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		By: Andrew P.		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[The original article is a bunch of nonsense.  As a Californian, I&#039;d welcome the building of additional nuclear plants here, so the power wouldn&#039;t have to be shipped 500-1000 miles, with the associated line losses.

To even mention &quot;The China Syndrome&quot; seriously in a discussion of nuclear power reveals the writer&#039;s ignorance on the subject.  Even in a worst-case scenario like Chernobyl, this fictitious phenomenon never happened, yet it has been used for nearly three decades to block the construction of new plants in the U.S.

The Chernobyl meltdown need never have happened, either, if operators had followed established safety rules.  Under the direction of a rogue manager, they overrode safety limits to cause the disaster.  Fortunately, nuclear plants designed and built in the last 20 years, or so, have most manual control taken away from the operators, preventing such events from ever happening again.

In view of the current hysteria about carbon dioxide, it makes sense to build more nuclear generating capacity.  Uranium is ubiquitous in the Earth&#039;s crust.  Some estimates put our extraction of uranium to-date at less than 2% of what may be easily available through surface mining.  Much of the so-called &quot;spent fuel&quot; can be reprocessed and concentrated, since only 5% of the energy in the rods has been used.  It&#039;s tantamount to a crime to warehouse these fuel rods in water pools around the country, since they continue to decay without producing a single kilowatt-hour of energy.

Finally, the idiotic policies of the Federal government since Clinton/Gore and the government of California regarding nuclear power need to be reversed.  The French are the beneficiaries of U.S. nuclear research and power plant development.  It&#039;s about time we enjoyed some of those benefits, too.  Furthermore, there is the promise of advanced reactor technologies that would consume 100% of the radioactive material in the fuel, leaving inert residue, but we can&#039;t get there as long as the greenies are actively suppressing research and development.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The original article is a bunch of nonsense.  As a Californian, I&#8217;d welcome the building of additional nuclear plants here, so the power wouldn&#8217;t have to be shipped 500-1000 miles, with the associated line losses.</p>
<p>To even mention &#8220;The China Syndrome&#8221; seriously in a discussion of nuclear power reveals the writer&#8217;s ignorance on the subject.  Even in a worst-case scenario like Chernobyl, this fictitious phenomenon never happened, yet it has been used for nearly three decades to block the construction of new plants in the U.S.</p>
<p>The Chernobyl meltdown need never have happened, either, if operators had followed established safety rules.  Under the direction of a rogue manager, they overrode safety limits to cause the disaster.  Fortunately, nuclear plants designed and built in the last 20 years, or so, have most manual control taken away from the operators, preventing such events from ever happening again.</p>
<p>In view of the current hysteria about carbon dioxide, it makes sense to build more nuclear generating capacity.  Uranium is ubiquitous in the Earth&#8217;s crust.  Some estimates put our extraction of uranium to-date at less than 2% of what may be easily available through surface mining.  Much of the so-called &#8220;spent fuel&#8221; can be reprocessed and concentrated, since only 5% of the energy in the rods has been used.  It&#8217;s tantamount to a crime to warehouse these fuel rods in water pools around the country, since they continue to decay without producing a single kilowatt-hour of energy.</p>
<p>Finally, the idiotic policies of the Federal government since Clinton/Gore and the government of California regarding nuclear power need to be reversed.  The French are the beneficiaries of U.S. nuclear research and power plant development.  It&#8217;s about time we enjoyed some of those benefits, too.  Furthermore, there is the promise of advanced reactor technologies that would consume 100% of the radioactive material in the fuel, leaving inert residue, but we can&#8217;t get there as long as the greenies are actively suppressing research and development.</p>
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		By: Rod in SE Boise		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 23:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It matters little who operates nuclear power plants:  merchants (where did that term come from, the 1800&#039;s?) or government.  I don&#039;t trust either to run them with adequate safety, health, or waste disposal provisions.

