on the wrong side, against traffic.  (Does anybody else ever see that?)</p>
<p>And the law enforcement community is very forthright about &#8220;bicycle violations are not a priority for us.&#8221;  (They tell me that, every time I call to complain after I have a close call with a law-breaking cyclist.  Their recommendation is for me to call Dispatch on a cell phone, and then follow the perpetrator, until a cop can be summoned to the scene.  Can you imagine if DRIVING the wrong way was &#8220;not a priority violation&#8221;?)</p>
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		By: Rob		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2007/08/11/a-look-at-amsterdam-biking/#comment-5902</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cool pictures. I have been interested in traveling to Amsterdam just to see the bike culture.
I think your suggestions on canal banks and alley ways deserve some merit, but unfortunately people who use bikes for transportation need to get everywhere that people who drive cars do. There are no canals or alleys to go to my work or most of the shops that I frequent.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool pictures. I have been interested in traveling to Amsterdam just to see the bike culture.<br />
I think your suggestions on canal banks and alley ways deserve some merit, but unfortunately people who use bikes for transportation need to get everywhere that people who drive cars do. There are no canals or alleys to go to my work or most of the shops that I frequent.</p>
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