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		By: rodney		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 07:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey &quot;who cares&quot; Why dont you girls take your &quot;my dept is better than your dept&quot;  some where else so you dont make cops look any worse.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey &#8220;who cares&#8221; Why dont you girls take your &#8220;my dept is better than your dept&#8221;  some where else so you dont make cops look any worse.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211; Good idea Rodney.  I just closed the debate.</p>
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		By: Boiseman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Boiseman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 07:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey man, take it easy will you? I am a cop in this town and take a lot of pride in my job. I work hard, do good work and as you know have to deal with enough terrible attitudes on the street. &quot;We eat our own&quot; is so true. If you have some heartache with some of us, join the club.  So do I, but it doesnt need to be aired in a forum like this. If what you say is true about your 20 year + career, then you know better. How about confronting those you talk about? If they dont change, its on them.  As for the unethical happenings in Boise, Im sure they would love to hear about those specific incidents so they can take care of them personally. I dont tolerate unethical officers any more than you and they should be reported. If all you hear is rantings from washed out trainees, then be careful what rumors you spread. I would enjoy talking to you personally to dispell any misconception you may have, but lets not let others comments get us to turn on ourselves.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey man, take it easy will you? I am a cop in this town and take a lot of pride in my job. I work hard, do good work and as you know have to deal with enough terrible attitudes on the street. &#8220;We eat our own&#8221; is so true. If you have some heartache with some of us, join the club.  So do I, but it doesnt need to be aired in a forum like this. If what you say is true about your 20 year + career, then you know better. How about confronting those you talk about? If they dont change, its on them.  As for the unethical happenings in Boise, Im sure they would love to hear about those specific incidents so they can take care of them personally. I dont tolerate unethical officers any more than you and they should be reported. If all you hear is rantings from washed out trainees, then be careful what rumors you spread. I would enjoy talking to you personally to dispell any misconception you may have, but lets not let others comments get us to turn on ourselves.</p>
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		By: Who cares?		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Who cares?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No I don&#039;t heal the sick or forgive sins but I do wash out your types during their probationary period as often as I can, and I have been known to walk on water once in a while.

In answer to your question, no I&#039;m not a Boise cop either because I have more pride in myself than that and actually value my integrity. You guys have a LAPD bad image thing going on.

I actually have friends in Boise PD too that put up with you guys for some dumb reason. It&#039;s a shame really. I have seen many good officers run off to your agency and come back within six months. All of them cite the same reasons for leaving BPD.

1) Lack of ethical behaviors they didn&#039;t want to get caught up in.
2) Trainers were arrogant and treated trainees badly.
3) Many Boise cops have a We vs. They syndrome going on with the public and view their own administration as the enemy.

I have stopped other cops before. Some got warnings some didn&#039;t. One who didn&#039;t, deliberately tried to influence me by flipping out his badge when I stopped him for doing 85 in a 60. As I approached his vehicle he said &#039;Sorry man, we good here? I&#039;m kind of in a hurry.&#039; I asked him for his D.L. etc. and he flipped me more of that professional courtesy crap. 

25 over is not warning worthy no matter how you slice it. I gave him a break and stroked him for 19 over, and thats as good as it was going to get. 

I got a call one night from another officer who told me he caught my son speeding. He asked me what I wanted him to do about it. I said what would you normally do in a case like this? He said he would normally write a ticket. I told him then he knew what he should do. Write the ticket. 

If you think thats holier than thou then you don&#039;t deserve to wear that badge. So, you want my badge hero? Come get it. Your jurisdiction ends at the Boise City limits. Step into mine and break the law if you want to test my tolerance for that kind of behavior. Whether you are a cop or not will not stop me from tossing your crooked butt in jail and ending your career.
 
Facts are this wasn&#039;t even a newsworthy story till a bunch of &quot;Boise&quot; cops started suggesting the law did not apply to them and started complaining about it. 

The sad part of this whole deal is the Sgt. got a ticket. He was publicly humiliated for it. Then a bunch of jackasses banded together and screamed &quot;we are cops and we are above the law! It doesn&#039;t apply to us!&quot; That is what I have an issue with. 

As I stated before, if you have an issue with the way your chief disciplined this guy then maybe you should talk to him about it. 

The public has every right to expect it&#039;s law enforcement officers to not be arrogant, and to obey the law themselves. He wasn&#039;t on a call, he could have parked legally. There was no reason for what he did other than he thought he could get away with it. 

The man paid his fine. Story over. But you want me to feel badly because he made a mistake and was held accountable and the public feels cops should be held accountable? I think not.

None of the cops I have worked with in over 20 years of law enforcement experience have attitudes like yours. It must be a Boise PD thing. 

