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		By: Brig		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/06/23/bicycle-nerd-survives-on-attention/#comment-13725</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brig]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;I lived in college community and if you didn’t stop at stop signs by putting one foot down, if you rode on wrong side of the street, or if you didn’t ride in the bike lane, $50 ticket for each one. Most folks learned very quickly.&quot;

I like this and I&#039;m a cyclist. It irks me to no end when I see a spandex pack on Hill Road riding two abreast and mostly NOT in the bike lane. They&#039;re all chatting and only paying attention to the cyclist directly in front of them. They are very difficult to drive around, even on the relatively wide sections of the road.

Come on, my spandex friends, ride single file on these busy roads. When you get out beyond the crazy streets, feel free to go two abreast. BUT like the guy out front who uses hand signals to warn the pack of road hazards ahead, the guy in back should use a whistle to warn the pack of the approaching cars so everyone can split to single file until the cars pass. 

It&#039;s not rocket science. Keep riding and stay safe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I lived in college community and if you didn’t stop at stop signs by putting one foot down, if you rode on wrong side of the street, or if you didn’t ride in the bike lane, $50 ticket for each one. Most folks learned very quickly.&#8221;</p>
<p>I like this and I&#8217;m a cyclist. It irks me to no end when I see a spandex pack on Hill Road riding two abreast and mostly NOT in the bike lane. They&#8217;re all chatting and only paying attention to the cyclist directly in front of them. They are very difficult to drive around, even on the relatively wide sections of the road.</p>
<p>Come on, my spandex friends, ride single file on these busy roads. When you get out beyond the crazy streets, feel free to go two abreast. BUT like the guy out front who uses hand signals to warn the pack of road hazards ahead, the guy in back should use a whistle to warn the pack of the approaching cars so everyone can split to single file until the cars pass. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not rocket science. Keep riding and stay safe.</p>
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		By: oboy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/06/23/bicycle-nerd-survives-on-attention/#comment-13561</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 13:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I lived in college community and if you didn&#039;t stop at stop signs by putting one foot down, if you rode on wrong side of the street, or if you didn&#039;t ride in the bike lane, $50 ticket for each one.  Most folks learned very quickly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lived in college community and if you didn&#8217;t stop at stop signs by putting one foot down, if you rode on wrong side of the street, or if you didn&#8217;t ride in the bike lane, $50 ticket for each one.  Most folks learned very quickly.</p>
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		By: Bob T		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/06/23/bicycle-nerd-survives-on-attention/#comment-13446</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Zippo, you&#039;ve compelled the bike nerd to break his silence. :-)

&quot;No fashion sense&quot;? You&#039;ve got that right!
I would much rather be unfashionably alive than cool in a coffin.

&quot;Didn&#039;t cost enough&quot;? Maybe by some standards, but &quot;she&#039;s got it where it counts, kid&quot;.**
Anyone who has been in the market for high power bicycle lights knows that they don&#039;t come cheap. On the other hand, the investment is minimal compared to the cost of an emergency room visit, or a funeral.

My motto when it comes to visibility is: &quot;Better overkill than be killed&quot;.

**(with apologies to Han Solo)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zippo, you&#8217;ve compelled the bike nerd to break his silence. 🙂</p>
<p>&#8220;No fashion sense&#8221;? You&#8217;ve got that right!<br />
I would much rather be unfashionably alive than cool in a coffin.</p>
<p>&#8220;Didn&#8217;t cost enough&#8221;? Maybe by some standards, but &#8220;she&#8217;s got it where it counts, kid&#8221;.**<br />
Anyone who has been in the market for high power bicycle lights knows that they don&#8217;t come cheap. On the other hand, the investment is minimal compared to the cost of an emergency room visit, or a funeral.</p>
<p>My motto when it comes to visibility is: &#8220;Better overkill than be killed&#8221;.</p>
<p>**(with apologies to Han Solo)</p>
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		By: Zippo		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/06/23/bicycle-nerd-survives-on-attention/#comment-13436</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zippo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How about a bike fee to pay for the bike related costs?  Kinda like the boat fee I gotta pay on my boots to make sure they are free of snails.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a bike fee to pay for the bike related costs?  Kinda like the boat fee I gotta pay on my boots to make sure they are free of snails.</p>
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		By: Zippo		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/06/23/bicycle-nerd-survives-on-attention/#comment-13435</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zippo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Alive but no fashion sense.  All his flashy stuff didn&#039;t cost enough to keep the bike gods happy either.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alive but no fashion sense.  All his flashy stuff didn&#8217;t cost enough to keep the bike gods happy either.</p>
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		By: Sisyphus		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/06/23/bicycle-nerd-survives-on-attention/#comment-13431</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sisyphus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:02:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Holy moly Jimv, who gave you title to the roadways?  Bikeboy has knocked down every one of your fallacious assertions and you continue like he didn&#039;t say anything.  

