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		By: Alva Couden		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/01/14/tj-withdraws-support-of-street-car-vote/#comment-16605</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alva Couden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sidewalks]]></description>
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		By: TJ, the elder		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/01/14/tj-withdraws-support-of-street-car-vote/#comment-16439</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TJ, the elder]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 08:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Pave that square block at 15th and Idaho (I guess it is still a dirt lot) for parking and put a merry-go-round in the middle.  That way we will have a non-transportation option that will be fun and not get in the way of traffic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pave that square block at 15th and Idaho (I guess it is still a dirt lot) for parking and put a merry-go-round in the middle.  That way we will have a non-transportation option that will be fun and not get in the way of traffic.</p>
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		By: Lee Lay		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/01/14/tj-withdraws-support-of-street-car-vote/#comment-16433</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lee Lay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bus-rail]]></description>
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		By: Sisyphus		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/01/14/tj-withdraws-support-of-street-car-vote/#comment-16415</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sisyphus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 20:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I see they expanded the rules for getting federal funding to include economic development.  That major hurdle is now out of the way.  Now all we gotta beat are the eighty other cities vying for this money.

Announced on Jan. 13 by U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood, the federal government will now evaluate transit funding based on factors such as livability and economic development, rather than strict economics. At the same time, he also recommended an expansion of the Transportation Investment Generating Recovery (TIGER) program, which provides $1.5 billion in funding for projects including streetcars.

“Our new policy for selecting major transit projects will work to promote livability rather than hinder it,” LaHood told attendees at the Transportation Research Board’s annual meeting. “We want to base our decisions on how much transit helps the environment, how much it improves development opportunities and how it makes our communities better places to live.”
 
http://www.idahobusiness.net/archive.htm/2010/01/15/New-federal-policy-may-favor-Boise-streetcar-project

I heard that the Orchard overpass is gonna cost $165 million.  I doubt we&#039;ll realize much revenue from that.  But even if we get half of what Portland realized, a billion dollars over ten years, it would make the project worthwhile and help pull our economy out of the doldrums.  I&#039;m cautiously optimistic.

I&#039;m a thinking that TJ IS listening to the voters.  His opponent ran hard against the trolley and he was trounced.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see they expanded the rules for getting federal funding to include economic development.  That major hurdle is now out of the way.  Now all we gotta beat are the eighty other cities vying for this money.</p>
<p>Announced on Jan. 13 by U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood, the federal government will now evaluate transit funding based on factors such as livability and economic development, rather than strict economics. At the same time, he also recommended an expansion of the Transportation Investment Generating Recovery (TIGER) program, which provides $1.5 billion in funding for projects including streetcars.</p>
<p>“Our new policy for selecting major transit projects will work to promote livability rather than hinder it,” LaHood told attendees at the Transportation Research Board’s annual meeting. “We want to base our decisions on how much transit helps the environment, how much it improves development opportunities and how it makes our communities better places to live.”</p>
<p><a href="http://www.idahobusiness.net/archive.htm/2010/01/15/New-federal-policy-may-favor-Boise-streetcar-project" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.idahobusiness.net/archive.htm/2010/01/15/New-federal-policy-may-favor-Boise-streetcar-project</a></p>
<p>I heard that the Orchard overpass is gonna cost $165 million.  I doubt we&#8217;ll realize much revenue from that.  But even if we get half of what Portland realized, a billion dollars over ten years, it would make the project worthwhile and help pull our economy out of the doldrums.  I&#8217;m cautiously optimistic.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a thinking that TJ IS listening to the voters.  His opponent ran hard against the trolley and he was trounced.</p>
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		By: ADR		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/01/14/tj-withdraws-support-of-street-car-vote/#comment-16406</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ADR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 20:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I called this one before he was even in office.  TJ never made anything secret about the fact that he a pro-rail enthusiast.  

TJ&#039;s vote is irrelevant anyway.  Beiter already has the necessary votes to pass the streetcar, TJ knows that, so he can appear to ride the fence and pander.

The city is not listening to any input at all from the public because their minds are already made up.  The ONLY chance of putting the brakes on this is to complain to Congressman Mike Simpson.  He at least has demonstrated a willingness to listen to input, and he can make recommendations as to the federal grant award.

More info at http://noboisestreetcar.blogspot.com]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I called this one before he was even in office.  TJ never made anything secret about the fact that he a pro-rail enthusiast.  </p>
<p>TJ&#8217;s vote is irrelevant anyway.  Beiter already has the necessary votes to pass the streetcar, TJ knows that, so he can appear to ride the fence and pander.</p>
<p>The city is not listening to any input at all from the public because their minds are already made up.  The ONLY chance of putting the brakes on this is to complain to Congressman Mike Simpson.  He at least has demonstrated a willingness to listen to input, and he can make recommendations as to the federal grant award.</p>
<p>More info at <a href="http://noboisestreetcar.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://noboisestreetcar.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		By: Dr Spiegelvogel		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/01/14/tj-withdraws-support-of-street-car-vote/#comment-16402</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr Spiegelvogel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 15:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To Dave of the Guardian, not Dave of Team Dave

Do you have a feel for the chance of the Feds awarding Boise the $40 million grant?  Is is 20% or 80%.  If is is low, all this caterwauling might well have been for naught.

But I am betting if the award is not gotten, the City will start planning/selling the N-South route with longer term funding.