I bet you still haven&#039;t figured out why voters don&#039;t like spending money on cops yet have you? Look in the mirror and you will have your answer. Remember that with each word you spout out of your mouths you prove my points to the citizens of Boise and shape and form their image of what Boise cops are. Go on, keep it up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No I don&#8217;t heal the sick or forgive sins but I do wash out your types during their probationary period as often as I can, and I have been known to walk on water once in a while.</p>
<p>In answer to your question, no I&#8217;m not a Boise cop either because I have more pride in myself than that and actually value my integrity. You guys have a LAPD bad image thing going on.</p>
<p>I actually have friends in Boise PD too that put up with you guys for some dumb reason. It&#8217;s a shame really. I have seen many good officers run off to your agency and come back within six months. All of them cite the same reasons for leaving BPD.</p>
<p>1) Lack of ethical behaviors they didn&#8217;t want to get caught up in.<br />
2) Trainers were arrogant and treated trainees badly.<br />
3) Many Boise cops have a We vs. They syndrome going on with the public and view their own administration as the enemy.</p>
<p>I have stopped other cops before. Some got warnings some didn&#8217;t. One who didn&#8217;t, deliberately tried to influence me by flipping out his badge when I stopped him for doing 85 in a 60. As I approached his vehicle he said &#8216;Sorry man, we good here? I&#8217;m kind of in a hurry.&#8217; I asked him for his D.L. etc. and he flipped me more of that professional courtesy crap. </p>
<p>25 over is not warning worthy no matter how you slice it. I gave him a break and stroked him for 19 over, and thats as good as it was going to get. </p>
<p>I got a call one night from another officer who told me he caught my son speeding. He asked me what I wanted him to do about it. I said what would you normally do in a case like this? He said he would normally write a ticket. I told him then he knew what he should do. Write the ticket. </p>
<p>If you think thats holier than thou then you don&#8217;t deserve to wear that badge. So, you want my badge hero? Come get it. Your jurisdiction ends at the Boise City limits. Step into mine and break the law if you want to test my tolerance for that kind of behavior. Whether you are a cop or not will not stop me from tossing your crooked butt in jail and ending your career.</p>
<p>Facts are this wasn&#8217;t even a newsworthy story till a bunch of &#8220;Boise&#8221; cops started suggesting the law did not apply to them and started complaining about it. </p>
<p>The sad part of this whole deal is the Sgt. got a ticket. He was publicly humiliated for it. Then a bunch of jackasses banded together and screamed &#8220;we are cops and we are above the law! It doesn&#8217;t apply to us!&#8221; That is what I have an issue with. </p>
<p>As I stated before, if you have an issue with the way your chief disciplined this guy then maybe you should talk to him about it. </p>
<p>The public has every right to expect it&#8217;s law enforcement officers to not be arrogant, and to obey the law themselves. He wasn&#8217;t on a call, he could have parked legally. There was no reason for what he did other than he thought he could get away with it. </p>
<p>The man paid his fine. Story over. But you want me to feel badly because he made a mistake and was held accountable and the public feels cops should be held accountable? I think not.</p>
<p>None of the cops I have worked with in over 20 years of law enforcement experience have attitudes like yours. It must be a Boise PD thing. </p>
<p>I bet you still haven&#8217;t figured out why voters don&#8217;t like spending money on cops yet have you? Look in the mirror and you will have your answer. Remember that with each word you spout out of your mouths you prove my points to the citizens of Boise and shape and form their image of what Boise cops are. Go on, keep it up.</p>
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		By: wow "who cares"		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wow "who cares"]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 14:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think I&#039;ve heard of you.  You forgive sins and heal the sick too don&#039;t you.  Your arrogance is overwhelming and a good example of the extremes in law enforcement. On one hand you have police who are apparently too dense to realize that what they are doing is watched by the citizens and has an impact, like it or not.  On the other hand we have....YOU.  You seem to have very intense feelings about Boise cops.  But yours is so intense that I wonder if it would tarnish your ability to think straight if you came in contact with one on a traffic stop or whatever. Your comments can be construed in a number of different ways, and they are all bad.  Boise cops seem to be a pretty typical example of the community they represent. Yea there seems to be some arrogance with the ones I have been in contact with, but God help us if you are an example of cops in Idaho in general.  In all actuality you sound as if you tried to be a cop in this city and probably couldn&#039;t hack it.  Whatever your problem is, you need to reevaluate your involvement in your profession.  If I were a Boise cop and found out you gave me a ticket only because I was a cop, I WOULD HAVE YOUR JOB!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I&#8217;ve heard of you.  You forgive sins and heal the sick too don&#8217;t you.  Your arrogance is overwhelming and a good example of the extremes in law enforcement. On one hand you have police who are apparently too dense to realize that what they are doing is watched by the citizens and has an impact, like it or not.  On the other hand we have&#8230;.YOU.  You seem to have very intense feelings about Boise cops.  But yours is so intense that I wonder if it would tarnish your ability to think straight if you came in contact with one on a traffic stop or whatever. Your comments can be construed in a number of different ways, and they are all bad.  Boise cops seem to be a pretty typical example of the community they represent. Yea there seems to be some arrogance with the ones I have been in contact with, but God help us if you are an example of cops in Idaho in general.  In all actuality you sound as if you tried to be a cop in this city and probably couldn&#8217;t hack it.  Whatever your problem is, you need to reevaluate your involvement in your profession.  If I were a Boise cop and found out you gave me a ticket only because I was a cop, I WOULD HAVE YOUR JOB!</p>
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		By: Who cares?		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Who cares?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am actually surprised here. All this time I have been telling The Boise Guardian here how he has been overly critical of law enforcement and how we do not think we are above the citizens we serve. Well thanks guys, you just proved me wrong. I stand corrected Dave. 

