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		By: dog		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/04/20/farmers-market-unlikely-despite-citizen-pleas/#comment-12986</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 22:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with B.A.T.  Idaho is a dangerous environment for pedestrians, children, and the disabled. Do your homework before moving here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with B.A.T.  Idaho is a dangerous environment for pedestrians, children, and the disabled. Do your homework before moving here.</p>
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		By: B.A.T		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/04/20/farmers-market-unlikely-despite-citizen-pleas/#comment-12726</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[B.A.T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 00:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Has anybody bothered to take a look   at the area of 30th and Main on a Saturday?  Seems like a lot of traffic is already parking there from the Boise auction.  Lots of high speed traffic will promote a dangerous environment for pedestrians, children and the disabled.  Do your homework before you suggest this site.

Boisecynic asked about the fence that just went up on the lot.  I believe that they will be storing some of the new garbage containers there until June.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anybody bothered to take a look   at the area of 30th and Main on a Saturday?  Seems like a lot of traffic is already parking there from the Boise auction.  Lots of high speed traffic will promote a dangerous environment for pedestrians, children and the disabled.  Do your homework before you suggest this site.</p>
<p>Boisecynic asked about the fence that just went up on the lot.  I believe that they will be storing some of the new garbage containers there until June.</p>
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		By: Mike Murphy for Mayor		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/04/20/farmers-market-unlikely-despite-citizen-pleas/#comment-12692</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Murphy for Mayor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[1.  That&#039;s why &quot;she&quot; was named as Karen with a question mark.

2.  It&#039;s not the &quot;Farmer&#039;s Market&quot;, it&#039;s now called the &quot; Capital City Public Market &quot; (Capital, not Capitol.  Freudian slip?).  Which - by the way - is not registered with the Idaho Secretary of State.

3.  Ah yes.  Deniabilty.  While it may not be &quot;run&quot; by the CCDC/DBA, it is most certainly run by them (and they &quot;own&quot; the street).  Please spare us the semantics!

4.  There are the facts, and then there is the truth.  The &quot;facts&quot; are rarely what they seem.  Especially when you&#039;re talking about Boise&#039;s Shadow Government.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.  That&#8217;s why &#8220;she&#8221; was named as Karen with a question mark.</p>
<p>2.  It&#8217;s not the &#8220;Farmer&#8217;s Market&#8221;, it&#8217;s now called the &#8221; Capital City Public Market &#8221; (Capital, not Capitol.  Freudian slip?).  Which &#8211; by the way &#8211; is not registered with the Idaho Secretary of State.</p>
<p>3.  Ah yes.  Deniabilty.  While it may not be &#8220;run&#8221; by the CCDC/DBA, it is most certainly run by them (and they &#8220;own&#8221; the street).  Please spare us the semantics!</p>
<p>4.  There are the facts, and then there is the truth.  The &#8220;facts&#8221; are rarely what they seem.  Especially when you&#8217;re talking about Boise&#8217;s Shadow Government.</p>
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		By: facts		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/04/20/farmers-market-unlikely-despite-citizen-pleas/#comment-12691</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[facts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just wanted to comment on mistaken identy, there is in fact a Karen Sander who is with the Downtown Boise Association and a Karen Ellis who runs the market, they are in fact two different people. I wish when people comment they would at least have the facts. Also the farmer market is not run in any way by the DBA.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to comment on mistaken identy, there is in fact a Karen Sander who is with the Downtown Boise Association and a Karen Ellis who runs the market, they are in fact two different people. I wish when people comment they would at least have the facts. Also the farmer market is not run in any way by the DBA.</p>
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		By: Mike Murphy for Mayor		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/04/20/farmers-market-unlikely-despite-citizen-pleas/#comment-12668</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Murphy for Mayor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 14:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“...if you want a farmers market, make it happen. If you want promotions for downtown, say so.&quot;

That&#039;s why they&#039;ve stopped calling it a &quot;Framer&#039;s Market&quot; and hold it on &quot;their&quot; &quot;private&quot; street and the Grove (also &quot;private&quot; / Gbad).

Karen/DBA and Max/CCDC also could care less about input from the merchants affected.  Just ask the merchants on the West Side of the street (like Dawson&#039;s Coffee) who have had to contend with the ass end of the booths forever, how cooperative those two are about alternating placements so all can benefit.

National Chains and Krick, Inc (who sits on the CCDC board) on the East Side of Street, and little locals on the West Side.

YOU do the math! 

Regardless...

What a great way to spend an early Saturday Morning.  Cuppa cawfee from Dawson&#039;s, shortbread from Zeppole&#039;s and my favorite bench to watch a sleepy corner of our world come alive.

And the &quot;Berry People&quot; who stand in line for hours like they&#039;re waiting for Ramones tickets.

