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		By: Daniel L Dunham		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/07/05/city-council-election-who-cares/#comment-13763</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel L Dunham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have decided that I will seek election to the Boise City Council.  For far too long, the current council has shown contempt for the citizens.  At the last city council meeting, they voted a 12% Sewer increase.  At one point during the &quot;public hearing&quot;, Mr. Eberle threw his hands in the air and declared that all these questions (from the public) had already been asked and answered by the council.  So much for any &quot;LISTENING&quot; going on at a public hearing.  Too bad he isn&#039;t running this time.  Mr. Bisterfeldt is supporting the Trolley Folley and that is as good a reason as any for him to be voted out.  He also voted for the sewer fee increase last Tuesday.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have decided that I will seek election to the Boise City Council.  For far too long, the current council has shown contempt for the citizens.  At the last city council meeting, they voted a 12% Sewer increase.  At one point during the &#8220;public hearing&#8221;, Mr. Eberle threw his hands in the air and declared that all these questions (from the public) had already been asked and answered by the council.  So much for any &#8220;LISTENING&#8221; going on at a public hearing.  Too bad he isn&#8217;t running this time.  Mr. Bisterfeldt is supporting the Trolley Folley and that is as good a reason as any for him to be voted out.  He also voted for the sewer fee increase last Tuesday.</p>
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		By: Lucas B		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/07/05/city-council-election-who-cares/#comment-13637</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lucas B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 06:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And, Kassie, how is it that a person with a record like yours is preaching about who is right for a job?  You wouldn&#039;t know integrity, if it threw itself at you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, Kassie, how is it that a person with a record like yours is preaching about who is right for a job?  You wouldn&#8217;t know integrity, if it threw itself at you.</p>
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		By: Lucas B		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/07/05/city-council-election-who-cares/#comment-13636</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lucas B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 05:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The city council is run by a bunch of communists.  Cassie doesn&#039;t know anything about politics.  She just likes Democrats.  She doesn&#039;t understand anything about political philosophy and the tyranny of socialism.  She just wants free things thrown at her.  How was that trip to Mexico a la Obama?
Interesting that the Dem hordes are trying to inundate the Guardian.  We&#039;ll have to put an end to their political enthusiasm.  I don&#039;t imagine that will be very hard with this new lightweight breed of Democrat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The city council is run by a bunch of communists.  Cassie doesn&#8217;t know anything about politics.  She just likes Democrats.  She doesn&#8217;t understand anything about political philosophy and the tyranny of socialism.  She just wants free things thrown at her.  How was that trip to Mexico a la Obama?<br />
Interesting that the Dem hordes are trying to inundate the Guardian.  We&#8217;ll have to put an end to their political enthusiasm.  I don&#8217;t imagine that will be very hard with this new lightweight breed of Democrat.</p>
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		By: boisecynic		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/07/05/city-council-election-who-cares/#comment-13547</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[boisecynic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Guardian is wrong about the kayak park and in typical logical fallacy fashion uses the wrong terminology. The correct term is River Recreation Park and it will be more than just kayaking. Reconstruction of the 100 year old Thurman Mill diversion, a scant 1 mile from downtown, will make that section of river safer, more beautiful and more useful for everyone including tubers, rafters, waders, fisherman, fish and eagles. Furthermore, much of the construction will be funded by donations. You the taxpayer&#039;s cost in this project, not counting maintenance, is about $1 per year over 10 years. Yeesh, tightwads!

Guardian style opponents of the greenbelt made the same arguments back in the early 70s. Now the greenbelt is beloved by nearly everyone.

Rowdy behavior in the area? How is this relevant? The &quot;rowdy&quot; behavior is a function of the parking lot being open to a park that is undeveloped. The parking lot should be closed until the park is developed and the 30th Extension is built. The &quot;rowdy&quot; behavior is also a function of Boise City and BCACHA forcing all the section 8 people into one small neighborhood.

Where is your libertarian slant when it comes to socialist meddling in the housing/rental market?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guardian is wrong about the kayak park and in typical logical fallacy fashion uses the wrong terminology. The correct term is River Recreation Park and it will be more than just kayaking. Reconstruction of the 100 year old Thurman Mill diversion, a scant 1 mile from downtown, will make that section of river safer, more beautiful and more useful for everyone including tubers, rafters, waders, fisherman, fish and eagles. Furthermore, much of the construction will be funded by donations. You the taxpayer&#8217;s cost in this project, not counting maintenance, is about $1 per year over 10 years. Yeesh, tightwads!</p>
<p>Guardian style opponents of the greenbelt made the same arguments back in the early 70s. Now the greenbelt is beloved by nearly everyone.</p>
<p>Rowdy behavior in the area? How is this relevant? The &#8220;rowdy&#8221; behavior is a function of the parking lot being open to a park that is undeveloped. The parking lot should be closed until the park is developed and the 30th Extension is built. The &#8220;rowdy&#8221; behavior is also a function of Boise City and BCACHA forcing all the section 8 people into one small neighborhood.</p>
<p>Where is your libertarian slant when it comes to socialist meddling in the housing/rental market?</p>
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		By: ADR		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/07/05/city-council-election-who-cares/#comment-13517</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ADR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[These elections are such a yawnfest.  People will say whatever they want to get themselves in office, then do whatever they want after they get in.  