Three Mile Island and Chernobyl come readily to mind.  Wasn&#039;t one operated by free enterprise and one by a government?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It matters little who operates nuclear power plants:  merchants (where did that term come from, the 1800&#8217;s?) or government.  I don&#8217;t trust either to run them with adequate safety, health, or waste disposal provisions.</p>
<p>Three Mile Island and Chernobyl come readily to mind.  Wasn&#8217;t one operated by free enterprise and one by a government?</p>
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		By: dog		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 20:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One fact that the Big Power industry does not want to tell you is that energy conservation will put power on the grid faster and cheaper than any type of power generator ever invented. Idaho power is investing in conservation now by making grant money available to new industrial construction and some retrofits for lighting equipment. Through capital investment in buildings built by the private sector they are essentially building power plants that they will not have to maintain. Idaho Power is no goody two shoes company. They aim to please their investors. Freeing up cheaper industrial rate power gives them more available juice to hang meters on houses at the highest retail rate.
They give lip service to home energy conservation to make us feel good. They would rather sell us as much as we want to burn at the highest rate.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One fact that the Big Power industry does not want to tell you is that energy conservation will put power on the grid faster and cheaper than any type of power generator ever invented. Idaho power is investing in conservation now by making grant money available to new industrial construction and some retrofits for lighting equipment. Through capital investment in buildings built by the private sector they are essentially building power plants that they will not have to maintain. Idaho Power is no goody two shoes company. They aim to please their investors. Freeing up cheaper industrial rate power gives them more available juice to hang meters on houses at the highest retail rate.<br />
They give lip service to home energy conservation to make us feel good. They would rather sell us as much as we want to burn at the highest rate.</p>
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		By: Jim Sylav		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 16:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dr. Kirkpatrick, thank you for the well-informed presentation. If one looks at the propaganda of the Nuclear Energy Institute, the industry&#039;s lobby group, you will find they refer to nuclear energy as &quot;clean-air energy.&quot; The industry avoids serious discussion of the entire life-cycle of nuclear energy production and its immense negative impact on the environment, human health and safety. When one examines the mining and milling of uranium, the enrichment of uranium, the construction of power plants, their operation, the long-term disposal of high-level radioactive waste (for which no facility actually exists), to the final decommissioning of a plant, the pernicious nature of this process becomes very evident. Why do they avoid all but one sliver of the entire process? Of course, this is a rhetorical question. The total cost, both environmentally and financially, are clearly astronomical. Much of the extraordinary costs associated with nuclear energy are do to the instability of Uranium-235 and many of its fission products. This instability gives rise to  nuclear decay and makes nuclear fission possible. This nuclear instability allows for the possibility of nuclear fission and the release of tremendous amounts of energy, which makes the power source attractive to many; ironically, the same nuclear fission and biologically harmful effects of nuclear decay are what makes it a power source the wise will reject. Unfortunately, there are many who are intellectually and/or morally dishonest, and allow themselves to be seduced by the former, while ignoring the latter -- a Faustian bargain with enormous negative consequences.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Kirkpatrick, thank you for the well-informed presentation. If one looks at the propaganda of the Nuclear Energy Institute, the industry&#8217;s lobby group, you will find they refer to nuclear energy as &#8220;clean-air energy.&#8221; The industry avoids serious discussion of the entire life-cycle of nuclear energy production and its immense negative impact on the environment, human health and safety. When one examines the mining and milling of uranium, the enrichment of uranium, the construction of power plants, their operation, the long-term disposal of high-level radioactive waste (for which no facility actually exists), to the final decommissioning of a plant, the pernicious nature of this process becomes very evident. Why do they avoid all but one sliver of the entire process? Of course, this is a rhetorical question. The total cost, both environmentally and financially, are clearly astronomical. Much of the extraordinary costs associated with nuclear energy are do to the instability of Uranium-235 and many of its fission products. This instability gives rise to  nuclear decay and makes nuclear fission possible. This nuclear instability allows for the possibility of nuclear fission and the release of tremendous amounts of energy, which makes the power source attractive to many; ironically, the same nuclear fission and biologically harmful effects of nuclear decay are what makes it a power source the wise will reject. Unfortunately, there are many who are intellectually and/or morally dishonest, and allow themselves to be seduced by the former, while ignoring the latter &#8212; a Faustian bargain with enormous negative consequences.</p>
