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		By: Blazing Saddle		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/03/06/commishes-nix-chamber-cash/#comment-12042</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blazing Saddle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Now heres a conundrum I been ponderin out on my horse.  Most people in dear ol Ideeehoho tend to think that just about anyone in business is a whole lot smarter than anyone in the government.  

At the same time, a lot of people on this here blog, and everyone at BVEP, seem to think the government needs to run a recruitment program to lure, entice, to educate, bamboozle, you name it, far away businesses to move to our little chunk of paradise. 

My conundrum is this:  If businesses are so smart, what is our marketing program going to tell them that they don&#039;t already know?  And, if they are too stupid to know about us, why on earth would we want them to move here?  Either way, the marketing money looks like a waste.  

I say, save the money for something better.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now heres a conundrum I been ponderin out on my horse.  Most people in dear ol Ideeehoho tend to think that just about anyone in business is a whole lot smarter than anyone in the government.  </p>
<p>At the same time, a lot of people on this here blog, and everyone at BVEP, seem to think the government needs to run a recruitment program to lure, entice, to educate, bamboozle, you name it, far away businesses to move to our little chunk of paradise. </p>
<p>My conundrum is this:  If businesses are so smart, what is our marketing program going to tell them that they don&#8217;t already know?  And, if they are too stupid to know about us, why on earth would we want them to move here?  Either way, the marketing money looks like a waste.  </p>
<p>I say, save the money for something better.</p>
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		By: Wonk Vader		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/03/06/commishes-nix-chamber-cash/#comment-12037</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wonk Vader]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:06:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m disappointed at the drop in contributions. For those of us who earn our living locally, a healthy business climate is important. BVEP does important work in trying to attract businesses here and keep the ones we have.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m disappointed at the drop in contributions. For those of us who earn our living locally, a healthy business climate is important. BVEP does important work in trying to attract businesses here and keep the ones we have.</p>
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		By: Tom Anderson		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/03/06/commishes-nix-chamber-cash/#comment-12034</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[ATTENTION: Business men and women. Your financial GOD has spoken...

Infinite growth on a finite planet is going in history&#039;s dustbin of stupid ideas.

The Inflection Is Near?

By Thomas L. Friedman
March 7, 2009

... Let’s today step out of the normal boundaries of analysis of our economic crisis and ask a radical question: What if the crisis of 2008 represents something much more fundamental than a deep recession? What if it’s telling us that the whole growth model we created over the last 50 years is simply unsustainable economically and ecologically and that 2008 was when we hit the wall — when Mother Nature and the market both said: “No more.”

We have created a system for growth that depended on our building more and more stores to sell more and more stuff made in more and more factories in China, powered by more and more coal that would cause more and more climate change but earn China more and more dollars to buy more and more U.S. T-bills so America would have more and more money to build more and more stores and sell more and more stuff that would employ more and more Chinese ...

We can’t do this anymore.

“We created a way of raising standards of living that we can’t possibly pass on to our children,” said Joe Romm, a physicist and climate expert who writes the indispensable blog climateprogress.org. We have been getting rich by depleting all our natural stocks — water, hydrocarbons, forests, rivers, fish and arable land — and not by generating renewable flows.

