Comments on: Local Coppers Head For Seattle Funeral

By: Bill Goodnight

Bill Goodnight — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:26:55 +0000

I notice that objective “family members” (Nampa Police) will be the formal investigators of the recent shooting of a citizen by Caldwell police. I wonder what the outcome will be??

By: hk

hk — Sun, 13 Dec 2009 04:33:05 +0000

The term Copper used through out all of the BG posting is a direct put down of all law enforcement. I can accept COP a little better but not when writing about officer’s killed in the line of duty. What do we can firemen or military who die in the line of duty. I call them hero’s.
So what is a COP, well he could be the Chief of Police (COP) or in the late 1700 early 1800 hundreds he was just the Constable on Patrol.

EDITOR NOTE–HK, You can be an offended victim if you choose to be. If the GUARDIAN wanted to be offensive–which we don’t–we would use truly offensive language. We see “copper” to be just about the same as “jocks” when referring to college athletes or “gun nuts” when referring to shooting enthusiasts, or
“bikers” when referring to motorcycle riders, or “greenies” when referring to environmentalists, or “newies” when referring to journalists–yes we even make “dope reporter” awards. We also talk about “politicos” when referring to elected officials, and “warriors” when referring to what used to be collectively known as, “GIs.” Some folks shy away from “Mexican,” but have no problem with ” French, Canadian, or Dutch.” HK, the bad connotation is in your mind, not ours. Lighten up and enjoy life AND the GUARDIAN! 🙂

By: Jake McGuillicuddy

Jake McGuillicuddy — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 05:08:08 +0000

Mr Logic

I took a breath. If you notice my last comment. The point I was trying to make actually had no basis in race. It was based on terminology. Times change. What was once freely accepted slang is no longer. “Copper” may have been once widely used, but it is no longer. If you were to use the term cop in Judge Morden’s courtroom after his first warning, it could very well get you a contempt charge. My grandfather fought on Iwo Jima. He has a particularly distasteful term for Japanese people. It was accepted in his days, but not now. I’m just trying to show that times change. “Gay” does not mean joyful like it did at the end of the Flintstones cartoons.

I appreciate Mr Frazier’s service, and I’ve told him that.

By: Mr. Logic

Mr. Logic — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:50:27 +0000

Jake–
Take a deep breath. I think you will find the G-man certainly has worn the badge (see HK comment), is a Vietnam vet (from past posts), and generally tries to get people to think about things. This particular post has no opinion–just mentions the delegation attending.

Spongebob would have the BG deny folks a voice if it doesn’t agree with his view, you raise racist allegations and spout conclusions which I don’t thing are even…LOGICAL!

By: Jake McGuillicuddy

Jake McGuillicuddy — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:36:06 +0000

Let me be the first to offer an apology to Mr. Frazier for some of the comments I have made regarding donations to the Guardian.

He has provided this medium for us to share our differing opinions, and I apologize for being out of line.

Thank you

By: Jake McGuillicuddy

Jake McGuillicuddy — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:53:16 +0000

Story in the Statesman……..Seems important to a lot of people that the fallen heroes be honored, Mr. Guardian. My wife once told me I would never understand what it is like to be a woman. She is right. My best friend in college told me I would never understand what it was to be black, and he was right. I never will. Same as you will never (and can’t) understand what it means to wear the badge and serve the same men and women who spit upon you as you save their lives.

You think the only link from our police here to a policeman in Lakewood is a badge?

Sgt. Mark Renninger or a “copper” as you would call him, is being buried in a town clear across the country. Officers from all over the country are going to his memorial. Officers from Colorado Springs, CO. Officers from NYPD are playing the bagpipes in honor of him.

By: Jake McGuillicuddy

Jake McGuillicuddy — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:46:08 +0000

Since the Guardian calls all police officers “Coppers” does that mean he will also call all female Native Americans “Squaws” and all African-Americans “Boy”?

It’s equally offensive, David. Maybe not to you and maybe not to some others, but “squaw” wasn’t offensive to everyone either.

Ever since the Guardian became more dependant upon donations to fund his trips to Argentina, Brazil, or Europe, he has used his hatred of Law Enforcement to pad his bank account.

Also, Mr Guardian, although we will have to disagree on this subject of police traveling to funerals, be it known I would gladly take a bullet for you in the line of duty. But please to not disrepect or dishonor my family or my service with your appearance at my funeral service.

By: hk

hk — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 02:03:09 +0000

First sending a few officers to Washington is the lest we can do. Those same city’s county’s and State sent officers to Mark Stall, Linda Huff and many other Officer funeral’s in the area.
Second David F. when did forget you once was A “copper” as you put it, this the best you can do, or cann’t you Spell Police Officer. Remenber your day’s in Garden City.
Third the people concerned about the cost I will would be more than willing to give you your tax money back, your cost about .75 cents a year. But I did a rather large donation instead.

EDITOR NOTE–We note the RCMP sent 1,000 mounties! Did that honor the deceased 100 times as much as 10 would have? Since we ALL truly suffer a loss at a time like this, would you approve of sending for instance, 1 command officer and 4 citizens to represent Boise–at taxpayer expense? Finally, if we accept all the reasoning for sending Boise coppers to Seattle, did we send a squad to Oakland March 24 when 4 of their finest were gunned down?

By: dog

dog — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 22:57:37 +0000

A Republican pardoned the cop killer.
A Republican President wouldn’t let the public honor the dead from the wars in Iraq/Afghanistan. This state must be turning blue.

By: steve stanford

steve stanford — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 12:46:22 +0000

Here is what the idiot wrote about heros back in 05 when they went to help public safety officers during the hurricane. I bet he will want them to crave action if he ever needs them. His feelings about public saftey is sumed up by what he said back then: “publicity stunt” what a jerk!!

The Associated Press reports the well intended publicity stunt on the part of Idaho cops to “help their brothers and sisters” in the hurricane Katrina disaster area were met with a less than enthusiastic reception.

The GUARDIAN had questioned the wisdom of sending people and products to the area in the context of a story about Rep. Buth Otter’s “no” vote on federal spending without proper forethought.

The general word from the disaster area was, “Thanks, but no thanks.” Part of the problem comes from cops, firemen, and medics craving action. There simply isn’t enough action to go around. Best to save the efforts for close to home.