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		By: dog		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/02/01/guardian-upbeat-views-from-vietnam/#comment-11262</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lib.Redneck,
Stop whining, you probably exist because some boomers had 15 min. of naked fun during the sexual revolution. Boomers had to live with the so called &quot;Greatest Generation&quot; political deciders willing to nuke the world because it was better being dead than red. Do you remember mutual mass destruction? Boomers also brought you &quot;Give a hoot, don&#039;t pollute&quot;, and a massive anti littering campaign that changed hearts and minds about tossing garbage out the car window. What makes your generation so hot?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lib.Redneck,<br />
Stop whining, you probably exist because some boomers had 15 min. of naked fun during the sexual revolution. Boomers had to live with the so called &#8220;Greatest Generation&#8221; political deciders willing to nuke the world because it was better being dead than red. Do you remember mutual mass destruction? Boomers also brought you &#8220;Give a hoot, don&#8217;t pollute&#8221;, and a massive anti littering campaign that changed hearts and minds about tossing garbage out the car window. What makes your generation so hot?</p>
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		By: dog		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/02/01/guardian-upbeat-views-from-vietnam/#comment-11258</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Roberto,
Do you ever think about what the RED STAR means beteen the words Wal and Mart?  

I suppose you also think that bombing the crap out of thousands of innocent people will change minds or bring them closer to Jesus?

Do you think Red Wing shoe company could make enough shoes for the US if we ever had a political upheaval with China?

Do you think American Capitalisim cares about American jobs, or if communist labor has freedom?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roberto,<br />
Do you ever think about what the RED STAR means beteen the words Wal and Mart?  </p>
<p>I suppose you also think that bombing the crap out of thousands of innocent people will change minds or bring them closer to Jesus?</p>
<p>Do you think Red Wing shoe company could make enough shoes for the US if we ever had a political upheaval with China?</p>
<p>Do you think American Capitalisim cares about American jobs, or if communist labor has freedom?</p>
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		By: Tom Anderson		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/02/01/guardian-upbeat-views-from-vietnam/#comment-11251</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 06:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cyclops: Your reservoir runeth over... Is there a point to your ranting? 

Hiding the truth about &#039;Peak Oil&#039; will only lead to the wholesale destruction of our city as it goes over an energy cliff. Is that what you want?

Why are you so anxious about someone who wants people to know the truth about our energy situation? Business owners cannot plan with oil prices fluctuating unpredictably. Do you want an economic collapse?

I hate to tell you this, but since the Boise City Government and the local media are such pathetic cowards about facing the &#039;Peak Oil&#039; issue, there is a group of seriously capable professionals that is going to deal with the problem head on.

We will run this city in a manner that will make it viable and successful in a low energy environment and all our useless officials have to do is try their best to keep the electricity and gas on, the water flowing, and stay out of our way.

You and your ilk can cling to the old economy as long as you want, but that ship is on its way to the bottom of the ocean.

As far as my imperical observations about the increase in black folks coinciding with our economic turmoil, it was just a thought. Calm down and try some deep breathing. Hatred can make you old and sick before your time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cyclops: Your reservoir runeth over&#8230; Is there a point to your ranting? </p>
<p>Hiding the truth about &#8216;Peak Oil&#8217; will only lead to the wholesale destruction of our city as it goes over an energy cliff. Is that what you want?</p>
<p>Why are you so anxious about someone who wants people to know the truth about our energy situation? Business owners cannot plan with oil prices fluctuating unpredictably. Do you want an economic collapse?</p>
<p>I hate to tell you this, but since the Boise City Government and the local media are such pathetic cowards about facing the &#8216;Peak Oil&#8217; issue, there is a group of seriously capable professionals that is going to deal with the problem head on.</p>
<p>We will run this city in a manner that will make it viable and successful in a low energy environment and all our useless officials have to do is try their best to keep the electricity and gas on, the water flowing, and stay out of our way.</p>
<p>You and your ilk can cling to the old economy as long as you want, but that ship is on its way to the bottom of the ocean.</p>
<p>As far as my imperical observations about the increase in black folks coinciding with our economic turmoil, it was just a thought. Calm down and try some deep breathing. Hatred can make you old and sick before your time.</p>
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		By: Cyclops		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cyclops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 19:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tom, let&#039;s be realistic! Your preaching about &quot;peak oil&quot; coupled with your questioning whether or not the &quot;white man&quot; has maneuvered blacks into being in charge during this recession in order to &quot;blame&quot; them is just plain dumb! You preach &quot;solutions&quot; but what do you offer? So far, it has been completely unrealistic and wishful thinking. Do you actually believe that the world will abandon an oil based economy before the last drop has been consumed? I hope not! I share your depression over that time in our history, with regard to Viet Nam, but I would wager for completely different reasons. Why do you think the price of crude dropped so fast? Simply because the consumer quit using so much. If we as a world could just drop our use of oil by 5% it would cause major price reductions in addition to what has happened so far. But, in the real world, you must know it won&#039;t happen! Humans are basically greedy. We are all over &quot;someone else&quot; changing &quot;their&quot; habits, but we are just fine. That applies to our actions in Viet Nam as well as our attitude toward oil consumption.
In addition, if you believe this whole &quot;election process&quot; was a huge conspiracy to blame the &quot;blacks&quot; for the economic problems we face, You are truly in need of professional help.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, let&#8217;s be realistic! Your preaching about &#8220;peak oil&#8221; coupled with your questioning whether or not the &#8220;white man&#8221; has maneuvered blacks into being in charge during this recession in order to &#8220;blame&#8221; them is just plain dumb! You preach &#8220;solutions&#8221; but what do you offer? So far, it has been completely unrealistic and wishful thinking. Do you actually believe that the world will abandon an oil based economy before the last drop has been consumed? I hope not! I share your depression over that time in our history, with regard to Viet Nam, but I would wager for completely different reasons. Why do you think the price of crude dropped so fast? Simply because the consumer quit using so much. If we as a world could just drop our use of oil by 5% it would cause major price reductions in addition to what has happened so far. But, in the real world, you must know it won&#8217;t happen! Humans are basically greedy. We are all over &#8220;someone else&#8221; changing &#8220;their&#8221; habits, but we are just fine. That applies to our actions in Viet Nam as well as our attitude toward oil consumption.<br />
In addition, if you believe this whole &#8220;election process&#8221; was a huge conspiracy to blame the &#8220;blacks&#8221; for the economic problems we face, You are truly in need of professional help.</p>
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		By: Paul		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/02/01/guardian-upbeat-views-from-vietnam/#comment-11248</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 19:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Note to lib redneck..