Those toys of which you speak allow us to get exercise per doctor&#039;s orders, make your air cleaner than you are making it, and reduce the country&#039;s reliance on foreign oil.  What does your toy do?  The fact that you pay next to nothing to pollute our air makes you a little hypocritical.

You need to get used to the idea of sharing the road.  I&#039;m a big fan of the t-shirt that reads &quot;one less car&quot;.  I long for the day we close off downtown to them and you have to lumber that butt of yours on two legs. It&#039;ll be good for everybody.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy moly Jimv, who gave you title to the roadways?  Bikeboy has knocked down every one of your fallacious assertions and you continue like he didn&#8217;t say anything.  </p>
<p>Those toys of which you speak allow us to get exercise per doctor&#8217;s orders, make your air cleaner than you are making it, and reduce the country&#8217;s reliance on foreign oil.  What does your toy do?  The fact that you pay next to nothing to pollute our air makes you a little hypocritical.</p>
<p>You need to get used to the idea of sharing the road.  I&#8217;m a big fan of the t-shirt that reads &#8220;one less car&#8221;.  I long for the day we close off downtown to them and you have to lumber that butt of yours on two legs. It&#8217;ll be good for everybody.</p>
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		By: sam the sham		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/06/23/bicycle-nerd-survives-on-attention/#comment-13420</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sam the sham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 03:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[this is not US VS THEM]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is not US VS THEM</p>
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		By: Spoke Wrench		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/06/23/bicycle-nerd-survives-on-attention/#comment-13419</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spoke Wrench]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Motorist tend to complain about idiotic cyclists, and they are often correct in that assessment.  

However, for all the times a motorist has gotten impatient an put a cyclist in danger by passing too close, etc., it is rare that they are being delayed from anything more pressing than catching back up to the bumper of the preceding vehicle.

In my mind, tailgating is not sufficient justification for snuffing a cyclist, no matter how boneheaded the cyclist&#039;s behavior.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Motorist tend to complain about idiotic cyclists, and they are often correct in that assessment.  </p>
<p>However, for all the times a motorist has gotten impatient an put a cyclist in danger by passing too close, etc., it is rare that they are being delayed from anything more pressing than catching back up to the bumper of the preceding vehicle.</p>
<p>In my mind, tailgating is not sufficient justification for snuffing a cyclist, no matter how boneheaded the cyclist&#8217;s behavior.</p>
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		By: Tj		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/06/23/bicycle-nerd-survives-on-attention/#comment-13418</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:00:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bikeboy - 

Your point is well taken.  I try to signal every time it&#039;s necessary and/or warranted, but admittedly there are times I do not. 

I agree with your point that &quot;defense survival riding dictates that [a biker should] expect the worst.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bikeboy &#8211; </p>
<p>Your point is well taken.  I try to signal every time it&#8217;s necessary and/or warranted, but admittedly there are times I do not. </p>
<p>I agree with your point that &#8220;defense survival riding dictates that [a biker should] expect the worst.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Clancy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/06/23/bicycle-nerd-survives-on-attention/#comment-13416</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clancy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt; ...the GUARDIAN has decided to provide a forum for both motorists and cyclists in an effort to bring some attention to the problems as well as offer some potential solutions.&lt;/b&gt;  

Jimv,  We see your point of view.  How about some real life solutions?  Changing laws will be tough and not attainable in this forum.  I refer you to my post on July 23 at 1:55 pm.  I admit cyclist have a public image problem.  Bikeboy&#039;s linked article admits this frustration too.   But we come up with a solution to help the spandex crowd get along better with motorist.  

I remember the first time being pulled over for speeding at age 16.  Officer Ruska gave me a stern warning and told me not to let it happen to again.  I was never pulled over by Officer Ruska or anyone else in that county.  Enforcement through education can work for cyclist as it did for me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b> &#8230;the GUARDIAN has decided to provide a forum for both motorists and cyclists in an effort to bring some attention to the problems as well as offer some potential solutions.</b>  </p>
<p>Jimv,  We see your point of view.  How about some real life solutions?  Changing laws will be tough and not attainable in this forum.  I refer you to my post on July 23 at 1:55 pm.  I admit cyclist have a public image problem.  Bikeboy&#8217;s linked article admits this frustration too.   But we come up with a solution to help the spandex crowd get along better with motorist.  </p>
<p>I remember the first time being pulled over for speeding at age 16.  Officer Ruska gave me a stern warning and told me not to let it happen to again.  I was never pulled over by Officer Ruska or anyone else in that county.  Enforcement through education can work for cyclist as it did for me.</p>
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