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	Comments on: Biden Visit Prompts &#8220;Illegal Detainment&#8221;	</title>
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		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/02/21/biden-visit-prompts-illegal-detainment/#comment-11877</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 23:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ok Gordon maybe you are right, since the Secret Service has agents stationed in Boise I&#039;m sure they have been to Idaho City to cross country ski, cut Christmas tress and such...I was really addressing your made up story about them &#039;messing their pants&#039;..etc..maybe that happened in some movie you saw once]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok Gordon maybe you are right, since the Secret Service has agents stationed in Boise I&#8217;m sure they have been to Idaho City to cross country ski, cut Christmas tress and such&#8230;I was really addressing your made up story about them &#8216;messing their pants&#8217;..etc..maybe that happened in some movie you saw once</p>
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		By: Gordon		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/02/21/biden-visit-prompts-illegal-detainment/#comment-11831</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gordon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 03:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Naw, dog, I can&#039;t agree to that.
I don&#039;t think those people are smart enough to conspire; seems more likely they all just act on instinct.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Naw, dog, I can&#8217;t agree to that.<br />
I don&#8217;t think those people are smart enough to conspire; seems more likely they all just act on instinct.</p>
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		By: dog		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/02/21/biden-visit-prompts-illegal-detainment/#comment-11825</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 19:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Can&#039;t we just all agree that this is just another CONSPIRACY? Jeez people.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t we just all agree that this is just another CONSPIRACY? Jeez people.</p>
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		By: Gordon		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/02/21/biden-visit-prompts-illegal-detainment/#comment-11819</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gordon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Whatever: I dunno where you got those ideas. They cannot protect the person before he announces, but the minute he announces, he comes under Secret Service protection.
That&#039;s what the guys in the suits and dark glasses, with plugs in their ears and talking to their wrists, told us. And there ain&#039;t nobody else in Idaho City dressed like that!

As for saying, &quot;The Secret Service has never been to Idaho City,&quot; well, if that&#039;s correct, you must have a list of every place the Secret Service guys have ever been, huh? Would you mind showing it to me? I would suggest posting it here, but it must be several billion pages long by now.

Or, if you don&#039;t have it handy, perhaps you could ask for a copy by visiting the SS office at 
550 W Fort St # 732
Or writing to it at
550 W Fort St # 732
Boise, ID 83724
Or phoning it at
(208) 334-1403

Or did you think the Secret Service has never been to Boise? (Maybe they&#039;re more &quot;secret&quot; than I realized.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever: I dunno where you got those ideas. They cannot protect the person before he announces, but the minute he announces, he comes under Secret Service protection.<br />
That&#8217;s what the guys in the suits and dark glasses, with plugs in their ears and talking to their wrists, told us. And there ain&#8217;t nobody else in Idaho City dressed like that!</p>
<p>As for saying, &#8220;The Secret Service has never been to Idaho City,&#8221; well, if that&#8217;s correct, you must have a list of every place the Secret Service guys have ever been, huh? Would you mind showing it to me? I would suggest posting it here, but it must be several billion pages long by now.</p>
<p>Or, if you don&#8217;t have it handy, perhaps you could ask for a copy by visiting the SS office at<br />
550 W Fort St # 732<br />
Or writing to it at<br />
550 W Fort St # 732<br />
Boise, ID 83724<br />
Or phoning it at<br />
(208) 334-1403</p>
<p>Or did you think the Secret Service has never been to Boise? (Maybe they&#8217;re more &#8220;secret&#8221; than I realized.</p>
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		By: whatever		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/02/21/biden-visit-prompts-illegal-detainment/#comment-11798</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[whatever]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gordon,
You are full of it! The Secret Service has never been to Idaho City and they don&#039;t provide protective details for people just announcing their candidacy. Nor do they protect all senators. Nice yarn though]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gordon,<br />
You are full of it! The Secret Service has never been to Idaho City and they don&#8217;t provide protective details for people just announcing their candidacy. Nor do they protect all senators. Nice yarn though</p>
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		By: Cyclops		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/02/21/biden-visit-prompts-illegal-detainment/#comment-11785</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cyclops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 05:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The problem arose because VP Biden was late to the event. It was made abundantly clear that the morning session would have controls placed to insure his safety. Weather problems back east caused him to have to attend the afternoon session instead. One must remember that the Secret Service agents attached to him have but one mission. To insure that no harm comes to him on their watch! Do they go overboard? Probably. But they will always err on the side of safety. I was in the audience and yes, we were made to stand in line to get out until he cleared the building (about 20 minutes) No big deal. And as a side bar, Ogolley, I resent you referring to this as a &quot;rogue&quot; presidency. They won! Get over it! If they screw it up, it will be changed at the ballot box. Did you ever stop to think that maybe, just maybe, voices such as yours are the reason such extreme measures must be taken to insure the safety of our elected officials?
The bottom line here is that the event completely overshadowed any inconvenience that was suffered by the audience. To watch those skaters and witness their commitment to excel was truly inspiring and should remain the focus of the afternoon in discussion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem arose because VP Biden was late to the event. It was made abundantly clear that the morning session would have controls placed to insure his safety. Weather problems back east caused him to have to attend the afternoon session instead. One must remember that the Secret Service agents attached to him have but one mission. To insure that no harm comes to him on their watch! Do they go overboard? Probably. But they will always err on the side of safety. I was in the audience and yes, we were made to stand in line to get out until he cleared the building (about 20 minutes) No big deal. And as a side bar, Ogolley, I resent you referring to this as a &#8220;rogue&#8221; presidency. They won! Get over it! If they screw it up, it will be changed at the ballot box. Did you ever stop to think that maybe, just maybe, voices such as yours are the reason such extreme measures must be taken to insure the safety of our elected officials?<br />
The bottom line here is that the event completely overshadowed any inconvenience that was suffered by the audience. To watch those skaters and witness their commitment to excel was truly inspiring and should remain the focus of the afternoon in discussion.</p>
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		By: Sara		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/02/21/biden-visit-prompts-illegal-detainment/#comment-11782</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 00:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How about what happened in Oklahoma?  A man had a sign that was not flattering to Obama, I believe it said, Abort Obama.  