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		By: Dr Peter Rickards DPM		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 21:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Nuke Supporter,
RE: &quot;Rickards slings around term &quot;merchant&quot; like some sort of insult. Is he not a merchant physician?&quot;
Indeed,I usually support free enterprise, but I am issuing a warning to my neighbors about this merchant invasion, not an &quot;insult&quot; toward free enterprise.
You weren&#039;t born after the deregulation ripoffs and brownouts, were you? Idaho is one of the few states wise enough to keep regulation of electricity. If we allow power plants to pollute our state, why should we have to outbid richer states, that won&#039;t allow these polluters?
I take the same approach on wind power. If we let them on our landscape, why not insist we get a fixed low rate, and first dibs?
Is it not obvious that it would be ignorant to allow Sempra coal plants, and Warren Buffet nuke plants, to cluster in Idaho, and sell all their power to heat Hollywood hot tubs?
I talked with a rancher, and his Enexco contact last year. This international wind power company studied his land for 4 years. His wind was Class 4, and peaked in the high use winter months. His wind also peaked in the summer high use, from noon to 5 PM. They offered Idaho Power a fixed 20 year rate of 3.5 cents per kilowatt. After a few years of watching Id Power drag it&#039;s feet through court, disobeying the law requiring they buy wind, the company walked away in frustration. We could have slapped Idaho Power straight, but we don&#039;t see that kind of leadership, from our politicians, that openly take donations from coal and nuclear businessmen.
We still have a chance to stop this merchant power invasion. Please call your politicians people. They are supposed to work for you, not Warren Buffet...Peter
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nuke Supporter,<br />
RE: &#8220;Rickards slings around term &#8220;merchant&#8221; like some sort of insult. Is he not a merchant physician?&#8221;<br />
Indeed,I usually support free enterprise, but I am issuing a warning to my neighbors about this merchant invasion, not an &#8220;insult&#8221; toward free enterprise.<br />
You weren&#8217;t born after the deregulation ripoffs and brownouts, were you? Idaho is one of the few states wise enough to keep regulation of electricity. If we allow power plants to pollute our state, why should we have to outbid richer states, that won&#8217;t allow these polluters?<br />
I take the same approach on wind power. If we let them on our landscape, why not insist we get a fixed low rate, and first dibs?<br />
Is it not obvious that it would be ignorant to allow Sempra coal plants, and Warren Buffet nuke plants, to cluster in Idaho, and sell all their power to heat Hollywood hot tubs?<br />
I talked with a rancher, and his Enexco contact last year. This international wind power company studied his land for 4 years. His wind was Class 4, and peaked in the high use winter months. His wind also peaked in the summer high use, from noon to 5 PM. They offered Idaho Power a fixed 20 year rate of 3.5 cents per kilowatt. After a few years of watching Id Power drag it&#8217;s feet through court, disobeying the law requiring they buy wind, the company walked away in frustration. We could have slapped Idaho Power straight, but we don&#8217;t see that kind of leadership, from our politicians, that openly take donations from coal and nuclear businessmen.<br />
We still have a chance to stop this merchant power invasion. Please call your politicians people. They are supposed to work for you, not Warren Buffet&#8230;Peter</p>
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		By: The Economist		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 20:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Keystone Center just completed &quot;Nuclear Power Joint Fact Finding&quot; in June of 2007. This report was funded by the nuclear power industry. On page 30, it states the cost of new nuclear power is 8-11 cent per kwh not including transmission and distribution costs. Who here wants to pay a whole lot more for electricity?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Keystone Center just completed &#8220;Nuclear Power Joint Fact Finding&#8221; in June of 2007. This report was funded by the nuclear power industry. On page 30, it states the cost of new nuclear power is 8-11 cent per kwh not including transmission and distribution costs. Who here wants to pay a whole lot more for electricity?</p>
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		By: idagreen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 13:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As usual, nary a word about conservation. The argument always seems to be reduced to either:

1) we embrace nuclear power, or
2) we live in a cave and dig in the dirt with a stick.

It&#039;s tedious.

There are a gazillion simple modifications to our behaviors that can be made that will save energy (electricity and combustible fuels) not to mention small changes in &quot;consumer products&quot; and packaging (think of how much plastic and cardboard is used to encase a $.99 comb, how much more fuel it requires to transport the freakin&#039; packaging that goes into the garbage!) The first step should be to reduce demand, not simply continue to feed the beast. I don&#039;t see why being sensible and frugal should be seen as an assault on our &quot;quality of life&quot;. We can&#039;t build our way out of inefficiency.

I will never even consider the possibility of accepting nuclear power generation without a serious discussion of conservation and efficiency FIRST.

And as for measuring the security of any facility by its proximity to a military base, thats&#039; a good one. How far is NYC or the Pentagon from a military installation? Or what about that other little incident, what was that..... oh yeah, Pearl Harbor. Seems like there were a few military bases in the area, did that guaranty safety?

Nukes? Nukes? We don&#039;t need no stinkin&#039; nukes.

Thanks for the post, Jo.

And yes, Guardian, Jeremy moved on, but &quot;rolled&quot;? Groan.

EDITOR NOTE--Jeremy would not be offended.  Only with great admiration did the inside joke creep in.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual, nary a word about conservation. The argument always seems to be reduced to either:</p>
<p>1) we embrace nuclear power, or<br />
2) we live in a cave and dig in the dirt with a stick.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s tedious.</p>
<p>There are a gazillion simple modifications to our behaviors that can be made that will save energy (electricity and combustible fuels) not to mention small changes in &#8220;consumer products&#8221; and packaging (think of how much plastic and cardboard is used to encase a $.99 comb, how much more fuel it requires to transport the freakin&#8217; packaging that goes into the garbage!) The first step should be to reduce demand, not simply continue to feed the beast. I don&#8217;t see why being sensible and frugal should be seen as an assault on our &#8220;quality of life&#8221;. We can&#8217;t build our way out of inefficiency.</p>
<p>I will never even consider the possibility of accepting nuclear power generation without a serious discussion of conservation and efficiency FIRST.</p>
<p>And as for measuring the security of any facility by its proximity to a military base, thats&#8217; a good one. How far is NYC or the Pentagon from a military installation? Or what about that other little incident, what was that&#8230;.. oh yeah, Pearl Harbor. Seems like there were a few military bases in the area, did that guaranty safety?</p>
<p>Nukes? Nukes? We don&#8217;t need no stinkin&#8217; nukes.</p>
<p>Thanks for the post, Jo.</p>
<p>And yes, Guardian, Jeremy moved on, but &#8220;rolled&#8221;? Groan.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Jeremy would not be offended.  Only with great admiration did the inside joke creep in.</p>
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		By: CYCLOPS		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 22:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dog, you must have missed something in the translation. There is no way that I want to do ANYTHING just because Europe is doing it! We have been screwing things up for 200 years compared to their 1200 years!

My only point about nuclear in Europe is that they seem to have solved the &quot;safety&quot; side of the equation. There is, most definitely, the inherent problems that center around subsidies, operating costs and spent fuel disposal. I think it goes without question that we should all fight to keep from being the &quot;start&quot; of someone else&#039;s power grid.

I still stand behind the position that we simply can&#039;t have it ALL!

Hydro generation still seems to be the cheapest, cleanest and most efficient way to generate power. If that means we have to wave goodbye to some salmon, so be it.

And PLEASE don&#039;t ever associate me with any level of socialism! You would be far more accurate to refer to me as an anarchist!

Just what do ya&#039;ll think would happen when those &quot;sneaky terrosist types&quot; blow up the Lower Granite Dam??

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dog, you must have missed something in the translation. There is no way that I want to do ANYTHING just because Europe is doing it! We have been screwing things up for 200 years compared to their 1200 years!</p>
<p>My only point about nuclear in Europe is that they seem to have solved the &#8220;safety&#8221; side of the equation. There is, most definitely, the inherent problems that center around subsidies, operating costs and spent fuel disposal. I think it goes without question that we should all fight to keep from being the &#8220;start&#8221; of someone else&#8217;s power grid.</p>
<p>I still stand behind the position that we simply can&#8217;t have it ALL!</p>
<p>Hydro generation still seems to be the cheapest, cleanest and most efficient way to generate power. If that means we have to wave goodbye to some salmon, so be it.</p>
<p>And PLEASE don&#8217;t ever associate me with any level of socialism! You would be far more accurate to refer to me as an anarchist!</p>
<p>Just what do ya&#8217;ll think would happen when those &#8220;sneaky terrosist types&#8221; blow up the Lower Granite Dam??</p>
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		By: Dr Peter Rickards DPM		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 20:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Cyclops,
Sorry I offended you with my bluntness...
I did not dismiss nuclear &quot;out of hand&quot; Cyclops. I have been working on these issues for 19 years now, and have an open challenge to debate DOE scientists, anytime and anywhere. I am quoting their documents correctly, and the DOE has even backed out of conservative radio shows, when they found out I would be present to correct their claims.

