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	Comments on: Engineering Boise Rail Line	</title>
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		By: TJ		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2008/01/18/engineering-boise-rail-line/#comment-7404</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That railexusa is really interesting, Clancy.  Now if they could just let a few humans squash in with the fruits and vegetables it would be even better.  I would like to go east without getting on an airplane.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That railexusa is really interesting, Clancy.  Now if they could just let a few humans squash in with the fruits and vegetables it would be even better.  I would like to go east without getting on an airplane.</p>
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		By: Clancy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2008/01/18/engineering-boise-rail-line/#comment-7403</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clancy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This sounds like a crazy idea.  Banking on future customer commitments to upgrade the rails and then servicing the debt 30 years.  What happens when the companies leave or close the doors?  Sounds like the same sales pitch that Albertson&#039;s and Micron use all the time.

If there is the interest by companies, then lease the track to them for a low rate provided they do the needed improvements.  Offering incentives would be much better than investing cash and creating another level of bureaucracy.

This is a little different than Boise&#039;s dream but  interesting that a private shipper has been able to make a partnership with the UP work on a private train across the U.S.   It is called Railex and transports fruits and vegetables from the West to the East.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.railexusa.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.railexusa.com/&lt;/a&gt;

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sounds like a crazy idea.  Banking on future customer commitments to upgrade the rails and then servicing the debt 30 years.  What happens when the companies leave or close the doors?  Sounds like the same sales pitch that Albertson&#8217;s and Micron use all the time.</p>
<p>If there is the interest by companies, then lease the track to them for a low rate provided they do the needed improvements.  Offering incentives would be much better than investing cash and creating another level of bureaucracy.</p>
<p>This is a little different than Boise&#8217;s dream but  interesting that a private shipper has been able to make a partnership with the UP work on a private train across the U.S.   It is called Railex and transports fruits and vegetables from the West to the East.<br />
<a href="http://www.railexusa.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.railexusa.com/</a></p>
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		By: the_watcher		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2008/01/18/engineering-boise-rail-line/#comment-7402</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[the_watcher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Didn&#039;t get much purchase on this one did you Boise Guardian?

To clarify, I don&#039;t think this is an accurate statement, &quot;If the tracks and industrial park were worthwhile, the Union Pacific would never have gotten rid of them.&quot;

Union Pacific is focusing on mainline operations nationwide, dumping short line track and ROW is consistent w/that focus and says NOTHING about the &quot;worthwhile-ness&quot; or viability of the track and right of way for local industrial activity.

Anticipating the response, &quot;if it was worthwhile the private sector would have stepped up&quot; think about what that would mean to the long term viability of the entire Boise cutoff for passenger transit service, and admittedly it is long term (don&#039;t get sideways on me here people...no need to bring up light rail here!). Whatever private holder would have taxpayers by the short hairs and some future blogger would be eviscerating the City for not thinking long term.

In addition, its my recollection that UP got a fat tax break for donating some of the land to the city...don&#039;t think that would have done that for a private firm.

More facts, less drama.

EDITOR NOTE--We remain concerned about &quot;transparency&quot; in land use decisions.  Look for some grand announcement about business or BSU use of some of that land.  It will be a done deal before it is announced.  The GUARDIAN has been asking about the plans for the land etc. and we are told &quot;something will be coming soon.&quot;

Good or bad, we deserve to know as dev elopments unfold.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t get much purchase on this one did you Boise Guardian?</p>
<p>To clarify, I don&#8217;t think this is an accurate statement, &#8220;If the tracks and industrial park were worthwhile, the Union Pacific would never have gotten rid of them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Union Pacific is focusing on mainline operations nationwide, dumping short line track and ROW is consistent w/that focus and says NOTHING about the &#8220;worthwhile-ness&#8221; or viability of the track and right of way for local industrial activity.</p>
<p>Anticipating the response, &#8220;if it was worthwhile the private sector would have stepped up&#8221; think about what that would mean to the long term viability of the entire Boise cutoff for passenger transit service, and admittedly it is long term (don&#8217;t get sideways on me here people&#8230;no need to bring up light rail here!). Whatever private holder would have taxpayers by the short hairs and some future blogger would be eviscerating the City for not thinking long term.</p>
<p>In addition, its my recollection that UP got a fat tax break for donating some of the land to the city&#8230;don&#8217;t think that would have done that for a private firm.</p>
<p>More facts, less drama.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;We remain concerned about &#8220;transparency&#8221; in land use decisions.  Look for some grand announcement about business or BSU use of some of that land.  It will be a done deal before it is announced.  The GUARDIAN has been asking about the plans for the land etc. and we are told &#8220;something will be coming soon.&#8221;</p>
<p>Good or bad, we deserve to know as dev elopments unfold.</p>
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		By: Inside City Hall		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2008/01/18/engineering-boise-rail-line/#comment-7401</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 04:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Keep digging on this...you are just scratching the surface. You need to look at who gets paid by whom and how the contract with the train operators are being cut. Also where the money will go in city and if, in fact it is lawful for a city to enter into such an arrangement as this.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep digging on this&#8230;you are just scratching the surface. You need to look at who gets paid by whom and how the contract with the train operators are being cut. Also where the money will go in city and if, in fact it is lawful for a city to enter into such an arrangement as this.</p>
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		By: CYCLOPS		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2008/01/18/engineering-boise-rail-line/#comment-7400</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 00:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would love to be &quot;aghast&quot; at such actions!
But there is no longer ANYTHING that this mayor and a majority of the council could do that comes even close to being surprising!

Why don&#039;t we put some money in a pot and go buy him a Lionel train set with one of those dorky hats, have him set it up in his office and just close his door for the next four years.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to be &#8220;aghast&#8221; at such actions!<br />
But there is no longer ANYTHING that this mayor and a majority of the council could do that comes even close to being surprising!</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t we put some money in a pot and go buy him a Lionel train set with one of those dorky hats, have him set it up in his office and just close his door for the next four years.</p>
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		By: bikeboy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2008/01/18/engineering-boise-rail-line/#comment-7399</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Who will get to drive the train?&quot;

DUH!?!!

Mayor Bieter, of course!

(And I bet poor ol&#039; Mayor Brent is avocado-green with envy!)
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Who will get to drive the train?&#8221;</p>
<p>DUH!?!!</p>
<p>Mayor Bieter, of course!</p>
<p>(And I bet poor ol&#8217; Mayor Brent is avocado-green with envy!)</p>
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