EDITOR NOTE--Can&#039;t imagine the Feds putting Boise ahead of NYC, Boston, Philly, D.C., Chicago, St. Louis, L.A., etc. when it comes to mass transit investment.  However, as long as Team Dave keeps pushing for the project w/o voter approval, we all need to remain vigilant.  They seem to view silence as approval for anything.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Dave of the Guardian, not Dave of Team Dave</p>
<p>Do you have a feel for the chance of the Feds awarding Boise the $40 million grant?  Is is 20% or 80%.  If is is low, all this caterwauling might well have been for naught.</p>
<p>But I am betting if the award is not gotten, the City will start planning/selling the N-South route with longer term funding.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Can&#8217;t imagine the Feds putting Boise ahead of NYC, Boston, Philly, D.C., Chicago, St. Louis, L.A., etc. when it comes to mass transit investment.  However, as long as Team Dave keeps pushing for the project w/o voter approval, we all need to remain vigilant.  They seem to view silence as approval for anything.</p>
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		By: cyclops		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/01/14/tj-withdraws-support-of-street-car-vote/#comment-16390</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cyclops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 21:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[WOW! Angry Woman! A Thesaurus AND a Dictionary for Christmas! Santa was very good to you!
Don&#039;t forget Samoas and that new &quot;Leche&quot; one!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW! Angry Woman! A Thesaurus AND a Dictionary for Christmas! Santa was very good to you!<br />
Don&#8217;t forget Samoas and that new &#8220;Leche&#8221; one!!!</p>
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		By: ya right		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/01/14/tj-withdraws-support-of-street-car-vote/#comment-16387</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ya right]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 19:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THE FOLLOWING

Reminder “allowing lawyers to become politicians and create laws and regualtions to benifit themselves is no different than having the fox guard the hen house”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THE FOLLOWING</p>
<p>Reminder “allowing lawyers to become politicians and create laws and regualtions to benifit themselves is no different than having the fox guard the hen house”</p>
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		By: Lisa		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/01/14/tj-withdraws-support-of-street-car-vote/#comment-16381</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lisa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Upon reading this post, I immediately wrote and email to Councilman Thomson. Here was his response:
Hi Lisa,

Thanks so much for your email. I appreciate your comments and take
them to heart.

My position has been misstated on The Guardian’s website. Keep in mind that I signed the initiative for a vote in October and advocated for its passage. I did my part to contribute to its success.
If someone starts a new petition, I will sign it again.  And if it
obtains the small number of signatures necessary to request a public vote on the Streetcar, I will support such a vote in Council, as well.
Again, that would show the public will exists for a vote.  Without this initiative, I do not believe it would pass in Council as I am only one of six votes.

I remain undecided on the streetcar until I see the results of federal funding, the recommendations from the task force, and we go through a
process of broad public input.

Thanks so very much for your email.
TJ Thomson]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Upon reading this post, I immediately wrote and email to Councilman Thomson. Here was his response:<br />
Hi Lisa,</p>
<p>Thanks so much for your email. I appreciate your comments and take<br />
them to heart.</p>
<p>My position has been misstated on The Guardian’s website. Keep in mind that I signed the initiative for a vote in October and advocated for its passage. I did my part to contribute to its success.<br />
If someone starts a new petition, I will sign it again.  And if it<br />
obtains the small number of signatures necessary to request a public vote on the Streetcar, I will support such a vote in Council, as well.<br />
Again, that would show the public will exists for a vote.  Without this initiative, I do not believe it would pass in Council as I am only one of six votes.</p>
<p>I remain undecided on the streetcar until I see the results of federal funding, the recommendations from the task force, and we go through a<br />
process of broad public input.</p>
<p>Thanks so very much for your email.<br />
TJ Thomson</p>
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		By: Kappa TA		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/01/14/tj-withdraws-support-of-street-car-vote/#comment-16380</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kappa TA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Unlike some of you, I am surprised that TJ withdrew his support. He knows that people can be apathetic, or that petition drives wane for whatever reason. Perhaps Mr. Litster just got busy with work and life. The resounding message has been for a public vote. A streetcar now at the projected cost in taxpayer dollars is frivolity and nothing more.  Idaho ELOFS should be more concerned with unemployment, holding the line on taxes, and finding ways to stimulate the economy without burdening already severely strapped taxpayers. Think outside the box for what&#039;s best for the city, the state and the nation. Things are NOT getting better. Listen to the people--a petition is just a piece of paper.

Untamed Shrew: speling erors are easy to make online, everybody makes them, even pros. Personal attacks don&#039;t solve problems.

Thank you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unlike some of you, I am surprised that TJ withdrew his support. He knows that people can be apathetic, or that petition drives wane for whatever reason. Perhaps Mr. Litster just got busy with work and life. The resounding message has been for a public vote. A streetcar now at the projected cost in taxpayer dollars is frivolity and nothing more.  Idaho ELOFS should be more concerned with unemployment, holding the line on taxes, and finding ways to stimulate the economy without burdening already severely strapped taxpayers. Think outside the box for what&#8217;s best for the city, the state and the nation. Things are NOT getting better. Listen to the people&#8211;a petition is just a piece of paper.</p>
<p>Untamed Shrew: speling erors are easy to make online, everybody makes them, even pros. Personal attacks don&#8217;t solve problems.</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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