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		By: TJ		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2008/09/26/lingering-land-deal-questions/#comment-9732</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Clancy Anderson should see if the listing agent is related to someone on the council.  Remember realtors are paid on commission - they loved the price bubble of the last few years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clancy Anderson should see if the listing agent is related to someone on the council.  Remember realtors are paid on commission &#8211; they loved the price bubble of the last few years.</p>
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		By: BrianC		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2008/09/26/lingering-land-deal-questions/#comment-9681</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BrianC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[check out the council meeting agenda for the 30th... supposedly revisiting the land deal.  But surprise, it&#039;s right back on the consent agenda.  Any sign yet of the required public hearing notice?  Given that it&#039;s on the consent agenda, it&#039;s hard to argue that it&#039;s a public hearing.

http://www.cityofboise.org/Departments/City_Clerk/PDF/Agendas/2008/093008ca.pdf
Scroll down to RESOLUTION &quot;H.&quot;

EDITOR NOTE-- 
I intend to appear before the council and request the item be removed from the consent agenda and opened for public discussion (citizens are allowed to do that).  Council has advised me they will listen to comments at that time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>check out the council meeting agenda for the 30th&#8230; supposedly revisiting the land deal.  But surprise, it&#8217;s right back on the consent agenda.  Any sign yet of the required public hearing notice?  Given that it&#8217;s on the consent agenda, it&#8217;s hard to argue that it&#8217;s a public hearing.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cityofboise.org/Departments/City_Clerk/PDF/Agendas/2008/093008ca.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.cityofboise.org/Departments/City_Clerk/PDF/Agendas/2008/093008ca.pdf</a><br />
Scroll down to RESOLUTION &#8220;H.&#8221;</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;<br />
I intend to appear before the council and request the item be removed from the consent agenda and opened for public discussion (citizens are allowed to do that).  Council has advised me they will listen to comments at that time.</p>
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		By: Clippityclop		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2008/09/26/lingering-land-deal-questions/#comment-9677</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clippityclop]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fraz,
You&#039;re my hero.  Plain and simple.  This communty is immeasurably better off because of you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fraz,<br />
You&#8217;re my hero.  Plain and simple.  This communty is immeasurably better off because of you.</p>
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		By: boisecynic		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2008/09/26/lingering-land-deal-questions/#comment-9676</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[boisecynic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One thing I never hear mentioned is apportionment, or rather the lack of it.

Even the city historian doesn&#039;t know when the last time the city of Boise added a councilor position, it&#039;s been 6 as long as anyone alive can remember.

Look at it this way. In 1960 the city population was roughly 35,000.  As of 2008, it&#039;s approaching 235,000. In 1960, every 6000 had a city councilor, so to speak. In 2008, each councilor represents nearly 40,000 people. Compared to the generation of early 60s, the worth of our vote has been diluted by 6 or 7 to 1.

The same could be said about the State and Federal gov&#039;ts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I never hear mentioned is apportionment, or rather the lack of it.</p>
<p>Even the city historian doesn&#8217;t know when the last time the city of Boise added a councilor position, it&#8217;s been 6 as long as anyone alive can remember.</p>
<p>Look at it this way. In 1960 the city population was roughly 35,000.  As of 2008, it&#8217;s approaching 235,000. In 1960, every 6000 had a city councilor, so to speak. In 2008, each councilor represents nearly 40,000 people. Compared to the generation of early 60s, the worth of our vote has been diluted by 6 or 7 to 1.</p>
<p>The same could be said about the State and Federal gov&#8217;ts.</p>
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		By: Gordon		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2008/09/26/lingering-land-deal-questions/#comment-9675</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gordon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 22:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow, Fraz! You keep on &#039;em like a bulldog on a burglar.
Way to go!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Fraz! You keep on &#8217;em like a bulldog on a burglar.<br />
Way to go!!!</p>
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		By: Cyclops		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2008/09/26/lingering-land-deal-questions/#comment-9673</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cyclops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 05:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Absolutely spot on, Picayune! The real problem here is they are returned to office by a substantial margin! It will be very interesting to see how they &quot;spin&quot; this latest snafu!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely spot on, Picayune! The real problem here is they are returned to office by a substantial margin! It will be very interesting to see how they &#8220;spin&#8221; this latest snafu!</p>
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		By: The Boise Picayune		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2008/09/26/lingering-land-deal-questions/#comment-9672</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Boise Picayune]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 20:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Boise Picayune staunchly supports the Boise Guardian&#039;s unrelenting campaign for honest, ethical and transparent governance.