The Boomers had nothing to do with getting the USA involved in Vietnam.  It was largely a war fought with blue collar kids not in college.  If you weren&#039;t in college or rated 4-F you got your &quot;greetings from the president&quot; letter.  The choices were, enlist in a branch of the armed services and serve 4 years active, get drafted and serve two and take your chances where you ended up or bust a move to Canada and be a draft dodger.  I may have missed one or two more options but the bottom line is if you got a call up from the Selective Service you went and that was pretty much that.  College, Married males with kids and sole surviving male got some consideration until the draft went to a lottery system.  

The glitterati and high society boomers were able to dodge any duty in Vietnam via their connections.

Mr. lib redneck, please understand Blue Collar boomers were pawns in the war machine of the day during that troubling period in our history and more than 57,000 of us had their lives taken from them for this effort and hundreds of thousands more wear the scars both mental and physical from this war.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note to lib redneck..</p>
<p>The Boomers had nothing to do with getting the USA involved in Vietnam.  It was largely a war fought with blue collar kids not in college.  If you weren&#8217;t in college or rated 4-F you got your &#8220;greetings from the president&#8221; letter.  The choices were, enlist in a branch of the armed services and serve 4 years active, get drafted and serve two and take your chances where you ended up or bust a move to Canada and be a draft dodger.  I may have missed one or two more options but the bottom line is if you got a call up from the Selective Service you went and that was pretty much that.  College, Married males with kids and sole surviving male got some consideration until the draft went to a lottery system.  </p>
<p>The glitterati and high society boomers were able to dodge any duty in Vietnam via their connections.</p>
<p>Mr. lib redneck, please understand Blue Collar boomers were pawns in the war machine of the day during that troubling period in our history and more than 57,000 of us had their lives taken from them for this effort and hundreds of thousands more wear the scars both mental and physical from this war.</p>
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		By: Tom Anderson		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/02/01/guardian-upbeat-views-from-vietnam/#comment-11243</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 05:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cyclops: The only people who lose all credibility are those with no ideas of their own; but a reservoir of criticism for others ideas...

I suppose I should have said something insightful about Vietnam, but all I feel is a deep depression when thinking about that period in history. Someday we will either figure out how to behave like intelligent creatures, or we will cede the world stage to the cockroach.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cyclops: The only people who lose all credibility are those with no ideas of their own; but a reservoir of criticism for others ideas&#8230;</p>
<p>I suppose I should have said something insightful about Vietnam, but all I feel is a deep depression when thinking about that period in history. Someday we will either figure out how to behave like intelligent creatures, or we will cede the world stage to the cockroach.</p>
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		By: Cyclops		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/02/01/guardian-upbeat-views-from-vietnam/#comment-11242</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cyclops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 04:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Roberto, what Viet Nam has, or doesn&#039;t have, is of no importance to either of us. If the people of Viet Nam don&#039;t like their system enough, they will change it. Someone asked us to change it 40 years ago and look where that got us. I am amazed at just how many people in this country want us to be like someone else, while wanting someone else to be like us.
At what point did we start to believe that our&#039;s was the only way to exist, when we are but a pimple on the history of the world&#039;s rear end!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roberto, what Viet Nam has, or doesn&#8217;t have, is of no importance to either of us. If the people of Viet Nam don&#8217;t like their system enough, they will change it. Someone asked us to change it 40 years ago and look where that got us. I am amazed at just how many people in this country want us to be like someone else, while wanting someone else to be like us.<br />
At what point did we start to believe that our&#8217;s was the only way to exist, when we are but a pimple on the history of the world&#8217;s rear end!</p>
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		By: Clippityclop		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clippityclop]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 21:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Roberto,

I have one word for you:  COEXIST.

