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	Comments on: Council Bullys Eat GUARDIAN&#8217;S Lunch	</title>
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		By: Cyclops		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2008/09/30/council-bullies-eat-guardians-lunch/#comment-9702</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cyclops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 19:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And if the good Doc&#039;s are still having problems gaining financing for this deal, let me be the first to introduce the citizens of Boise to the brand, spanking new, &quot;Hole In The Ground West&quot;!! Many thanks to the mayor and 5 membetrs of the council for sheperding this through the system!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And if the good Doc&#8217;s are still having problems gaining financing for this deal, let me be the first to introduce the citizens of Boise to the brand, spanking new, &#8220;Hole In The Ground West&#8221;!! Many thanks to the mayor and 5 membetrs of the council for sheperding this through the system!</p>
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		By: The Boise Picayune		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2008/09/30/council-bullies-eat-guardians-lunch/#comment-9701</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Boise Picayune]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From The Idaho Statesman comes this bit of in depth, hard hitting reporting on the issue...

&quot;Edition Date: 10/02/08

The Boise City Council approved on Tuesday a land swap to get a new shooting range for the police department.

The deal swaps a city-owned parcel at 25th and Fairview for two other parcels, a shooting range on Mountain Cove Road in the Boise Foothills and another industrial site on Citation Place near Gowen Road.

The land deal is with a surgeons&#039; group planning the private Riverside Medical Center at 27th Street and Fairview Avenue.

The transaction is expected to close some time before Oct. 23.&quot;

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One wonder&#039;s why they even expended the ink!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From The Idaho Statesman comes this bit of in depth, hard hitting reporting on the issue&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Edition Date: 10/02/08</p>
<p>The Boise City Council approved on Tuesday a land swap to get a new shooting range for the police department.</p>
<p>The deal swaps a city-owned parcel at 25th and Fairview for two other parcels, a shooting range on Mountain Cove Road in the Boise Foothills and another industrial site on Citation Place near Gowen Road.</p>
<p>The land deal is with a surgeons&#8217; group planning the private Riverside Medical Center at 27th Street and Fairview Avenue.</p>
<p>The transaction is expected to close some time before Oct. 23.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>One wonder&#8217;s why they even expended the ink!</p>
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		By: Catch 22		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2008/09/30/council-bullies-eat-guardians-lunch/#comment-9700</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Catch 22]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 12:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Paul left out the critical part, Catch-22, when he said, &quot;No debate or discussion is needed on anything for any reason by anyone not in the loop.&quot;   

The trick is, they won&#039;t let you into the loop.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul left out the critical part, Catch-22, when he said, &#8220;No debate or discussion is needed on anything for any reason by anyone not in the loop.&#8221;   </p>
<p>The trick is, they won&#8217;t let you into the loop.</p>
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		By: paul		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2008/09/30/council-bullies-eat-guardians-lunch/#comment-9699</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 04:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dave, you are part of the un-washed masses.  The only thing the bully boys understand is decisions rendered by a judge.  

We have all been cut out of just about all of the capital budget decisions via urban renewal, over taxation (think Meridian City Hall), public private &quot;partnerships&quot; and all the other crap served up as what will be good for us.

Just pay your property taxes this December and be a nice boy and quit making noise.  

The boards, committees, councils etc are all stacked with &quot;yes people&quot;.  No debate or discussion is needed on anything for any reason by anyone not in the loop.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, you are part of the un-washed masses.  The only thing the bully boys understand is decisions rendered by a judge.  </p>
<p>We have all been cut out of just about all of the capital budget decisions via urban renewal, over taxation (think Meridian City Hall), public private &#8220;partnerships&#8221; and all the other crap served up as what will be good for us.</p>
<p>Just pay your property taxes this December and be a nice boy and quit making noise.  </p>
<p>The boards, committees, councils etc are all stacked with &#8220;yes people&#8221;.  No debate or discussion is needed on anything for any reason by anyone not in the loop.</p>
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		By: The Boise Picayune		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2008/09/30/council-bullies-eat-guardians-lunch/#comment-9698</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Boise Picayune]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[64.07% = 8.9% [conservatively]

Furthermore...

How could it be wrong to ask that our elected officials adhere to the spirit of the law, and provide for the utmost transparency.

Does the ends justify the means?