The police confiscated the sign, detained him, and then the Secret Service searched his house.  

They have returned the sign, indicating that, uh, this was like free speech and should never have been taken.  Don&#039;t think the SS apologized however.

Personally, I think this guy should sue.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about what happened in Oklahoma?  A man had a sign that was not flattering to Obama, I believe it said, Abort Obama.  </p>
<p>The police confiscated the sign, detained him, and then the Secret Service searched his house.  </p>
<p>They have returned the sign, indicating that, uh, this was like free speech and should never have been taken.  Don&#8217;t think the SS apologized however.</p>
<p>Personally, I think this guy should sue.</p>
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		By: dog		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/02/21/biden-visit-prompts-illegal-detainment/#comment-11780</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 00:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Perhaps the SS wanted everyone locked in so they could catch a perp wanting to shoot the VP.

Seems reasonable to me being this is Idaho and all. The VP probably has more nutcase Democrat haters (with guns and CC permits) here in Idaho than in any other state. In these situations the VIP usually enters the the lock-down and leaves before the public can exit.

If you think what happened at the arena is bad try being at an airport when US 1 is about to land!

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the SS wanted everyone locked in so they could catch a perp wanting to shoot the VP.</p>
<p>Seems reasonable to me being this is Idaho and all. The VP probably has more nutcase Democrat haters (with guns and CC permits) here in Idaho than in any other state. In these situations the VIP usually enters the the lock-down and leaves before the public can exit.</p>
<p>If you think what happened at the arena is bad try being at an airport when US 1 is about to land!</p>
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		By: Clancy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/02/21/biden-visit-prompts-illegal-detainment/#comment-11772</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clancy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[While I agree that this seems odd not allowing people to exit, maybe there was a reason.  Was that the policy from the start?  or did that policy occur  &quot;on the fly&quot; with some information or situation only know to the Secret Service?  Boise Police should be able to answer those 2 question with a &quot;yes&quot; or &quot;no&quot; without breaking protocol especially after the event.  Answers would then determine if this was illegal.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree that this seems odd not allowing people to exit, maybe there was a reason.  Was that the policy from the start?  or did that policy occur  &#8220;on the fly&#8221; with some information or situation only know to the Secret Service?  Boise Police should be able to answer those 2 question with a &#8220;yes&#8221; or &#8220;no&#8221; without breaking protocol especially after the event.  Answers would then determine if this was illegal.</p>
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		By: OGolly		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OGolly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with the writer.  Constitutionally the government has an obligation to show reasonable cause before any individual can be detained for any reason, and only by court order.  If the SS felt people needed to be herded like cattle, then they should have obtained a valid court order from a LOCAL judge before the event.  If they cannot obtain such an order, then they can elect to cancel the event.  Personally, Biden is not worth *any* inconvenience on my part.

Those who favor being herded around like sheep by a rogue government for the sake of &quot;safety&quot; expose themselves as what they truly are -  frightened sheep.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the writer.  Constitutionally the government has an obligation to show reasonable cause before any individual can be detained for any reason, and only by court order.  If the SS felt people needed to be herded like cattle, then they should have obtained a valid court order from a LOCAL judge before the event.  If they cannot obtain such an order, then they can elect to cancel the event.  Personally, Biden is not worth *any* inconvenience on my part.</p>
<p>Those who favor being herded around like sheep by a rogue government for the sake of &#8220;safety&#8221; expose themselves as what they truly are &#8211;  frightened sheep.</p>
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