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		By: Zippo		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/10/20/flu-and-health-system-make-us-sick/#comment-15326</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zippo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 06:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In the 1950&#039;s it was a government of the people by the people and for the people... now it&#039;s just us paying them to tell us that because they didn&#039;t get as much of a budget increase as they wanted we need to go somewhere else and pay cash for a vaccine... except the flu vacc which they ran short of... this is not the local folk , they&#039;ve done their best i&#039;m sure...boise is a special place... (don&#039;t tell ACORN)  But the whole public system is sick... and now it&#039;s up over $1,000,000,000,000 to fix it so &quot;next year&quot; it will cost less.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the 1950&#8217;s it was a government of the people by the people and for the people&#8230; now it&#8217;s just us paying them to tell us that because they didn&#8217;t get as much of a budget increase as they wanted we need to go somewhere else and pay cash for a vaccine&#8230; except the flu vacc which they ran short of&#8230; this is not the local folk , they&#8217;ve done their best i&#8217;m sure&#8230;boise is a special place&#8230; (don&#8217;t tell ACORN)  But the whole public system is sick&#8230; and now it&#8217;s up over $1,000,000,000,000 to fix it so &#8220;next year&#8221; it will cost less.</p>
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		By: Flyonthewall		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/10/20/flu-and-health-system-make-us-sick/#comment-15324</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Flyonthewall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 02:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Herpes (Zoster and Varicella) is also known for chicken pox.  I must admit I am a bit confused about the Herpes Vaccine comments above.  There is a vaccine out for Shingles for people over the age of 60.  Trials of the vaccine indicate it will prevent Shingles in  60% of the people who get the vaccine.  I got the shot at the South West District Health Dept. at a cost of around $190.00.  After seeing my father suffering with Shingles the choice for the shot was a no brainer.  If you have ever seen anyone suffering from Shingles the pain is horrible and can also be disfiguring.  

This shot was made available by the same government the folks above disapprove of trying to keep us healthy.  Their blather is disturbing when you consider the facts.  Do they think the polio vaccines sponsored by the government in the 1950&#039;s was some kind of a mind control plot?  

The government has done far more right than they have done wrong in the public health arena.  If you doubt this look due south to Mexico.

The United States is the most prosperous nation on the face of the earth. It is also the only wealthy nation where people can go bankrupt due to medical bills.  Sixty-eight percent of people declaring bankruptcy for medical reasons actually had health insurance. The denials and policy limits pushed them over the edge.  I have a friend whos wife had a denial for a broken arm by their insurance company..they said it was not an accident!  Do they really think someone breaks an arm on purpose? Just one example of how big insurance is part of the problem. 

The USA ranks 37th in the world for quality of medical care and we spend 16% of our GNP v. 6-8% for countries with Universal Health Care. Nobody goes bankrupt for medical reasons in those countries.
