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		By: kelly christensen		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/02/23/f-35-fighter-by-unanimous-consent/#comment-18776</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kelly christensen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 04:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This fighter is a Cold War relic.  The Air Farce needs more Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) to fight the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, not $113 million airplanes.  Al-Quida and the Taliban have no air forces. But Lockheed-Martin has spent millions lobbying Congess to get this white elephant built at any cost to the tax payer.  Isin&#039;t democracy and capitalism a wonderful combination?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This fighter is a Cold War relic.  The Air Farce needs more Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs) to fight the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, not $113 million airplanes.  Al-Quida and the Taliban have no air forces. But Lockheed-Martin has spent millions lobbying Congess to get this white elephant built at any cost to the tax payer.  Isin&#8217;t democracy and capitalism a wonderful combination?</p>
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		By: bikeboy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/02/23/f-35-fighter-by-unanimous-consent/#comment-17006</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bikeboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As Gomer Pyle would say, &quot;Sa-prize, sa-prize, sa-prize!&quot;

Air Force: &quot;The high-profile F-35 Joint Strike Fighter program will be delayed by two years and will be significantly over cost, Air Force Secretary Michael Donley said on Tuesday.&quot;

(Article &lt;a href=&quot;http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/84457-air-force-f-35-to-cost-50-percent-more-than-expected&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;HERE&lt;/a&gt;.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Gomer Pyle would say, &#8220;Sa-prize, sa-prize, sa-prize!&#8221;</p>
<p>Air Force: &#8220;The high-profile F-35 Joint Strike Fighter program will be delayed by two years and will be significantly over cost, Air Force Secretary Michael Donley said on Tuesday.&#8221;</p>
<p>(Article <a href="http://thehill.com/business-a-lobbying/84457-air-force-f-35-to-cost-50-percent-more-than-expected" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>.)</p>
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		By: dog		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/02/23/f-35-fighter-by-unanimous-consent/#comment-16974</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 17:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BD, I remember the F4 operations. I worked near Cole and Victory in those days operating a forklift. I NEVER got used to the noise.  I guess those planes were screaming for freedom. I enjoy that freedom I guess, just like my neighbor down the street dying from cancer. He has no money left to pay for the best medical healthcare in the world unless he sells his house. Like that&#039;s going to happen in todays market. Soon, he will enjoy some of that tax and deficit funded freedom people like you like to remind us about. Go figure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BD, I remember the F4 operations. I worked near Cole and Victory in those days operating a forklift. I NEVER got used to the noise.  I guess those planes were screaming for freedom. I enjoy that freedom I guess, just like my neighbor down the street dying from cancer. He has no money left to pay for the best medical healthcare in the world unless he sells his house. Like that&#8217;s going to happen in todays market. Soon, he will enjoy some of that tax and deficit funded freedom people like you like to remind us about. Go figure.</p>
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		By: Zippo		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/02/23/f-35-fighter-by-unanimous-consent/#comment-16971</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zippo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 14:20:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BD, F-35 will be twice as noisy.  Twice!  The USAF has said so and done studies.  They are worried about their own people on their own bases it is so bad.  See previous articles on this topic for facts and info.  The F-4 was an issue too, as was airline training at night.

If they must have it, base it at MHAFB.  It&#039;s a great place to put the plane but looks bad for recruitment and retintion of people, thus the Boise air-guard base is considered.  But they failed to talk about the noise]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BD, F-35 will be twice as noisy.  Twice!  The USAF has said so and done studies.  They are worried about their own people on their own bases it is so bad.  See previous articles on this topic for facts and info.  The F-4 was an issue too, as was airline training at night.</p>
<p>If they must have it, base it at MHAFB.  It&#8217;s a great place to put the plane but looks bad for recruitment and retintion of people, thus the Boise air-guard base is considered.  But they failed to talk about the noise</p>
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		By: Larry Fortensky		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/02/23/f-35-fighter-by-unanimous-consent/#comment-16970</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry Fortensky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 09:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Shows you how phony Simpson, Crapo and Risch are. They decry bloated government and &quot;big spenders.&quot; But they&#039;ll take some of that F-35 money. Communities overrun by the military are shitholes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shows you how phony Simpson, Crapo and Risch are. They decry bloated government and &#8220;big spenders.&#8221; But they&#8217;ll take some of that F-35 money. Communities overrun by the military are shitholes.</p>
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		By: BD		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/02/23/f-35-fighter-by-unanimous-consent/#comment-16968</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BD]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 04:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Folks may not remember this, but Boise was once home to one of the noiseist fighter aircraft the US ever operated...the F-4. F-4 operations were conducted out of Gowen Field for over 2 decades before the A-10&#039;s came in. If you&#039;ve lived here long enough you remember, and it was no issue with noise then. Too many cry babies nowadays. 
Most people complaining about the potential noise probably didn&#039;t even live here in the early 90&#039;s.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks may not remember this, but Boise was once home to one of the noiseist fighter aircraft the US ever operated&#8230;the F-4. F-4 operations were conducted out of Gowen Field for over 2 decades before the A-10&#8217;s came in. If you&#8217;ve lived here long enough you remember, and it was no issue with noise then. Too many cry babies nowadays.<br />
Most people complaining about the potential noise probably didn&#8217;t even live here in the early 90&#8217;s.</p>
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		By: dog		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/02/23/f-35-fighter-by-unanimous-consent/#comment-16966</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 23:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey, isn&#039;t getting the F35&#039;s here in Idaho the same as &quot;more government&quot; with bonus decibel levels?  

