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		By: Anne		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2008/06/17/paper-goes-pressless-to-avoid-red-ink/#comment-8548</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anne]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 03:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interestingly, a recent nationwide study determined that the majority of people seek their news -- especially local news -- from traditional news sources when they go  online. The conclusion was that if the news sources (TV and newspaper) understood how to leverage that information and market the broadcast/print versions in tandem with well-structured Web pages, the traditional local news outlets are still the most potent game in town.

A recent national media conference speaker also called for newspapers and TV stations to make their Web sites one-stop information sources about their towns.

There is a lag of understanding this power in the case of advertisers. But when the media outlets themselves do little to demonstrate the point, then it is a two-fold loss for the community.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly, a recent nationwide study determined that the majority of people seek their news &#8212; especially local news &#8212; from traditional news sources when they go  online. The conclusion was that if the news sources (TV and newspaper) understood how to leverage that information and market the broadcast/print versions in tandem with well-structured Web pages, the traditional local news outlets are still the most potent game in town.</p>
<p>A recent national media conference speaker also called for newspapers and TV stations to make their Web sites one-stop information sources about their towns.</p>
<p>There is a lag of understanding this power in the case of advertisers. But when the media outlets themselves do little to demonstrate the point, then it is a two-fold loss for the community.</p>
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		By: bert farber		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bert farber]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 17:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you&#039;re ever in Houston, you&#039;d better do right. Better not gamble. Better not fight. Cause the sheriff&#039;ll get you, his boys&#039;ll take you down, and next thing you know -- you&#039;re prison bound.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re ever in Houston, you&#8217;d better do right. Better not gamble. Better not fight. Cause the sheriff&#8217;ll get you, his boys&#8217;ll take you down, and next thing you know &#8212; you&#8217;re prison bound.</p>
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		By: TEX		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TEX]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Shouldn&#039;t that be the Houston Chronicle? Another great newspaper that has gone downhill...still better than the Mistakesman, which is worthless except to keep my boxer from making scoot marks on the carpet.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shouldn&#8217;t that be the Houston Chronicle? Another great newspaper that has gone downhill&#8230;still better than the Mistakesman, which is worthless except to keep my boxer from making scoot marks on the carpet.</p>
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		By: Rod in SE Boise		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rod in SE Boise]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 23:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We can argue wether the loss of ad revinue is a long term trend for the print news industry or something that has happened since gas passed $3 per gallon and diesel passed $4 per gallon.  But with gas over $4 and diesel approaching $5, fasten your seat belts, it&#039;s going to be a bumpy ride in all phases of the economy.  It could get really ugly.  Some would advise you to start hoarding canned goods and ammo.  We could see the return of double digit inflation which could lead to...............
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We can argue wether the loss of ad revinue is a long term trend for the print news industry or something that has happened since gas passed $3 per gallon and diesel passed $4 per gallon.  But with gas over $4 and diesel approaching $5, fasten your seat belts, it&#8217;s going to be a bumpy ride in all phases of the economy.  It could get really ugly.  Some would advise you to start hoarding canned goods and ammo.  We could see the return of double digit inflation which could lead to&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		By: TJ		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And the crossword puzzle must be prepared in Indonesia or is computer generated.  It is not as much fun as it used to be.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the crossword puzzle must be prepared in Indonesia or is computer generated.  It is not as much fun as it used to be.</p>
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		By: Migration		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Migration]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting that one of Boise’s most ardent cheerleaders should become a metaphor for the greater economic reality of the valley: It’s gone west young man.

Eagle, the Foothills, and East Boise get the glory, but for every 10 houses sold in those areas, more than 90 are sold west of 5-Mile, South of the river. The western part of the valley is adding shopping centers while Boise struggles, for a second decade, to find an answer to The Pit.  Boise pays people to promote it in magazines and other locals (with dubious effect) while manufacturing operations quietly move in and start up in the Nampa-Caldwell area.

Don’t get me wrong, Boise is not dead.  However, as the western migration of the Statesman’s printing press attests, the economic force of the western valley is real, it is growing, and in some respects has already surpassed Boise.



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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting that one of Boise’s most ardent cheerleaders should become a metaphor for the greater economic reality of the valley: It’s gone west young man.</p>
<p>Eagle, the Foothills, and East Boise get the glory, but for every 10 houses sold in those areas, more than 90 are sold west of 5-Mile, South of the river. The western part of the valley is adding shopping centers while Boise struggles, for a second decade, to find an answer to The Pit.  Boise pays people to promote it in magazines and other locals (with dubious effect) while manufacturing operations quietly move in and start up in the Nampa-Caldwell area.</p>
<p>Don’t get me wrong, Boise is not dead.  However, as the western migration of the Statesman’s printing press attests, the economic force of the western valley is real, it is growing, and in some respects has already surpassed Boise.</p>
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		By: Grumpy ole guy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grumpy ole guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 08:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I suppose the cheap shot here would be to go for the &quot;since they don&#039;t produce much news reporting, they don&#039;t need much paper, press-time, or ink&quot;.   The sad fact of the matter is that several of the columnists are quite good writers but this reader gets the feeling that they are reigned in, in space and in topics covered.  The &quot;news&quot; sections are a sad, sad joke, the dearth shows an alarming lack of ability to cover news worthy events.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose the cheap shot here would be to go for the &#8220;since they don&#8217;t produce much news reporting, they don&#8217;t need much paper, press-time, or ink&#8221;.   The sad fact of the matter is that several of the columnists are quite good writers but this reader gets the feeling that they are reigned in, in space and in topics covered.  The &#8220;news&#8221; sections are a sad, sad joke, the dearth shows an alarming lack of ability to cover news worthy events.</p>
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		By: Boise Whiskey Tango		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boise Whiskey Tango]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[On more than one occasion, I have found the &quot;Local&quot; section totally devoid of articles of Local origin.  Every single article taken from the AP / UPI Wires.

