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		By: Cyclops		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 03:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great! Another task force!!!! Pontificating about everything, solving nothing!!!]]></description>
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		By: dog		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Most Americans, are willing to let someone else kiss their butts away.
But we&#039;ll bomb the crap out of them first because that is how we like to do it. Point fingers, blame, ask questions later, do it again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most Americans, are willing to let someone else kiss their butts away.<br />
But we&#8217;ll bomb the crap out of them first because that is how we like to do it. Point fingers, blame, ask questions later, do it again.</p>
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		By: Tom Anderson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I find it rather amazing the no other reader remembers the media articles that ran all over America talking about how we could not maintain paved roads when oil prices went above $50 per barrel.

Carol McKee, the president of ACHD remembers, ask her about this. We talked about it at length just a few months ago. She fully understands that the paved road is not long for this world.

Basing any future plans on the assumption that we will have smooth roads that will facilitate travel at speeds above 10 miles per hour is pure nonsense at this point.

Connect the dots folks. The world is running out of cheap oil, cheap oil is needed to maintain paved roads, paved roads are needed to ship food 1,500 miles to your local grocery store.

Without food, nobody is going to be thinking about buses, electric cars, iphones, or any other mythical future. When food gets scarce, people tear down and burn cities.

Expensive oil is not a gasoline problem, road maintenance problem, or an economic problem, it is a food problem. When food gets scarce, nothing else matters.

Tonight at 7pm, at the Boise City council chamber, there will be a meeting. It will be about this food problem. If you like food, I would encourage you to go. The wording makes it seem like an &#039;enviro&#039; meeting, but I assure you that the folks behind it would back up every word I&#039;ve said here. The city councils of Spokane, Oakland, Austin, Portland and many other cities across America have created a &quot;Peak Oil Task Force&quot; to deal with this issue. Tonights event is our first step into looking at how to survive a low energy future.

January 15, 7:00 – 8:30 pm.  Community Food Forum at the Boise City Hall Council Chambers.  “We are pleased to announce that Sustainable Community Connections of Idaho and the City of Boise will be sponsoring a Community Food Forum.  What is a sustainable local food system?  How do we prioritize what needs to be done?  What is a food shed?  What is a food inventory?  What are you doing and how can you help?  Please join us as we answer these questions and engage in conversation on the creation of a sustainable local food system.  Local experts will be gathering your feedback to establish priorities and set objectives for 2009.  There is no fee to attend the forum. Please RSVP to info@thinkboisefirst.org. Seating is limited.”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it rather amazing the no other reader remembers the media articles that ran all over America talking about how we could not maintain paved roads when oil prices went above $50 per barrel.</p>
<p>Carol McKee, the president of ACHD remembers, ask her about this. We talked about it at length just a few months ago. She fully understands that the paved road is not long for this world.</p>
<p>Basing any future plans on the assumption that we will have smooth roads that will facilitate travel at speeds above 10 miles per hour is pure nonsense at this point.</p>
<p>Connect the dots folks. The world is running out of cheap oil, cheap oil is needed to maintain paved roads, paved roads are needed to ship food 1,500 miles to your local grocery store.</p>
<p>Without food, nobody is going to be thinking about buses, electric cars, iphones, or any other mythical future. When food gets scarce, people tear down and burn cities.</p>
<p>Expensive oil is not a gasoline problem, road maintenance problem, or an economic problem, it is a food problem. When food gets scarce, nothing else matters.</p>
<p>Tonight at 7pm, at the Boise City council chamber, there will be a meeting. It will be about this food problem. If you like food, I would encourage you to go. The wording makes it seem like an &#8216;enviro&#8217; meeting, but I assure you that the folks behind it would back up every word I&#8217;ve said here. The city councils of Spokane, Oakland, Austin, Portland and many other cities across America have created a &#8220;Peak Oil Task Force&#8221; to deal with this issue. Tonights event is our first step into looking at how to survive a low energy future.</p>
<p>January 15, 7:00 – 8:30 pm.  Community Food Forum at the Boise City Hall Council Chambers.  “We are pleased to announce that Sustainable Community Connections of Idaho and the City of Boise will be sponsoring a Community Food Forum.  What is a sustainable local food system?  How do we prioritize what needs to be done?  What is a food shed?  What is a food inventory?  What are you doing and how can you help?  Please join us as we answer these questions and engage in conversation on the creation of a sustainable local food system.  Local experts will be gathering your feedback to establish priorities and set objectives for 2009.  There is no fee to attend the forum. Please RSVP to <a href="mailto:info@thinkboisefirst.org">info@thinkboisefirst.org</a>. Seating is limited.”</p>
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		By: boisecynic		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Back to the topic at hand, intercity bus and rail will not work at this point in time here in the west for reasons already outlined. And if no one else will say it I will, I DO NOT want to ride a bus with dirty stinking people. I&#039;d just as soon stay home.