Yes they pay more in taxes. I for one support medical care reform in the USA.  The current system is not sustainable at an annual increase of 12% in costs to business and just plain people who have reached the end of the line with the current system.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Herpes (Zoster and Varicella) is also known for chicken pox.  I must admit I am a bit confused about the Herpes Vaccine comments above.  There is a vaccine out for Shingles for people over the age of 60.  Trials of the vaccine indicate it will prevent Shingles in  60% of the people who get the vaccine.  I got the shot at the South West District Health Dept. at a cost of around $190.00.  After seeing my father suffering with Shingles the choice for the shot was a no brainer.  If you have ever seen anyone suffering from Shingles the pain is horrible and can also be disfiguring.  </p>
<p>This shot was made available by the same government the folks above disapprove of trying to keep us healthy.  Their blather is disturbing when you consider the facts.  Do they think the polio vaccines sponsored by the government in the 1950&#8217;s was some kind of a mind control plot?  </p>
<p>The government has done far more right than they have done wrong in the public health arena.  If you doubt this look due south to Mexico.</p>
<p>The United States is the most prosperous nation on the face of the earth. It is also the only wealthy nation where people can go bankrupt due to medical bills.  Sixty-eight percent of people declaring bankruptcy for medical reasons actually had health insurance. The denials and policy limits pushed them over the edge.  I have a friend whos wife had a denial for a broken arm by their insurance company..they said it was not an accident!  Do they really think someone breaks an arm on purpose? Just one example of how big insurance is part of the problem. </p>
<p>The USA ranks 37th in the world for quality of medical care and we spend 16% of our GNP v. 6-8% for countries with Universal Health Care. Nobody goes bankrupt for medical reasons in those countries.<br />
Yes they pay more in taxes. I for one support medical care reform in the USA.  The current system is not sustainable at an annual increase of 12% in costs to business and just plain people who have reached the end of the line with the current system.</p>
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		By: Zippo		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/10/20/flu-and-health-system-make-us-sick/#comment-15323</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zippo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 01:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dog, &quot;Herpes Virus Epidemic&quot;  1 in 3 Americans has it down below... most all have the cold sore one up above.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dog, &#8220;Herpes Virus Epidemic&#8221;  1 in 3 Americans has it down below&#8230; most all have the cold sore one up above.</p>
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		By: Zippo		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/10/20/flu-and-health-system-make-us-sick/#comment-15322</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zippo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 01:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The same people that want to choose for you what health treatments/proceedures you need have run out of flu vaccine... oh, and they also need to spend another $900,000,000,000 by the end of the year to save you money next year.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The same people that want to choose for you what health treatments/proceedures you need have run out of flu vaccine&#8230; oh, and they also need to spend another $900,000,000,000 by the end of the year to save you money next year.</p>
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		By: dog		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/10/20/flu-and-health-system-make-us-sick/#comment-15307</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, what ever happend to the Herpes Virus Epidemic? Anyone remember that? 
Good Lord, can anyone imagine what will happen if they get a vaccine for HIV?
What would the rightwingnuts say about the second sexual revolution?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, what ever happend to the Herpes Virus Epidemic? Anyone remember that?<br />
Good Lord, can anyone imagine what will happen if they get a vaccine for HIV?<br />
What would the rightwingnuts say about the second sexual revolution?</p>
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		By: sam the sham		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/10/20/flu-and-health-system-make-us-sick/#comment-15297</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sam the sham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 04:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am with you FTM. We are being managed like a bunch of kids watching a horror film until we are afraid of each and every shadow on the wall and every noise we hear. People who are afraid are easier to control. I&#039;ve not had the flu shot and won&#039;t. I will however, wash my hands, cover my mouth when I cough and sneeze and stay home when I am not feeling well. My grandchildren have also not had the &quot;shot&quot; and will be doing the same thing. Now, if only other people would fall in line. 
By the way, playing in dirt is very healthy for kids... it helps build the immune system (as long as they wash their hands before eating).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am with you FTM. We are being managed like a bunch of kids watching a horror film until we are afraid of each and every shadow on the wall and every noise we hear. People who are afraid are easier to control. I&#8217;ve not had the flu shot and won&#8217;t. I will however, wash my hands, cover my mouth when I cough and sneeze and stay home when I am not feeling well. My grandchildren have also not had the &#8220;shot&#8221; and will be doing the same thing. Now, if only other people would fall in line.<br />
By the way, playing in dirt is very healthy for kids&#8230; it helps build the immune system (as long as they wash their hands before eating).</p>
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		By: Follow the Money		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/10/20/flu-and-health-system-make-us-sick/#comment-15295</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Follow the Money]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 02:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The H1N1 &quot;pandemic&quot; has been shown to be a fake emergency, manufactured by those who will profit from making the vaccines; very few actually die from this flue, except for complications,  and the vaccine is untested and potentially dangerous.  It is actually a benefit to humanity that the supplies are short.  It contains bad stuff, such as mercury and aluminum, and squalene, which can cause even more damage than any flu around. 