And they wonder why voter turnout is so low.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These elections are such a yawnfest.  People will say whatever they want to get themselves in office, then do whatever they want after they get in.  </p>
<p>And they wonder why voter turnout is so low.</p>
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		By: Umm		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/07/05/city-council-election-who-cares/#comment-13514</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Umm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Do you propose we construct a big wall to keep people out? Growth is inevitable. We are fortunate to have a city government that will take advantage of it (annex and collect tax revenues) and plan ahead, so we don&#039;t end up with entire neighborhoods without police or fire services, and so our children have good schools to attend.

If you&#039;re concerned with over-planning/abandoning plans as you say they&#039;ve done in the past, that&#039;s a pretty good reason to elect someone new like TJ Thomson to City Council.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you propose we construct a big wall to keep people out? Growth is inevitable. We are fortunate to have a city government that will take advantage of it (annex and collect tax revenues) and plan ahead, so we don&#8217;t end up with entire neighborhoods without police or fire services, and so our children have good schools to attend.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re concerned with over-planning/abandoning plans as you say they&#8217;ve done in the past, that&#8217;s a pretty good reason to elect someone new like TJ Thomson to City Council.</p>
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		By: Umm		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/07/05/city-council-election-who-cares/#comment-13511</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Umm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 14:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wait. You don&#039;t want to plan for growth, yet you despise urban sprawl? Okay then. Good luck with that.

EDITOR NOTE--Like other local government types, you miss the point.  Good planning can be to PLAN for limited or NO GROWTH.  Our area has a history of planning and planning and planning and then abandoning the plans.  Team Dave is openly eager to develop the open spaces south and east of town.  They even have future plans for a police station at Blacks Creek and I-84!  They also continue to annex areas into the city to facilitate and encourage GROWTH.  See the comment from Gordon, a fellow GROWTHOPHOBE.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait. You don&#8217;t want to plan for growth, yet you despise urban sprawl? Okay then. Good luck with that.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Like other local government types, you miss the point.  Good planning can be to PLAN for limited or NO GROWTH.  Our area has a history of planning and planning and planning and then abandoning the plans.  Team Dave is openly eager to develop the open spaces south and east of town.  They even have future plans for a police station at Blacks Creek and I-84!  They also continue to annex areas into the city to facilitate and encourage GROWTH.  See the comment from Gordon, a fellow GROWTHOPHOBE.</p>
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		By: Gordon		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/07/05/city-council-election-who-cares/#comment-13508</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 08:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;City Council Election? Who Cares?&quot;
Not me. Aside from the fact that I no longer live in Boise, my nearly 40 years there taught me that it doesn&#039;t much matter who wins -- the outcome is always the same.
A few good folks get into office now and then, but they get out-voted, out-shouted, stomped on and/or whatever by the chanters of: Growth is good, growth will solve all our problems, grow,grow,grow,grow,grow,grow,grow,grow.
Developers get their way, comprehensive plans are created and ignored, zoning is imposed and ignored, taxes on residents go up, up, up, while certain business get tax breaks, incentives and whatever rule changes they want.
Oops! Am I sounding disenchanted, cynical, maybe even bitter? Does anyone wonder why?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;City Council Election? Who Cares?&#8221;<br />
Not me. Aside from the fact that I no longer live in Boise, my nearly 40 years there taught me that it doesn&#8217;t much matter who wins &#8212; the outcome is always the same.<br />
A few good folks get into office now and then, but they get out-voted, out-shouted, stomped on and/or whatever by the chanters of: Growth is good, growth will solve all our problems, grow,grow,grow,grow,grow,grow,grow,grow.<br />
Developers get their way, comprehensive plans are created and ignored, zoning is imposed and ignored, taxes on residents go up, up, up, while certain business get tax breaks, incentives and whatever rule changes they want.<br />
Oops! Am I sounding disenchanted, cynical, maybe even bitter? Does anyone wonder why?</p>
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		By: Bosiean		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/07/05/city-council-election-who-cares/#comment-13507</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bosiean]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 05:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Atta boy Nemo  I knew I could count on you]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atta boy Nemo  I knew I could count on you</p>
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		By: Larry Polsky		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/07/05/city-council-election-who-cares/#comment-13506</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry Polsky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 05:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Obama&quot; organizer more of the same????  In Idaho????  It&#039;s time for a change - with TJ Thomson!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Obama&#8221; organizer more of the same????  In Idaho????  It&#8217;s time for a change &#8211; with TJ Thomson!!!</p>
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