“You can get this burst of wealth that we have created from this rapacious behavior,” added Romm. “But it has to collapse, unless adults stand up and say, ‘This is a Ponzi scheme. We have not generated real wealth, and we are destroying a livable climate ...’ Real wealth is something you can pass on in a way that others can enjoy.”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ATTENTION: Business men and women. Your financial GOD has spoken&#8230;</p>
<p>Infinite growth on a finite planet is going in history&#8217;s dustbin of stupid ideas.</p>
<p>The Inflection Is Near?</p>
<p>By Thomas L. Friedman<br />
March 7, 2009</p>
<p>&#8230; Let’s today step out of the normal boundaries of analysis of our economic crisis and ask a radical question: What if the crisis of 2008 represents something much more fundamental than a deep recession? What if it’s telling us that the whole growth model we created over the last 50 years is simply unsustainable economically and ecologically and that 2008 was when we hit the wall — when Mother Nature and the market both said: “No more.”</p>
<p>We have created a system for growth that depended on our building more and more stores to sell more and more stuff made in more and more factories in China, powered by more and more coal that would cause more and more climate change but earn China more and more dollars to buy more and more U.S. T-bills so America would have more and more money to build more and more stores and sell more and more stuff that would employ more and more Chinese &#8230;</p>
<p>We can’t do this anymore.</p>
<p>“We created a way of raising standards of living that we can’t possibly pass on to our children,” said Joe Romm, a physicist and climate expert who writes the indispensable blog climateprogress.org. We have been getting rich by depleting all our natural stocks — water, hydrocarbons, forests, rivers, fish and arable land — and not by generating renewable flows.</p>
<p>“You can get this burst of wealth that we have created from this rapacious behavior,” added Romm. “But it has to collapse, unless adults stand up and say, ‘This is a Ponzi scheme. We have not generated real wealth, and we are destroying a livable climate &#8230;’ Real wealth is something you can pass on in a way that others can enjoy.”</p>
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		By: Mike Murphy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/03/06/commishes-nix-chamber-cash/#comment-12023</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Murphy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 05:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dearest Mr. Anderson,

&quot;Progrowth should move to New York City or Los Angeles if he/she/it wants to live shoulder to shoulder with the unwashed masses and choke on industrial fumes and automobile exhaust.&quot;

New York CITY has more people than Alaska, New Mexico, Idaho, Hawaii, Montana, Wyoming and Nevada COMBINED.  There are more people living on Manhattan Island than in the entire State of Idaho.  Yet 3/4 of New York STATE is State Forests, and per capita New York CITY is very often safer and cleaner than Boise.

Now, L.A. is another story...

As far as the $70,000?

