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		By: Joe		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/10/17/county-workers-skirt-security-scrutiny/#comment-15484</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 05:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Easter,

Your confrontational approach to an adult conversation is what is laughable. Your uncivil tone leaves me, and others, I am sure wondering what your real issue is. Your posts are condescending and better suited to an internet chat room.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Easter,</p>
<p>Your confrontational approach to an adult conversation is what is laughable. Your uncivil tone leaves me, and others, I am sure wondering what your real issue is. Your posts are condescending and better suited to an internet chat room.</p>
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		By: Kappa TA		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/10/17/county-workers-skirt-security-scrutiny/#comment-15396</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kappa TA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anonymous:

Nothing implied. It just seems that you are still a very vested ex-county courthouse employee, which is fine and your choice. However, the concern is the safety of the public, of courthouse employees and of public officials. No one is above the law or scrutiny, especially in a courthouse. Cut corners elsewhere. I&#039;d hate to see something happen to anyone at the courthouse, and then hear later, &quot;Oh, my, I guess we should have checked.&quot; I don&#039;t dispute the caseloads or the time or money crunches. It&#039;s simply a matter of security for all. Have a separate line for employees/officials. Most screenings take only a second or so. I do appreciate your knowledge of the court system and of courthouse challenges.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous:</p>
<p>Nothing implied. It just seems that you are still a very vested ex-county courthouse employee, which is fine and your choice. However, the concern is the safety of the public, of courthouse employees and of public officials. No one is above the law or scrutiny, especially in a courthouse. Cut corners elsewhere. I&#8217;d hate to see something happen to anyone at the courthouse, and then hear later, &#8220;Oh, my, I guess we should have checked.&#8221; I don&#8217;t dispute the caseloads or the time or money crunches. It&#8217;s simply a matter of security for all. Have a separate line for employees/officials. Most screenings take only a second or so. I do appreciate your knowledge of the court system and of courthouse challenges.</p>
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		By: Anonymous Ex-County Courthouse Employee		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/10/17/county-workers-skirt-security-scrutiny/#comment-15389</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous Ex-County Courthouse Employee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kappa

Very sure I am an ex-employee.  I&#039;m not sure if you are implying that I wasn&#039;t ever an employee or that I might not be &quot;ex.&quot;  I have not worked there for about 1 year.  If you choose not to believe any of that, well it&#039;s your choice... 

The reason they set cases at 8:15 is because of case overload.  Not setting cases that early will mean that the court docket slows down and the county gets in trouble (again) with the Idaho Supreme Court for not getting criminal cases through the door fast enough.  Slowing down the court system means that cases are dismissed for lack of speedy resolution.  Ada co. judges have the highest case load per judge in the entire state by any margin.  They obviously need more judges based on the number of cases... but that is expensive, too.  When you don&#039;t adequately staff and fund the court system... something&#039;s gotta give.  In this case, it is security as it applies to employees.  I&#039;d rather them cut a corner there than somewhere else, though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kappa</p>
<p>Very sure I am an ex-employee.  I&#8217;m not sure if you are implying that I wasn&#8217;t ever an employee or that I might not be &#8220;ex.&#8221;  I have not worked there for about 1 year.  If you choose not to believe any of that, well it&#8217;s your choice&#8230; </p>
<p>The reason they set cases at 8:15 is because of case overload.  Not setting cases that early will mean that the court docket slows down and the county gets in trouble (again) with the Idaho Supreme Court for not getting criminal cases through the door fast enough.  Slowing down the court system means that cases are dismissed for lack of speedy resolution.  Ada co. judges have the highest case load per judge in the entire state by any margin.  They obviously need more judges based on the number of cases&#8230; but that is expensive, too.  When you don&#8217;t adequately staff and fund the court system&#8230; something&#8217;s gotta give.  In this case, it is security as it applies to employees.  I&#8217;d rather them cut a corner there than somewhere else, though.</p>
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		By: Kappa TA		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/10/17/county-workers-skirt-security-scrutiny/#comment-15373</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kappa TA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 00:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anonymous:

Time management is the key. Start the court hearings at 8:30, so employees have time to be in place. No one should be above a search if a search is mandated for a public building. Are you sure you&#039;re an ex-county employee???]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous:</p>
<p>Time management is the key. Start the court hearings at 8:30, so employees have time to be in place. No one should be above a search if a search is mandated for a public building. Are you sure you&#8217;re an ex-county employee???</p>
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		By: Anonymous ex-county employee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous ex-county employee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To Easter:

The courthouse doesn&#039;t open until 8am brainchild.  So raising the issue that an employee there at 8am that can&#039;t get through the line, up to their floor, put their personal belongings away, and get into the courtroom in time for an 8:15 hearing is a VERY legitimate issue if you&#039;ve ever seen the lines there at that time of day.  If we open the public entrance to the courthouse earlier we run into several issues, the most important being $$$ for increasing hours of security personnel.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Easter:</p>
<p>The courthouse doesn&#8217;t open until 8am brainchild.  So raising the issue that an employee there at 8am that can&#8217;t get through the line, up to their floor, put their personal belongings away, and get into the courtroom in time for an 8:15 hearing is a VERY legitimate issue if you&#8217;ve ever seen the lines there at that time of day.  If we open the public entrance to the courthouse earlier we run into several issues, the most important being $$$ for increasing hours of security personnel.</p>
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		By: Carl		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 03:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BG, why is this item listed under the City Government category. I think the County category would be appropriate.

EDITOR NOTE--Carl, thanks for asking.  &quot;County&quot; is obviously the primary &quot;key.&quot;  Airport and city hall are mentioned and both of those are &quot;city.&quot;  Judgement call on our part to make the search engine more effective in the future.  You can find ANYTHING previously posted on the GUARDIAN using the archive function by date, subject, etc.  Or you can use key work searches as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BG, why is this item listed under the City Government category. I think the County category would be appropriate.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Carl, thanks for asking.  &#8220;County&#8221; is obviously the primary &#8220;key.&#8221;  Airport and city hall are mentioned and both of those are &#8220;city.&#8221;  Judgement call on our part to make the search engine more effective in the future.  You can find ANYTHING previously posted on the GUARDIAN using the archive function by date, subject, etc.  Or you can use key work searches as well.</p>
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		By: Bill		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am still lost here Mr. Watcher.....

Are you saying all government employees are Taxfeeders and don&#039;t pay taxes?

Or do you mean something entirely different? Just asking for a clarification of the term and your meaning is all. 

If you mean because I am a government employee I don&#039;t pay taxes and therefore am some second class citizen that deserves no say in anything and should worship the very ground you walk on then yes I think I might possibly take offense to that. I pay property taxes like you and everyone else, and income taxes too just like you and everyone else. 

If you mean something else, then help me out here because I don&#039;t understand your message. I have served the public faithfully in both the Army and as an Law Enforcement Officer for over 20 years now. I make a fair salary for what I do. Some say you couldn&#039;t pay them enough to do my job, others hate me for what I do just because I am a government employee. If you don&#039;t think I earn my salary, then I&#039;m sorry you feel that way.

I don&#039;t expect anyone to be treated any differently than me and am more than willing to be subjected to screening like anyone else. In fact the last time I flew, apparently the FAA thought I was somehow suspicious and flagged my boarding pass. I got searched so many times during my trip it bordered on ridiculous. It would be funny if it wasn&#039;t so ridiculous. 

Points I was searched at:
Ticket counter
Security checkpoint
Boarding area
Changed planes-boarding area

and all again in reverse on the return trip. 

Every point along the way I got to hear how I was &quot;Randomly &quot; selected for these searches. But you know what? It&#039;s what everyone else has to go through too so I&#039;m willing to bear it. 

I can only hope that someday our paths will cross, and that I can render some type of service to you that makes it all worthwhile for you. 

In the meantime I can only wish you good luck in life and hope you have better times ahead.