If we are going to put our resources into anything, it should be hybrid electric vehicles. It is my opinion this offers the greatest bang for the buck. Not ordinary hybrids as most think of them, but sophisticated hybrids that can double as a power supply for your home. I&#039;ve read of certain people using their hybrids as backup generators for their homes. Think about it. Why would you need a car and a generator when the electrical cable recharging your plug-in hybrid could also work in reverse to power your home? I firmly believe a combination of solar, wind and battery technology and electronics could make a huge amount of suburban homes self-sufficient energy-wise at a reduced environmental impact. And more importantly, reduced dependence on foreign oil.  If I had the opportunity to go off the grid I would. Added bonus, maybe eventually we could take down all the ugly-ass power lines. 

Odd thing, in the never-ending rancor over pollution, overhead power lines never get mentioned. For one thing, considerable energy is lost transporting electricity long distances. Then there&#039;s the infrastructure cost. Don&#039;t forget, each utility pole is a mini toxic waste dump. And they are just plain ugly and a hazard to aviation. Those poles kill a number of drunk drivers every year too. :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to the topic at hand, intercity bus and rail will not work at this point in time here in the west for reasons already outlined. And if no one else will say it I will, I DO NOT want to ride a bus with dirty stinking people. I&#8217;d just as soon stay home.</p>
<p>If we are going to put our resources into anything, it should be hybrid electric vehicles. It is my opinion this offers the greatest bang for the buck. Not ordinary hybrids as most think of them, but sophisticated hybrids that can double as a power supply for your home. I&#8217;ve read of certain people using their hybrids as backup generators for their homes. Think about it. Why would you need a car and a generator when the electrical cable recharging your plug-in hybrid could also work in reverse to power your home? I firmly believe a combination of solar, wind and battery technology and electronics could make a huge amount of suburban homes self-sufficient energy-wise at a reduced environmental impact. And more importantly, reduced dependence on foreign oil.  If I had the opportunity to go off the grid I would. Added bonus, maybe eventually we could take down all the ugly-ass power lines. </p>
<p>Odd thing, in the never-ending rancor over pollution, overhead power lines never get mentioned. For one thing, considerable energy is lost transporting electricity long distances. Then there&#8217;s the infrastructure cost. Don&#8217;t forget, each utility pole is a mini toxic waste dump. And they are just plain ugly and a hazard to aviation. Those poles kill a number of drunk drivers every year too. 🙂</p>
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		By: boisecynic		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rod wrote: &quot;But, we wouldn’t be running out of everything, and the vast majority of people on earth wouldn’t be living in abject poverty if there were fewer of us chasing the available resources.&quot;

I think that&#039;s oversimplifying the situation. If there were fewer people, there would be fewer people available to extract the resources we need and want. Think of sailing in the open sea. There is always the horizon. No matter how far you sail, the horizon is still there and you cannot see beyond it.