Somehow I suspect some of the stimulus money Boise&#039;s getting [ http://www.cityofboise.org/Departments/Mayor/Stimulus/index.aspx ] that is earmarked for &quot;Community Development&quot; will find it&#039;s way to he Chamber of Commerce’s “Treasure Valley Partnership”.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dearest Mr. Anderson,</p>
<p>&#8220;Progrowth should move to New York City or Los Angeles if he/she/it wants to live shoulder to shoulder with the unwashed masses and choke on industrial fumes and automobile exhaust.&#8221;</p>
<p>New York CITY has more people than Alaska, New Mexico, Idaho, Hawaii, Montana, Wyoming and Nevada COMBINED.  There are more people living on Manhattan Island than in the entire State of Idaho.  Yet 3/4 of New York STATE is State Forests, and per capita New York CITY is very often safer and cleaner than Boise.</p>
<p>Now, L.A. is another story&#8230;</p>
<p>As far as the $70,000?</p>
<p>Somehow I suspect some of the stimulus money Boise&#8217;s getting [ <a href="http://www.cityofboise.org/Departments/Mayor/Stimulus/index.aspx" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.cityofboise.org/Departments/Mayor/Stimulus/index.aspx</a> ] that is earmarked for &#8220;Community Development&#8221; will find it&#8217;s way to he Chamber of Commerce’s “Treasure Valley Partnership”.</p>
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		By: costaprettypenny		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/03/06/commishes-nix-chamber-cash/#comment-12022</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[costaprettypenny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 05:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cy, looking at the issue with only one eye kind of limits one’s perspective. Come to the next BVEP meeting (they are open to the public). Then comment on progress or lack there of. Call the Boise Metro Chamber as to when the next meeting is scheduled. But before you go, take a look at their Web site (http://www.bvep.org/). The site contains valuable information for any company whether they currently are doing business here or they are considering relocating to the area. They also have a quick response team that can meet in person with a prospective business prospect.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cy, looking at the issue with only one eye kind of limits one’s perspective. Come to the next BVEP meeting (they are open to the public). Then comment on progress or lack there of. Call the Boise Metro Chamber as to when the next meeting is scheduled. But before you go, take a look at their Web site (<a href="http://www.bvep.org/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.bvep.org/</a>). The site contains valuable information for any company whether they currently are doing business here or they are considering relocating to the area. They also have a quick response team that can meet in person with a prospective business prospect.</p>
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		By: Bill Smith		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/03/06/commishes-nix-chamber-cash/#comment-12021</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 05:33:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Overdue&quot; is right. The money should first be spent on things like education, tech, etc so we can attract businesses.  I have been intimately involved with the BVEP snafooo. A large amount of money has been pissed down the toilet to pay for a national marketing and pr firm and a local (overpriced) pr advertising firm.  The national firm has gotten some results in terms of media coverage, but none of it has resulted in much. The local firm has done little to nothing (as per the results), but the guy who owns the firm threw a hissy fit when he wasn&#039;t included in the work so Paul Hiller threw him a bone to keep the guy&#039;s mouth shut.  The reason he wasn&#039;t selected in the first place is apparent now.  No results and a lot of cash down the crapper.  Summary: A lot of wasted money on fluff, not enough spent on what matters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Overdue&#8221; is right. The money should first be spent on things like education, tech, etc so we can attract businesses.  I have been intimately involved with the BVEP snafooo. A large amount of money has been pissed down the toilet to pay for a national marketing and pr firm and a local (overpriced) pr advertising firm.  The national firm has gotten some results in terms of media coverage, but none of it has resulted in much. The local firm has done little to nothing (as per the results), but the guy who owns the firm threw a hissy fit when he wasn&#8217;t included in the work so Paul Hiller threw him a bone to keep the guy&#8217;s mouth shut.  The reason he wasn&#8217;t selected in the first place is apparent now.  No results and a lot of cash down the crapper.  Summary: A lot of wasted money on fluff, not enough spent on what matters.</p>
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		By: Cyclops		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/03/06/commishes-nix-chamber-cash/#comment-12020</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cyclops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 03:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Costaprettypenney, let me take this down to what I consider the basics. Success is meaured by results. Way too many dollars were given for no discernible results. You can moan about the pulling of funding by the short sighted commission, but you certainly couldn&#039;t complain about being &quot;released&quot; due to poor performance and no results. The Chamber wasted a bunch of our money!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Costaprettypenney, let me take this down to what I consider the basics. Success is meaured by results. Way too many dollars were given for no discernible results. You can moan about the pulling of funding by the short sighted commission, but you certainly couldn&#8217;t complain about being &#8220;released&#8221; due to poor performance and no results. The Chamber wasted a bunch of our money!!!</p>
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		By: Tom Anderson		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/03/06/commishes-nix-chamber-cash/#comment-12019</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Progrowth should move to New York City or Los Angeles if he/she/it wants to live shoulder to shoulder with the unwashed masses and choke on industrial fumes and automobile exhaust.

The only thing more &#039;growth&#039; would do is to allow those who were foolish enough to buy land recently to not lose their shirt and end up living in a van down by the river.

Progrowth people are just passin&#039; through on their way to destroy another formerly great place to live.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Progrowth should move to New York City or Los Angeles if he/she/it wants to live shoulder to shoulder with the unwashed masses and choke on industrial fumes and automobile exhaust.</p>
<p>The only thing more &#8216;growth&#8217; would do is to allow those who were foolish enough to buy land recently to not lose their shirt and end up living in a van down by the river.</p>
<p>Progrowth people are just passin&#8217; through on their way to destroy another formerly great place to live.</p>
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		By: Robert		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/03/06/commishes-nix-chamber-cash/#comment-12018</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Idaho needs to take the stand. If you want to live here then pay your fair share of Taxes. Anytime you give all these busniness tax break to make them come here,then they will leave as soon as a better offer comes there way. Is this thinking so wrong?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Idaho needs to take the stand. If you want to live here then pay your fair share of Taxes. Anytime you give all these busniness tax break to make them come here,then they will leave as soon as a better offer comes there way. Is this thinking so wrong?</p>
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		By: progrowth		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/03/06/commishes-nix-chamber-cash/#comment-12016</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[progrowth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 17:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tom Anderson should move to Melba, Arco, or Ashton if he wants fewer people and even lower economic growth.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Anderson should move to Melba, Arco, or Ashton if he wants fewer people and even lower economic growth.</p>
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