EDITOR NOTE--In the interest of civility, we  attempt to catch and remove inflammatory name calling.  There is no need to use this blog to discuss meanings etc.  While the GUARDIAN uses, coppers, supremes, Team Dave, councilors, growthophobes, we do it as a matter of writing style and not as a pejorative.  &quot;Feedburner&quot; no is no longer an approved term.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still lost here Mr. Watcher&#8230;..</p>
<p>Are you saying all government employees are Taxfeeders and don&#8217;t pay taxes?</p>
<p>Or do you mean something entirely different? Just asking for a clarification of the term and your meaning is all. </p>
<p>If you mean because I am a government employee I don&#8217;t pay taxes and therefore am some second class citizen that deserves no say in anything and should worship the very ground you walk on then yes I think I might possibly take offense to that. I pay property taxes like you and everyone else, and income taxes too just like you and everyone else. </p>
<p>If you mean something else, then help me out here because I don&#8217;t understand your message. I have served the public faithfully in both the Army and as an Law Enforcement Officer for over 20 years now. I make a fair salary for what I do. Some say you couldn&#8217;t pay them enough to do my job, others hate me for what I do just because I am a government employee. If you don&#8217;t think I earn my salary, then I&#8217;m sorry you feel that way.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t expect anyone to be treated any differently than me and am more than willing to be subjected to screening like anyone else. In fact the last time I flew, apparently the FAA thought I was somehow suspicious and flagged my boarding pass. I got searched so many times during my trip it bordered on ridiculous. It would be funny if it wasn&#8217;t so ridiculous. </p>
<p>Points I was searched at:<br />
Ticket counter<br />
Security checkpoint<br />
Boarding area<br />
Changed planes-boarding area</p>
<p>and all again in reverse on the return trip. </p>
<p>Every point along the way I got to hear how I was &#8220;Randomly &#8221; selected for these searches. But you know what? It&#8217;s what everyone else has to go through too so I&#8217;m willing to bear it. </p>
<p>I can only hope that someday our paths will cross, and that I can render some type of service to you that makes it all worthwhile for you. </p>
<p>In the meantime I can only wish you good luck in life and hope you have better times ahead.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;In the interest of civility, we  attempt to catch and remove inflammatory name calling.  There is no need to use this blog to discuss meanings etc.  While the GUARDIAN uses, coppers, supremes, Team Dave, councilors, growthophobes, we do it as a matter of writing style and not as a pejorative.  &#8220;Feedburner&#8221; no is no longer an approved term.</p>
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		By: Easter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Easter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 06:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ex County,
part II,
Yes, we are all quite sure employees are TOLD not to bring in friends.   

We are also quite sure it also happens- your post is evidence of that.  Simply ONE person got caught that you know of.   

Additionally, &quot;friends&quot; is not the worry.   We all know &quot;friends&quot; won&#039;t cause harm.  But it&#039;s the person who looks like another employee....  that the judges need to worry about.   Is a lowly part-time clerk, going to challenge an astute looking man in a suit with a brief case and a badge? 

Thanks for letting all know there are cameras, so we can be sure to mask our initial identity next time. Once again, IF there was good security YOU would not be revealing such things.  

As for the costs.  GMAFB.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ex County,<br />
part II,<br />
Yes, we are all quite sure employees are TOLD not to bring in friends.   </p>
<p>We are also quite sure it also happens- your post is evidence of that.  Simply ONE person got caught that you know of.   </p>
<p>Additionally, &#8220;friends&#8221; is not the worry.   We all know &#8220;friends&#8221; won&#8217;t cause harm.  But it&#8217;s the person who looks like another employee&#8230;.  that the judges need to worry about.   Is a lowly part-time clerk, going to challenge an astute looking man in a suit with a brief case and a badge? </p>
<p>Thanks for letting all know there are cameras, so we can be sure to mask our initial identity next time. Once again, IF there was good security YOU would not be revealing such things.  </p>
<p>As for the costs.  GMAFB.</p>
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		By: Easter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Easter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 06:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ex County Person,
your references of an employee being delayed at 8:15 to be in court is almost laughable.  

You know, in some work environments, employees actually get to work EARLY to start their day.  Some even PLAN ahead for known delays like security checks.  

If you would like to justify employee access to avoid delays of court starting, perhaps you would also like to provide a special lane on I-84 of 2C Communters on snowy days, just so court can start on time?    We all love county employees with reasoning like yours.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ex County Person,<br />
your references of an employee being delayed at 8:15 to be in court is almost laughable.  </p>
<p>You know, in some work environments, employees actually get to work EARLY to start their day.  Some even PLAN ahead for known delays like security checks.  </p>
<p>If you would like to justify employee access to avoid delays of court starting, perhaps you would also like to provide a special lane on I-84 of 2C Communters on snowy days, just so court can start on time?    We all love county employees with reasoning like yours.</p>
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		By: Kappa TA		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/10/17/county-workers-skirt-security-scrutiny/#comment-15271</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kappa TA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Zippo:

I only gave the facts - didn&#039;t say whether I thought they were or weren&#039;t guilty. Citing &quot;ignorance&quot; is a common defense ploy; most of us common folk don&#039;t get away with it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zippo:</p>
<p>I only gave the facts &#8211; didn&#8217;t say whether I thought they were or weren&#8217;t guilty. Citing &#8220;ignorance&#8221; is a common defense ploy; most of us common folk don&#8217;t get away with it.</p>
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