Puff pieces, regurgitated Press Releases, feeds from the Wire Services and an obsession with the sexual orientation of a thertain U.S. Thenator [sic] seem to pass for journalism on Curtis Road.

More often than not, for in depth-reporting of important State issues, I find the New York Times far more informative than our &quot;Local&quot; rag.

And despite the bombast of their promotional spots, our local broadcast news services really aren&#039;t any better, and the demographic shift to their medium is more indicative of the laziness of the average American (at least when it comes to staying informed about important issues) than a damnation of print.

&quot;All that evil (or at least the corrupt and inept) needs to succeed is for good men to stand by and do nothing.&quot;


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On more than one occasion, I have found the &#8220;Local&#8221; section totally devoid of articles of Local origin.  Every single article taken from the AP / UPI Wires.</p>
<p>Puff pieces, regurgitated Press Releases, feeds from the Wire Services and an obsession with the sexual orientation of a thertain U.S. Thenator [sic] seem to pass for journalism on Curtis Road.</p>
<p>More often than not, for in depth-reporting of important State issues, I find the New York Times far more informative than our &#8220;Local&#8221; rag.</p>
<p>And despite the bombast of their promotional spots, our local broadcast news services really aren&#8217;t any better, and the demographic shift to their medium is more indicative of the laziness of the average American (at least when it comes to staying informed about important issues) than a damnation of print.</p>
<p>&#8220;All that evil (or at least the corrupt and inept) needs to succeed is for good men to stand by and do nothing.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Paper watcher		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paper watcher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I loved the arrogance of the current transient publisher in the article announcing the &quot;historic&quot; agreement.

&quot;We have more readers today than ever before – for our newspaper, our website and our niche products.&quot;

Untrue.

FACT: one year ago THRIVE magazine was still in existence. Today it is not

FACT: The paper&#039;s website grew just 1/10th of one percent from July 2006 to July 2007 (according to The Media Audit - themediaaudit.com).  Inside information indicates almost no growth this year as well.

FACT: The Audit Bureau of Circulation shows that the paper killed trees for 65,124 daily copies. By September of 2007 - fewer trees died for 61,473 copies.  Today, that number is very likely even lower - despite the carnival barkers positioned at Fred Meyer and the mall

So let&#039;s compute: Killed its largest niche publication.  Website not growing. Six percent drop in circulation.

Fewer people are reading the Idaho Statesman&#039;s products today than a year ago... or even two.

Also - it&#039;s a disservice to the SIXTEEN people laid off Monday to bury that fact in the eighth paragraph of a story that didn&#039;t even run in the A section of the paper.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved the arrogance of the current transient publisher in the article announcing the &#8220;historic&#8221; agreement.</p>
<p>&#8220;We have more readers today than ever before – for our newspaper, our website and our niche products.&#8221;</p>
<p>Untrue.</p>
<p>FACT: one year ago THRIVE magazine was still in existence. Today it is not</p>
<p>FACT: The paper&#8217;s website grew just 1/10th of one percent from July 2006 to July 2007 (according to The Media Audit &#8211; themediaaudit.com).  Inside information indicates almost no growth this year as well.</p>
<p>FACT: The Audit Bureau of Circulation shows that the paper killed trees for 65,124 daily copies. By September of 2007 &#8211; fewer trees died for 61,473 copies.  Today, that number is very likely even lower &#8211; despite the carnival barkers positioned at Fred Meyer and the mall</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s compute: Killed its largest niche publication.  Website not growing. Six percent drop in circulation.</p>
<p>Fewer people are reading the Idaho Statesman&#8217;s products today than a year ago&#8230; or even two.</p>
<p>Also &#8211; it&#8217;s a disservice to the SIXTEEN people laid off Monday to bury that fact in the eighth paragraph of a story that didn&#8217;t even run in the A section of the paper.</p>
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		By: jo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 23:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Comment 2: will their new printer. the Press Trib, still use soy-based ink?

Editor Note-- Jo, are you saying there is no meat to the Daily Paper.  Where&#039;s the beef?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment 2: will their new printer. the Press Trib, still use soy-based ink?</p>
<p>Editor Note&#8211; Jo, are you saying there is no meat to the Daily Paper.  Where&#8217;s the beef?</p>
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