Likewise with resources. One must negate the temporary effects of the business cycle in this thought experiment. Why should a business person, farmer-miner-rancher produce more than what the market can absorb? A pie chart, no matter how divided, is still a perfect circle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rod wrote: &#8220;But, we wouldn’t be running out of everything, and the vast majority of people on earth wouldn’t be living in abject poverty if there were fewer of us chasing the available resources.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s oversimplifying the situation. If there were fewer people, there would be fewer people available to extract the resources we need and want. Think of sailing in the open sea. There is always the horizon. No matter how far you sail, the horizon is still there and you cannot see beyond it.</p>
<p>Likewise with resources. One must negate the temporary effects of the business cycle in this thought experiment. Why should a business person, farmer-miner-rancher produce more than what the market can absorb? A pie chart, no matter how divided, is still a perfect circle.</p>
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		By: chet		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 06:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Frightening isn&#039;t it? Just look back over these comments. Find a way to stop people from reproducing, go back to the rail system, reduce axel weights and this jewel: kiss your butt goodbye because despite the fact that the country is only a couple hundred years old our resources will be gone in 20 years!
  We Americans are a greedy and ignorant people. We won&#039;t solve the energy crisis because we&#039;re too greedy. (Rod ain&#039;t givin up his truck for nobody) What our future holds is not fewer immigrants, its more immigrants. Look around. The Chinese could shut down our financial system tomorrow if they wanted to. French and German corporations own most of our water systems. American Water is owned by a German company!
Obviously, OPEC could shut us down if they wanted to and why do you think this situation exist? Because foreign investors know greedy Americans will pay, pay and keep paying, no matter how high the cost. Our economy isn&#039;t ours anymore ladies-gentlemen and in 50 years, our government probably won&#039;t be very similar to what it is today. Don&#039;t get me wrong, I love my country, I served in the military and I&#039;m glad I did. I just believe we have dug ourselves into a hole too deep to get out of alone. We let our political system become a rich boys club. We sit idly by while they slowly destroy the country, screw us at every turn, shun morality and work ethic and we are too busy feeding our greed to stop and try to regain control of our own destiny.
Happy New Year! :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frightening isn&#8217;t it? Just look back over these comments. Find a way to stop people from reproducing, go back to the rail system, reduce axel weights and this jewel: kiss your butt goodbye because despite the fact that the country is only a couple hundred years old our resources will be gone in 20 years!<br />
  We Americans are a greedy and ignorant people. We won&#8217;t solve the energy crisis because we&#8217;re too greedy. (Rod ain&#8217;t givin up his truck for nobody) What our future holds is not fewer immigrants, its more immigrants. Look around. The Chinese could shut down our financial system tomorrow if they wanted to. French and German corporations own most of our water systems. American Water is owned by a German company!<br />
Obviously, OPEC could shut us down if they wanted to and why do you think this situation exist? Because foreign investors know greedy Americans will pay, pay and keep paying, no matter how high the cost. Our economy isn&#8217;t ours anymore ladies-gentlemen and in 50 years, our government probably won&#8217;t be very similar to what it is today. Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I love my country, I served in the military and I&#8217;m glad I did. I just believe we have dug ourselves into a hole too deep to get out of alone. We let our political system become a rich boys club. We sit idly by while they slowly destroy the country, screw us at every turn, shun morality and work ethic and we are too busy feeding our greed to stop and try to regain control of our own destiny.<br />
Happy New Year! 🙂</p>
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		By: dog		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Our roads would last much longer if idaho didn&#039;t have some of the heaviest axel weights allowed in the nation. Thanks Idaho Republican Legislature.
I&#039;m with Tom on this one. We are doomed. This nation voted for George Bush twice! We have a severe lack of mental capacity. Americans always want the easy and cheap way out of the muddy trench we dig ourselves into.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our roads would last much longer if idaho didn&#8217;t have some of the heaviest axel weights allowed in the nation. Thanks Idaho Republican Legislature.<br />
I&#8217;m with Tom on this one. We are doomed. This nation voted for George Bush twice! We have a severe lack of mental capacity. Americans always want the easy and cheap way out of the muddy trench we dig ourselves into.</p>
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		By: Rod in SE Boise		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Shane - There isn&#039;t a solution to overpopulation?  Then just wait - nature will provide it&#039;s own solution for us, and it won&#039;t be any fun.  Tinkering with modes of transportation (AMBUS, or whatever) is like re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, if you look at the big picture.

Tom Anderson - No I haven&#039;t read that book.  I am currently reading a biography of Andrew Jackson.  You are right, we are running out of everything.  But, we wouldn&#039;t be running out of everything, and the vast majority of people on earth wouldn&#039;t be living in abject poverty if there were fewer of us chasing the available resources.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shane &#8211; There isn&#8217;t a solution to overpopulation?  Then just wait &#8211; nature will provide it&#8217;s own solution for us, and it won&#8217;t be any fun.  Tinkering with modes of transportation (AMBUS, or whatever) is like re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, if you look at the big picture.</p>
<p>Tom Anderson &#8211; No I haven&#8217;t read that book.  I am currently reading a biography of Andrew Jackson.  You are right, we are running out of everything.  But, we wouldn&#8217;t be running out of everything, and the vast majority of people on earth wouldn&#8217;t be living in abject poverty if there were fewer of us chasing the available resources.</p>
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		By: smitty		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 17:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cyclops nailed it this is not a question of technology but a question of geography.  As a former resident of San Francisco I can tell you that the reason mass transit works there is because A) The entire city is only 7 square miles and B) Dense population.  

The whole idea of any Mass Transit system being implemented in Boise, Idaho is a gigantic waste of money.  We are isolated 400 miles away from any other major population center... And our population is still very low and spread over a wide area.  Right now there is barely a good argument to have the existing bus system we have now in Boise.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cyclops nailed it this is not a question of technology but a question of geography.  As a former resident of San Francisco I can tell you that the reason mass transit works there is because A) The entire city is only 7 square miles and B) Dense population.  </p>
<p>The whole idea of any Mass Transit system being implemented in Boise, Idaho is a gigantic waste of money.  We are isolated 400 miles away from any other major population center&#8230; And our population is still very low and spread over a wide area.  Right now there is barely a good argument to have the existing bus system we have now in Boise.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 15:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow, another completely Unconstitutional idea.  But, the Federal Government has ignored the United States Constitution for most of a century now and we might as well just rip it up.

Do people not know that the Federal Government has no power to do this and most other things it does.  Oh, the public schools do not teach the Constitution anymore so I guess people don&#039;t know this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, another completely Unconstitutional idea.  But, the Federal Government has ignored the United States Constitution for most of a century now and we might as well just rip it up.</p>
<p>Do people not know that the Federal Government has no power to do this and most other things it does.  Oh, the public schools do not teach the Constitution anymore so I guess people don&#8217;t know this.</p>
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