The Boise Police Department apparently does think the law does not apply to them. It&#039;s that lack of morality and arrogance you are exhibiting and your &quot;I can park wherever I want cuz I&#039;m the Po-Po attitude&quot; which turns the public against us. So no, I won&#039;t apologize for having a more highly evolved sense of ethics than you and maybe you should consider getting into a profession more closely aligned with your belief system, like say Politics. 

My understanding is their sense of entitlement is just like yours. You have that same attitude I have heard before. You call it &quot;Professional courtesy&quot;. I call it corruption. If I stop you for a violation in my county and you badge me, not only will you definitely get a ticket, your chief will get a call as well! You are not above the law. I will answer your question &quot;ringo startled&quot;. Whatever happened to discretion is right. Whatever happened to that officers sense of discretion to take two seconds to think &quot;hey, how will this make me and my agency look if I park here&quot;? 

If you got a beef with your chief and his methods take it up with him. In the meantime, he was wrong, you know he was wrong, all he got was a ticket. Pay it learn from it and move on. Was this newsworthy, hell no. Did they plaster it everywhere to embarrass cops. Hell yes. Are you doing anything to change their attitude about cops. Nope, you keep reinforcing that belief system.  
 
No wonder every officer that leaves my agency to go to Boise for more pay, always comes back within 6 months. They all say the same thing. You guys are out of control and unethical and they don&#039;t want to be associated with you. You&#039;ve got an image problem. I suggest you work on it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am actually surprised here. All this time I have been telling The Boise Guardian here how he has been overly critical of law enforcement and how we do not think we are above the citizens we serve. Well thanks guys, you just proved me wrong. I stand corrected Dave. </p>
<p>The Boise Police Department apparently does think the law does not apply to them. It&#8217;s that lack of morality and arrogance you are exhibiting and your &#8220;I can park wherever I want cuz I&#8217;m the Po-Po attitude&#8221; which turns the public against us. So no, I won&#8217;t apologize for having a more highly evolved sense of ethics than you and maybe you should consider getting into a profession more closely aligned with your belief system, like say Politics. </p>
<p>My understanding is their sense of entitlement is just like yours. You have that same attitude I have heard before. You call it &#8220;Professional courtesy&#8221;. I call it corruption. If I stop you for a violation in my county and you badge me, not only will you definitely get a ticket, your chief will get a call as well! You are not above the law. I will answer your question &#8220;ringo startled&#8221;. Whatever happened to discretion is right. Whatever happened to that officers sense of discretion to take two seconds to think &#8220;hey, how will this make me and my agency look if I park here&#8221;? </p>
<p>If you got a beef with your chief and his methods take it up with him. In the meantime, he was wrong, you know he was wrong, all he got was a ticket. Pay it learn from it and move on. Was this newsworthy, hell no. Did they plaster it everywhere to embarrass cops. Hell yes. Are you doing anything to change their attitude about cops. Nope, you keep reinforcing that belief system.  </p>
<p>No wonder every officer that leaves my agency to go to Boise for more pay, always comes back within 6 months. They all say the same thing. You guys are out of control and unethical and they don&#8217;t want to be associated with you. You&#8217;ve got an image problem. I suggest you work on it.</p>
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		By: Fair Play		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s GREAT that a copper got a ticket BUUUUTTTTTTT..... I think what&#039;s good for the goose is good for the gander - Might I suggest that the BPD start handing out parking tickets in neighborhoods for every violation found... too close to a hydrant, crosswalk, intersection, parked backwards, tires on the sidewalk, tires &#062;18&quot; from curb.... etc etc etc - wow this could really add up!  They could probably write enough to pay for Dave&#039;s choo-choo-train!  