It&#039;s simple, when you think about it.  &quot;When will (you) ever learn?&quot; as the haunting refrain goes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roberto,</p>
<p>I have one word for you:  COEXIST.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s simple, when you think about it.  &#8220;When will (you) ever learn?&#8221; as the haunting refrain goes.</p>
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		By: Roberto		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roberto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 20:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mr. Guardian,

I seriously would like to know...

Does Vietnam have freedom of religion?

Does Vietnam have freedom of the press and free speech? Could you do there what you do here - object to gov&#039;t officials - and still live to tell about it?

Besides being a factory that makes things with cheap labor, what does Vietnam contribute to the world when it comes to technology, art, music, etc?  

I have lived under the assumption that &quot;free&quot; countries created an atmosphere the contributed far more to humanity than those countries that had socialist governments.  Is that assumption wrong?

It makes me nervous to see people so willing to welcome socialism and communism.

EDITOR NOTE-- Religion seems to be quite &quot;free&quot; with temples, pagodas, cathedrals abounding.  Not many believers in Jesus in that part of the world. Press is indeed limited under the communists.  In fact, I heard radio Hanoi being broadcast over speakers on utility posts in the countryside...sort of like getting all your news from the government propaganda people that work for Ada County, Boise City, and State of Idaho!  Also, the GUARDIAN wouldn&#039;t be able to operate in Vietnam and if local government had its way in Idaho we wouldn&#039;t be allowed here either!

You won&#039;t find a stronger defender of America, free press, or freedom of religion than the GUARDIAN.  Roberto, Vietnam is different--not necessarily better or worse.  However I also realize that with a history dating back 1100 B.C. it will take more space than I can devote to detail the contributions to mankind coming from what today is Vietnam.  You probably will hear from others on your comments.

Finally, there is a certain irony that Vietnam is more at peace (and probably freer) today than it has been in the past 100 years.  Also ironic that both commies and capitalists are pumping money into their respective economies.


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Guardian,</p>
<p>I seriously would like to know&#8230;</p>
<p>Does Vietnam have freedom of religion?</p>
<p>Does Vietnam have freedom of the press and free speech? Could you do there what you do here &#8211; object to gov&#8217;t officials &#8211; and still live to tell about it?</p>
<p>Besides being a factory that makes things with cheap labor, what does Vietnam contribute to the world when it comes to technology, art, music, etc?  </p>
<p>I have lived under the assumption that &#8220;free&#8221; countries created an atmosphere the contributed far more to humanity than those countries that had socialist governments.  Is that assumption wrong?</p>
<p>It makes me nervous to see people so willing to welcome socialism and communism.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211; Religion seems to be quite &#8220;free&#8221; with temples, pagodas, cathedrals abounding.  Not many believers in Jesus in that part of the world. Press is indeed limited under the communists.  In fact, I heard radio Hanoi being broadcast over speakers on utility posts in the countryside&#8230;sort of like getting all your news from the government propaganda people that work for Ada County, Boise City, and State of Idaho!  Also, the GUARDIAN wouldn&#8217;t be able to operate in Vietnam and if local government had its way in Idaho we wouldn&#8217;t be allowed here either!</p>
<p>You won&#8217;t find a stronger defender of America, free press, or freedom of religion than the GUARDIAN.  Roberto, Vietnam is different&#8211;not necessarily better or worse.  However I also realize that with a history dating back 1100 B.C. it will take more space than I can devote to detail the contributions to mankind coming from what today is Vietnam.  You probably will hear from others on your comments.</p>
<p>Finally, there is a certain irony that Vietnam is more at peace (and probably freer) today than it has been in the past 100 years.  Also ironic that both commies and capitalists are pumping money into their respective economies.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 19:58:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lib.Redneck says &quot;Now I have to pay the price for the Baby Boomers collective errors.&quot;

Yo Lib. It wasn&#039;t the Baby Boomers who got us into Vietnam. It was the Baby Boomers who got us out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lib.Redneck says &#8220;Now I have to pay the price for the Baby Boomers collective errors.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yo Lib. It wasn&#8217;t the Baby Boomers who got us into Vietnam. It was the Baby Boomers who got us out.</p>
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