It&#039;s a feast for the senses!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“&#8230;if you want a farmers market, make it happen. If you want promotions for downtown, say so.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why they&#8217;ve stopped calling it a &#8220;Framer&#8217;s Market&#8221; and hold it on &#8220;their&#8221; &#8220;private&#8221; street and the Grove (also &#8220;private&#8221; / Gbad).</p>
<p>Karen/DBA and Max/CCDC also could care less about input from the merchants affected.  Just ask the merchants on the West Side of the street (like Dawson&#8217;s Coffee) who have had to contend with the ass end of the booths forever, how cooperative those two are about alternating placements so all can benefit.</p>
<p>National Chains and Krick, Inc (who sits on the CCDC board) on the East Side of Street, and little locals on the West Side.</p>
<p>YOU do the math! </p>
<p>Regardless&#8230;</p>
<p>What a great way to spend an early Saturday Morning.  Cuppa cawfee from Dawson&#8217;s, shortbread from Zeppole&#8217;s and my favorite bench to watch a sleepy corner of our world come alive.</p>
<p>And the &#8220;Berry People&#8221; who stand in line for hours like they&#8217;re waiting for Ramones tickets.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a feast for the senses!</p>
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		By: boisecynic		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[boisecynic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 12:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Has anyone noticed the new chain link fence that has gone up around part of the lot at 30th and Fairview? What&#039;s up with that?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone noticed the new chain link fence that has gone up around part of the lot at 30th and Fairview? What&#8217;s up with that?</p>
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		By: James		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/04/20/farmers-market-unlikely-despite-citizen-pleas/#comment-12658</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 01:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All those farmer&#039;s market photos are from 3rd World countries.
Is that a backhanded shot at the city of Boise?
If not, it should be...

EDITOR NOTE--First one is from Seattle and the others are all over the world as you note.  I guess the message is, &quot;if you want a farmers market, make it happen.  If you want promotions for downtown, say so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All those farmer&#8217;s market photos are from 3rd World countries.<br />
Is that a backhanded shot at the city of Boise?<br />
If not, it should be&#8230;</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;First one is from Seattle and the others are all over the world as you note.  I guess the message is, &#8220;if you want a farmers market, make it happen.  If you want promotions for downtown, say so.</p>
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		By: Cyclops		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cyclops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you want to see some outstanding young people and what they have done to draw attention to our use of plastic, drop by the Shadow Hills Elementary School tomorrow at 1:30. They collected the shopping bags from grade schools all over the city for ONE WEEK! These are the bags in which families  bring home their groceries. There are TWO, ONE THOUSAND POUND BALES of them! A very effective visual!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to see some outstanding young people and what they have done to draw attention to our use of plastic, drop by the Shadow Hills Elementary School tomorrow at 1:30. They collected the shopping bags from grade schools all over the city for ONE WEEK! These are the bags in which families  bring home their groceries. There are TWO, ONE THOUSAND POUND BALES of them! A very effective visual!</p>
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		By: Serendipity		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Serendipity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 21:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I agree with whoever said &quot;yuppy&#039;s market&quot; for the Sat 8th St downtown deal, and with Dog about the Coop, which is a farce--it is distinctly NOT a co-op, and it&#039;s even more of a yuppy market due to its out of sight price habits. Anything sold on SALE there isn&#039;t worth buying--that&#039;s why it&#039;s on sale!

As for the Tahiti example--notice all the plastic wrap. At least in Sat&#039;s. market in BOI, the use of plastic is kept to a minimum. In Thailand and India, increasingly plastic is being downgraded if not ousted, because animals were dying from ingesting food-contaminated plastic--e.g., India&#039;s wandering sacred cattle. 
In Laos, market plastic crap is ruining canals and wetlands, not to leave out roadsides full of it.They havent&#039; caught on there, yet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with whoever said &#8220;yuppy&#8217;s market&#8221; for the Sat 8th St downtown deal, and with Dog about the Coop, which is a farce&#8211;it is distinctly NOT a co-op, and it&#8217;s even more of a yuppy market due to its out of sight price habits. Anything sold on SALE there isn&#8217;t worth buying&#8211;that&#8217;s why it&#8217;s on sale!</p>
<p>As for the Tahiti example&#8211;notice all the plastic wrap. At least in Sat&#8217;s. market in BOI, the use of plastic is kept to a minimum. In Thailand and India, increasingly plastic is being downgraded if not ousted, because animals were dying from ingesting food-contaminated plastic&#8211;e.g., India&#8217;s wandering sacred cattle.<br />
In Laos, market plastic crap is ruining canals and wetlands, not to leave out roadsides full of it.They havent&#8217; caught on there, yet.</p>
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		By: dog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I bet Winco, Albertsons and the Boise CoOp (in name only, ha it&#039;s a membership club) are part of the DBA and well connected with the CCDC. They certianly don&#039;t want to see a real viable farmers market or a bazaar forming in Boise.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bet Winco, Albertsons and the Boise CoOp (in name only, ha it&#8217;s a membership club) are part of the DBA and well connected with the CCDC. They certianly don&#8217;t want to see a real viable farmers market or a bazaar forming in Boise.</p>
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