...and furthermore:

The entire State of Idaho has fewer people than Manhattan Island, and the City of Boise fewer than most neighborhoods in an American City...

Yet Boise is populated by a convolution of Quasi-Governmental Entities (i.e. CCDC) and Political Fiefdoms (i.e. GBAD) who&#039;s real purpose appears to be to relieve the Mayor and City Council of any real responsibility or accountability, and perhaps most insidiously, to provide plausible deniability.

Shenanigans abound with failed projects due to a total absence of due diligence, and the insult-to-injury of repeated attempts to circumvent State Law and the will of the Voters.

Recent examples can be found at the Boise Guardian, where Mr. David R. Frazier continues to successfully thwart City Hall&#039;s repeated attempts to break the law and veil it&#039;s intentions.

The Boise Picayune renews it&#039;s call for the installation of a City Manager form of governance to bring accountability and sanity to local government.

--

The next City Council Meeting is Tuesday, September 30 at 6 p.m.

All those interested in good government are urged to attend.

EDITOR NOTE--If anyone wishes to speak or is allowed to speak, please stay on message and confine remarks to the land trade issue.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Boise Picayune staunchly supports the Boise Guardian&#8217;s unrelenting campaign for honest, ethical and transparent governance.</p>
<p>&#8230;and furthermore:</p>
<p>The entire State of Idaho has fewer people than Manhattan Island, and the City of Boise fewer than most neighborhoods in an American City&#8230;</p>
<p>Yet Boise is populated by a convolution of Quasi-Governmental Entities (i.e. CCDC) and Political Fiefdoms (i.e. GBAD) who&#8217;s real purpose appears to be to relieve the Mayor and City Council of any real responsibility or accountability, and perhaps most insidiously, to provide plausible deniability.</p>
<p>Shenanigans abound with failed projects due to a total absence of due diligence, and the insult-to-injury of repeated attempts to circumvent State Law and the will of the Voters.</p>
<p>Recent examples can be found at the Boise Guardian, where Mr. David R. Frazier continues to successfully thwart City Hall&#8217;s repeated attempts to break the law and veil it&#8217;s intentions.</p>
<p>The Boise Picayune renews it&#8217;s call for the installation of a City Manager form of governance to bring accountability and sanity to local government.</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>The next City Council Meeting is Tuesday, September 30 at 6 p.m.</p>
<p>All those interested in good government are urged to attend.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;If anyone wishes to speak or is allowed to speak, please stay on message and confine remarks to the land trade issue.</p>
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		By: Roberto		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2008/09/26/lingering-land-deal-questions/#comment-9665</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roberto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 03:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, Mr. Guardian...you&#039;re such a pain in the derriere, but you may have a good complaint here.  I&#039;d love to hear the point of view of one of the city leaders so that I&#039;d know if you&#039;re just interrupting good city business or if they were really trying to be sneaky with a lot of bad judgement.

EDITOR NOTE--The council has apparently agreed to hear my concerns at the public meeting Tuesday Sept. 30 at 6 p.m.  I invite you and anyone else to come and make your own judgement...even voice your opinion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Mr. Guardian&#8230;you&#8217;re such a pain in the derriere, but you may have a good complaint here.  I&#8217;d love to hear the point of view of one of the city leaders so that I&#8217;d know if you&#8217;re just interrupting good city business or if they were really trying to be sneaky with a lot of bad judgement.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;The council has apparently agreed to hear my concerns at the public meeting Tuesday Sept. 30 at 6 p.m.  I invite you and anyone else to come and make your own judgement&#8230;even voice your opinion.</p>
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		By: Clancy Anderson		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2008/09/26/lingering-land-deal-questions/#comment-9655</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clancy Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can&#039; t see why Boise would NEED that property. The listing agent seems to think that land is worth $541,000.
http://www.colliers.com/Content/Attachments/Boise/Industrial/CitationCourtSALEFlyer.pdf

The whole deal is fishy and I agree Boise should sell their land to buy new land.  No trades.  Failure to clearly answer any of the above questions should sink this deal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217; t see why Boise would NEED that property. The listing agent seems to think that land is worth $541,000.<br />
<a href="http://www.colliers.com/Content/Attachments/Boise/Industrial/CitationCourtSALEFlyer.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.colliers.com/Content/Attachments/Boise/Industrial/CitationCourtSALEFlyer.pdf</a></p>
<p>The whole deal is fishy and I agree Boise should sell their land to buy new land.  No trades.  Failure to clearly answer any of the above questions should sink this deal.</p>
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