Comments on: Ada Commishes Show Growthopbobe Traits

By: dog

dog — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:39:28 +0000

Roberto,
So if what you say is true, how come the outdoorsman in me can’t seem to find a pheasant to hunt anymore in this valley except at a pay to hunt bird lot? Is huntin up deals at Cabelas considered outdoorsmanshiping?

By: Rod in SE Boise

Rod in SE Boise — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:36:00 +0000

4300 homes? Why not just reject this application as un-doable, due to the recession, which will last at least through 2010. There is a staggering over-capacity of already approved subdivisions and lots in the area. It may take decades to use them up before any new subdivisions should be approved.

By: Tjw

Tjw — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:42:44 +0000

Roberto,

You seem to be saying two different things. In your first response you claim that residents thought of the foothills as worthless and no one cared about preserving them until developers started showing interest in them, and correspondingly, have either elected or have been forced to use conservation strategies in their developments. You seem to imply that developers have not only led this movement, but are the ones responsible for the foothills’ repair.

In your next comment you refine that thought by saying that “we” have learned better land stewardship practices, and then assume that none of us would be here and care without growth.

It’s not hard to spot the fallacies and disconnects in both comments. I do agree that as a society “we” better understand land stewardship, and that yeah, some developments have been somewhat progressive in their open space and native lands repair work. But I won’t make the stretch that development has lead the charge for the preservation and repair of the foothills, or of stewardship attitudes anywhere.

I simply find it hard to believe that you think that placing thousands of homes and roads up and down the foothills slopes’ is in any way a benefit to the land, vegetation, and wildlife there, simply because it has removed the grazing that might have once occurred there. I mean, that’s more than a little silly.

By: Blazing Saddle

Blazing Saddle — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:28:28 +0000

I always figured that towns is like fishin’ holes. Good ones is hard to find. And, if you find one, the last thing you want to do is tell some one about em. Soon’s you do, you will have to elbow your way past a herd of jamokes who have no appreciation for what they have destroyed by their mere presence. And, the fish will be long gone.

I lived here before it was a one horse town. It was a nice place, but a lot of people blabbed. We’ve got more horses now, and a lot more other stuff too. About the only thing I can see that’s better is the coffee, and the coffee is not good enough to make up for what’s been lost.

By: Tom Anderson

Tom Anderson — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 06:54:33 +0000

I’ve been visiting Boise for 44 years, moved here in 1990 for good, and it was a pretty sleepy little place in 1990. It took 3 tries for the phone company to hook up my phone, and customer service in stores was slow and sleepy to say the least. I LOVED IT!

I moved here from Orange County, CA. It used to be the best place in the world. When I moved here, it literally took 4 hours of crawling freeway traffic to leave town on a Friday afternoon.

Why must people think that the logical thing to do is grow, when growth always ends up changing the character of a place for the worse? What’s logical about that?

By: Cyclops

Cyclops — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 04:21:36 +0000

Roberto, I ain’t no tree hugger and ain’t really a growthaphobe. I am smart enough to know that 8 units per acre sucks no matter where it is! In addition, I sure ain’t no intellectual elite, and I don’t know what culture is. but I am aware enough that when someone says that the developers in this valley are the ones returning it to a “pristene” condition, they need transportation to St. Michaels (mental health ward) quickly!

By: Roberto

Roberto — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 02:04:16 +0000

Wildlife a hundred years ago didn’t much concern the pioneers and settlers of this valley. They were more concerned about eking out a living by tilling up the land and running their animals on it. Now that we are “enlightened” and environmentally aware of the importance of the ecosystem and all it parts, we are learning to be better stewards of the land. As an avid outdoorsman I have witnessed that animals, insects and plants generally stick to the unbuildable areas of the foothills. Migration corridors on the flat areas must be provided and preserved. I’m not saying that all the foothills developers will do everything perfect and I am sorry to hear when they muck it up. I guess I’m saying that many growthophobes can’t see past the blood squirting out of their eyes to see good things happening when they indeed are. I guess I’m saying that I see a lot of duplicity in the growthophobic position. You claim to be the intellectual elite and most cultured of all mankind, but your personal development has come to you because of growth and development of communities and society. If you want a sleepy little town without all the luxuries, this is not the place. Sleepy little towns have their charm, but most of you wouldn’t be here if this was a sleepy little town.

By: dog

dog — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:36:01 +0000

The Boise City planners have to fund the ponzi scheme they’ve built somehow. How else besides more property tax revenue will they pay rent and interest on loans for tax sheltered, privately owned, public infrastructure ?
Is there something in our water supply that keeps mutating moronitude?

By: Blazing Saddle

Blazing Saddle — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:55:18 +0000

Roberto, I am confused. How can it be bad for ag land when you cover it with houses, and not be bad for wild life when you cover their habitat with houses?

By: Clippityclop

Clippityclop — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:55:59 +0000

Roberto,
I have lived here for 45 years, not exactly a NIMBY transplant. What color is the sky in your world? Hidden Springs has been a horrible steward when it comes to noxious weed control and hasn’t even managed their orchard (marketing tool) well. Further, their grading of the 8th addition was criminal and destroyed Currant Creek. Wake up, mister! Foothills development is a tale of broken promises.