Get the facts before you subject yourself and your families to this vaccine. It is a manufactured hysteria, and the national networks are dupes.  There are a lot of resources and sites that are dedicated to informing the public, but they are not network news organizations.  check out Dr Mercola&#039;s website, www.mercola.com to get really informed, and take care of yourself, as guaranteed, our government won&#039;t do that for you...they are too busy protecting the income streams of big business, and big pharma...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The H1N1 &#8220;pandemic&#8221; has been shown to be a fake emergency, manufactured by those who will profit from making the vaccines; very few actually die from this flue, except for complications,  and the vaccine is untested and potentially dangerous.  It is actually a benefit to humanity that the supplies are short.  It contains bad stuff, such as mercury and aluminum, and squalene, which can cause even more damage than any flu around.<br />
Get the facts before you subject yourself and your families to this vaccine. It is a manufactured hysteria, and the national networks are dupes.  There are a lot of resources and sites that are dedicated to informing the public, but they are not network news organizations.  check out Dr Mercola&#8217;s website, <a href="http://www.mercola.com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.mercola.com</a> to get really informed, and take care of yourself, as guaranteed, our government won&#8217;t do that for you&#8230;they are too busy protecting the income streams of big business, and big pharma&#8230;</p>
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		By: Antiphobe		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2009/10/20/flu-and-health-system-make-us-sick/#comment-15292</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Antiphobe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Paul and Sisyphus you are obviously not in tune with the problem being discussed.  The vaccination distribution process has been completely botched. Are you CDHD employees or whats up here?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul and Sisyphus you are obviously not in tune with the problem being discussed.  The vaccination distribution process has been completely botched. Are you CDHD employees or whats up here?</p>
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		By: Sisyphus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sisyphus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Paul&#039;s got it.  I think CDC handled this as well as to be expected with their funding and, yes, a bullet was dodged.  The strain was every bit as virulent as feared, just not as deadly as it could have been or still might become.  Try and remember the flu pretty much ended WWI killing millions more than the bullets could.  As suggested in the post  errors lie with communication, which, to me is the way the media is handling it, not CDC, sharing more alarm than was warranted.  Perhaps the CDC should hone their message when dealing with the media but, gosh, those darn consultants are expensive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul&#8217;s got it.  I think CDC handled this as well as to be expected with their funding and, yes, a bullet was dodged.  The strain was every bit as virulent as feared, just not as deadly as it could have been or still might become.  Try and remember the flu pretty much ended WWI killing millions more than the bullets could.  As suggested in the post  errors lie with communication, which, to me is the way the media is handling it, not CDC, sharing more alarm than was warranted.  Perhaps the CDC should hone their message when dealing with the media but, gosh, those darn consultants are expensive.</p>
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		By: antiphobe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[antiphobe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not suggesting that local CDHD is responsible for the lack of supply, but I am suggesting (strongly) that have dropped the ball in their abilty to assess received supply, communicating availablity to the community and most importantly establishing strict guidelines to follow the protocol of distribution to priority groups.  Surely somebody with an excel spreadsheet or even a handheld calculator could have looked at the supply availble for schools vs. the number of students to be vaccinated and realized before Monday morning that there was an extreme shortage?  Please don&#039;t try to cover up for this agencies ineptness by blaming it on someone higher up the beueracrtic food chain.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not suggesting that local CDHD is responsible for the lack of supply, but I am suggesting (strongly) that have dropped the ball in their abilty to assess received supply, communicating availablity to the community and most importantly establishing strict guidelines to follow the protocol of distribution to priority groups.  Surely somebody with an excel spreadsheet or even a handheld calculator could have looked at the supply availble for schools vs. the number of students to be vaccinated and realized before Monday morning that there was an extreme shortage?  Please don&#8217;t try to cover up for this agencies ineptness by blaming it on someone higher up the beueracrtic food chain.</p>
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