And what does it say about the status quo that laws are even needed to assure said transparency?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>64.07% = 8.9% [conservatively]</p>
<p>Furthermore&#8230;</p>
<p>How could it be wrong to ask that our elected officials adhere to the spirit of the law, and provide for the utmost transparency.</p>
<p>Does the ends justify the means?</p>
<p>And what does it say about the status quo that laws are even needed to assure said transparency?</p>
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		By: TJ		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2008/09/30/council-bullies-eat-guardians-lunch/#comment-9697</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eberle says people can use their property in any way they want?  Perhaps we can close the department of planning and zoning and save a bunch of money.

Perhaps someone will buy up that property between 27th and the Boise River and start farming it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eberle says people can use their property in any way they want?  Perhaps we can close the department of planning and zoning and save a bunch of money.</p>
<p>Perhaps someone will buy up that property between 27th and the Boise River and start farming it.</p>
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		By: dog		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2008/09/30/council-bullies-eat-guardians-lunch/#comment-9696</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 21:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Guardian, I guess you&#039;re either with them or against them. Join the ranks of &quot;terrorist&quot; citizen.
Sounds to me like they share Republican family values.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guardian, I guess you&#8217;re either with them or against them. Join the ranks of &#8220;terrorist&#8221; citizen.<br />
Sounds to me like they share Republican family values.</p>
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		By: Bravo Zulu		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2008/09/30/council-bullies-eat-guardians-lunch/#comment-9693</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bravo Zulu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 15:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Councilmembers don&#039;t get it. And they don&#039;t really need to.  If they are the incumbent the chances are they win reelection if they run. 

But this is no different than the rest of the world- our corporate leaders do whatever they want, regardless of the shareholders best interest.  Our local leaders are the same- they are in it for themselves.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Councilmembers don&#8217;t get it. And they don&#8217;t really need to.  If they are the incumbent the chances are they win reelection if they run. </p>
<p>But this is no different than the rest of the world- our corporate leaders do whatever they want, regardless of the shareholders best interest.  Our local leaders are the same- they are in it for themselves.</p>
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		By: 64.07%		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2008/09/30/council-bullies-eat-guardians-lunch/#comment-9692</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[64.07%]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 14:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[...or maybe you were just wrong.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;or maybe you were just wrong.</p>
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		By: boisecynic		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2008/09/30/council-bullies-eat-guardians-lunch/#comment-9691</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[boisecynic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Regarding picayunee&#039;s comment, I suggest this book; &quot;I Ain&#039;t Got Time To Bleed&quot; by Jesse Ventura.

Most know him as the former pro wrestler who became guv of Minnesota. Did you also know he was a Navy Seal? He was also Mayor of Brooklyn Park before becoming gov.

The chapters covering his time in Minneapolis suburb Brooklyn Park are very interesting. It&#039;s been a long time since I read it, but iirc, he put all meetings in Brooklyn Park on TV.

With the internet and digital video, the same could be done for the city of Boise, for relatively small amount of $. Relevant clips could be cropped out and posted right on this site, or youtube or even in the MSM.

EDITOR NOTE--Boise already has live video on Cable Channel 98 I believe. TVCC--or whatever the latest name is.  We simply don&#039;t have the time to view, edit, etc.  Sad part of our deal is they simply didn&#039;t want to hear the message.  Cut me off, bullied the assessor, and crowed about making a profit and having more land to play with in the future.  As another commenter noted, they don&#039;t have the same control in court.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding picayunee&#8217;s comment, I suggest this book; &#8220;I Ain&#8217;t Got Time To Bleed&#8221; by Jesse Ventura.</p>
<p>Most know him as the former pro wrestler who became guv of Minnesota. Did you also know he was a Navy Seal? He was also Mayor of Brooklyn Park before becoming gov.</p>
<p>The chapters covering his time in Minneapolis suburb Brooklyn Park are very interesting. It&#8217;s been a long time since I read it, but iirc, he put all meetings in Brooklyn Park on TV.</p>
<p>With the internet and digital video, the same could be done for the city of Boise, for relatively small amount of $. Relevant clips could be cropped out and posted right on this site, or youtube or even in the MSM.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Boise already has live video on Cable Channel 98 I believe. TVCC&#8211;or whatever the latest name is.  We simply don&#8217;t have the time to view, edit, etc.  Sad part of our deal is they simply didn&#8217;t want to hear the message.  Cut me off, bullied the assessor, and crowed about making a profit and having more land to play with in the future.  As another commenter noted, they don&#8217;t have the same control in court.</p>
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