I hope my sarcasm was picked up on - you don&#039;t give tickets to your police!  And if they step out of line, you call their supervisor &#038; it get&#039;s handled - period.  You people need to get a life.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s GREAT that a copper got a ticket BUUUUTTTTTTT&#8230;.. I think what&#8217;s good for the goose is good for the gander &#8211; Might I suggest that the BPD start handing out parking tickets in neighborhoods for every violation found&#8230; too close to a hydrant, crosswalk, intersection, parked backwards, tires on the sidewalk, tires &gt;18&#8243; from curb&#8230;. etc etc etc &#8211; wow this could really add up!  They could probably write enough to pay for Dave&#8217;s choo-choo-train!  </p>
<p>I hope my sarcasm was picked up on &#8211; you don&#8217;t give tickets to your police!  And if they step out of line, you call their supervisor &amp; it get&#8217;s handled &#8211; period.  You people need to get a life.</p>
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		By: ringo startled		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Whatever happened to &quot;discretion&quot;.  I&#039;m sure there HAS to be a local cop here who has given a warning for an infraction involving a traffic complaint or violation. One would have to assume that at the very least this would have been handled in some manner involving personnel discipline or a warning of some sort within the department.  So an on duty cop is issued a citation in a marked police car while in uniform.  Hey &quot;who cares&#039;...THIS is the slippery slope that needs to be addressed not your attitude of moral superiority suggesting that this guy is an ethics nightmare.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever happened to &#8220;discretion&#8221;.  I&#8217;m sure there HAS to be a local cop here who has given a warning for an infraction involving a traffic complaint or violation. One would have to assume that at the very least this would have been handled in some manner involving personnel discipline or a warning of some sort within the department.  So an on duty cop is issued a citation in a marked police car while in uniform.  Hey &#8220;who cares&#8217;&#8230;THIS is the slippery slope that needs to be addressed not your attitude of moral superiority suggesting that this guy is an ethics nightmare.</p>
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		By: john lennon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey &quot;who cares&quot;..He isn&#039;t condoning his behavior.  He is questioning the importance of a story in a Boise newspaper, a chief who apparently got involved over a parking issue that should have been handled at a much lower level, and the assumption by individuals like you that this is an ethics issue.  Give it a break dude.  Your arrogant holier than thou attitude is actually a bigger problem with local cops than parking in the wrong parking spot.  Get over yourself for crying out loud and get back to all that violent crime not happening in this town..no thanks to you I&#039;m sure.  Your attitude disgusts us more than some sgt who wanted to park close to a restaurant.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey &#8220;who cares&#8221;..He isn&#8217;t condoning his behavior.  He is questioning the importance of a story in a Boise newspaper, a chief who apparently got involved over a parking issue that should have been handled at a much lower level, and the assumption by individuals like you that this is an ethics issue.  Give it a break dude.  Your arrogant holier than thou attitude is actually a bigger problem with local cops than parking in the wrong parking spot.  Get over yourself for crying out loud and get back to all that violent crime not happening in this town..no thanks to you I&#8217;m sure.  Your attitude disgusts us more than some sgt who wanted to park close to a restaurant.</p>
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		By: joe mccarthy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, the rumor is it was Boise Police sgt.  Guess that ends the debate right there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the rumor is it was Boise Police sgt.  Guess that ends the debate right there.</p>
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		By: The Truth is out there. .........		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Truth is out there. .........]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 04:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well, stupid bullsh@t stories like this keep us from focusing on important stuff like why Beater is trying impose tens of millions of dollars of our tax money on an expensive but worthless trainset. Gee, Mr Guardian. You put up a good diversion by pretending to be against the mayor and finding  important news stories like this. 

Also, no wonder the cops hate us. One of the guys was at our fire house talking about this ticket, and it&#039;s amazing how hard Chief Masterson and the mayor are trying to underhand the police dept. Funny the city starts doing this kind of crap when negotiations are about to start with police and fire. Let&#039;s all donate to the Guardian because he&#039;s sooooooo unbiased.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, stupid bullsh@t stories like this keep us from focusing on important stuff like why Beater is trying impose tens of millions of dollars of our tax money on an expensive but worthless trainset. Gee, Mr Guardian. You put up a good diversion by pretending to be against the mayor and finding  important news stories like this. </p>
<p>Also, no wonder the cops hate us. One of the guys was at our fire house talking about this ticket, and it&#8217;s amazing how hard Chief Masterson and the mayor are trying to underhand the police dept. Funny the city starts doing this kind of crap when negotiations are about to start with police and fire. Let&#8217;s all donate to the Guardian because he&#8217;s sooooooo unbiased.</p>
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