So let&#039;s talk terrorism! Terrorists have been caught with maps of nuclear power plants. While American nuclear plants are &quot;safer&quot; than Chernobyl, a terrorist strike would create the same huge type of disaster in Idaho, and beyond. That is the bottom line dead end road of nuclear power. The gamble is too large. Even from a National Security perspective, you don&#039;t want to cluster your energy supply, as a target for your enemy.

EDITOR NOTE--Rickards quoted a Washington Post story in March 2005 which cited a classified report by nuclear experts assembled by the National Academy of Sciences.  The report challenged the decision by federal regulators to allow commercial nuclear facilities to store large quantities of radioactive spent fuel in pools of water.

The report concluded the government does not fully understand the risks that a terrorist attack could pose to the pools and ought to expedite the removal of the fuel to dry storage casks that are more resilient to attack. The Bush administration has long defended the safety of the pools, and the nuclear industry has warned that moving large amounts of fuel to dry storage would be unnecessary and very expensive.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Cyclops,<br />
Sorry I offended you with my bluntness&#8230;<br />
I did not dismiss nuclear &#8220;out of hand&#8221; Cyclops. I have been working on these issues for 19 years now, and have an open challenge to debate DOE scientists, anytime and anywhere. I am quoting their documents correctly, and the DOE has even backed out of conservative radio shows, when they found out I would be present to correct their claims.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s talk terrorism! Terrorists have been caught with maps of nuclear power plants. While American nuclear plants are &#8220;safer&#8221; than Chernobyl, a terrorist strike would create the same huge type of disaster in Idaho, and beyond. That is the bottom line dead end road of nuclear power. The gamble is too large. Even from a National Security perspective, you don&#8217;t want to cluster your energy supply, as a target for your enemy.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Rickards quoted a Washington Post story in March 2005 which cited a classified report by nuclear experts assembled by the National Academy of Sciences.  The report challenged the decision by federal regulators to allow commercial nuclear facilities to store large quantities of radioactive spent fuel in pools of water.</p>
<p>The report concluded the government does not fully understand the risks that a terrorist attack could pose to the pools and ought to expedite the removal of the fuel to dry storage casks that are more resilient to attack. The Bush administration has long defended the safety of the pools, and the nuclear industry has warned that moving large amounts of fuel to dry storage would be unnecessary and very expensive.</p>
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		By: NS Grid		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 19:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dog&#039;s got it right. The power is for export.

Most of the people in Idaho get their power from Idaho Power.  If Idaho Power needed power generated by the Payette, or Owyhee nukes, for peaking, base load, or whatever reason, they would be listed in their Integrated Resource Plan.  I suggest page 5 of the document that can be found at:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.idahopower.com/energycenter/irp/2006/2006IRPFinal.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.idahopower.com/energycenter/irp/2006/2006IRPFinal.htm&lt;/a&gt;

The first time nuclear shows up in Idaho Power&#039;s plans is in 2023, from a plant located at the Idaho National Laboratory near Arco.

The irony is that, by bringing more people to the state thus increasing electricity demand, and by using water that would otherwise contribute to power generated at Idaho Power&#039;s Hells Canyon complex, the Owyhee and Payette nukes will likely result in higher cost, less reliable electricity than would be the case if they are not built.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dog&#8217;s got it right. The power is for export.</p>
<p>Most of the people in Idaho get their power from Idaho Power.  If Idaho Power needed power generated by the Payette, or Owyhee nukes, for peaking, base load, or whatever reason, they would be listed in their Integrated Resource Plan.  I suggest page 5 of the document that can be found at:  <a href="http://www.idahopower.com/energycenter/irp/2006/2006IRPFinal.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.idahopower.com/energycenter/irp/2006/2006IRPFinal.htm</a></p>
<p>The first time nuclear shows up in Idaho Power&#8217;s plans is in 2023, from a plant located at the Idaho National Laboratory near Arco.</p>
<p>The irony is that, by bringing more people to the state thus increasing electricity demand, and by using water that would otherwise contribute to power generated at Idaho Power&#8217;s Hells Canyon complex, the Owyhee and Payette nukes will likely result in higher cost, less reliable electricity than would be the case if they are not built.</p>
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