Why do the anti-government politicians, anti-government governor and anti-government citizens want more government in Idaho? 
What part of the F35 program is NOT government?  
Don&#039;t we have enough government in Idaho?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, isn&#8217;t getting the F35&#8217;s here in Idaho the same as &#8220;more government&#8221; with bonus decibel levels?  </p>
<p>Why do the anti-government politicians, anti-government governor and anti-government citizens want more government in Idaho?<br />
What part of the F35 program is NOT government?<br />
Don&#8217;t we have enough government in Idaho?</p>
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		By: John Q Publique		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/02/23/f-35-fighter-by-unanimous-consent/#comment-16964</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John Q Publique]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 22:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another way of sending your unfiltered thoughts is by using the links below.

Based on the links below it appears all these meetings are part of a scoping process to identify community and environmental concerns as a precursor to the preparation of a draft Environmental Impact Statement (EIS).

Your comments become part of an official record.  For those concerned about noise, or any other aspect for that matter, this is a good way to express your thoughts.

There are two SEPARATE proposals going on here.

One is placement of an F-35 training unit at Gowen Field.

The other is placement of an F-35 operational unit at Mountain Home.

Comments for Mountain Home close Monday, March 1, 2010 (Monday).

http://www.westbountiful.utah.gov/vertical/Sites/%7BA661E803-DD1C-438F-A0AF-7C657306342C%7D/uploads/%7B82A6EF3D-0990-4BAA-BDA5-AC92E168344E%7D.PDF

A comment card for the Mountain Home basing option can be found at:

http://www.meridiancity.org/uploadedFiles/Home/Hot_List/F-35%20Comment%20Sheet.pdf?n=3175



Comments for Gowen Field close April 5, 2010

http://www.f-35atrainingeis.com/PublicInvolvement.html

A comment card link is included in the above link.


Make some noise!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another way of sending your unfiltered thoughts is by using the links below.</p>
<p>Based on the links below it appears all these meetings are part of a scoping process to identify community and environmental concerns as a precursor to the preparation of a draft Environmental Impact Statement (EIS).</p>
<p>Your comments become part of an official record.  For those concerned about noise, or any other aspect for that matter, this is a good way to express your thoughts.</p>
<p>There are two SEPARATE proposals going on here.</p>
<p>One is placement of an F-35 training unit at Gowen Field.</p>
<p>The other is placement of an F-35 operational unit at Mountain Home.</p>
<p>Comments for Mountain Home close Monday, March 1, 2010 (Monday).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.westbountiful.utah.gov/vertical/Sites/%7BA661E803-DD1C-438F-A0AF-7C657306342C%7D/uploads/%7B82A6EF3D-0990-4BAA-BDA5-AC92E168344E%7D.PDF" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.westbountiful.utah.gov/vertical/Sites/%7BA661E803-DD1C-438F-A0AF-7C657306342C%7D/uploads/%7B82A6EF3D-0990-4BAA-BDA5-AC92E168344E%7D.PDF</a></p>
<p>A comment card for the Mountain Home basing option can be found at:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.meridiancity.org/uploadedFiles/Home/Hot_List/F-35%20Comment%20Sheet.pdf?n=3175" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.meridiancity.org/uploadedFiles/Home/Hot_List/F-35%20Comment%20Sheet.pdf?n=3175</a></p>
<p>Comments for Gowen Field close April 5, 2010</p>
<p><a href="http://www.f-35atrainingeis.com/PublicInvolvement.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.f-35atrainingeis.com/PublicInvolvement.html</a></p>
<p>A comment card link is included in the above link.</p>
<p>Make some noise!</p>
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		By: Grumpy ole guy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grumpy ole guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 08:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They brought in the &quot;test&quot; last summer and it was nothing but noise.  The claims in favor are that Gowen already exists (that&#039;s where the training wing would be, the established would be MHAFB).   They claim it would bring a lot of money into this area.  But, the cost would be in the quality of life I have come to value in my 34+ years here in Boise, the noise pollution alone would degrade our quality of life.  Yes, it would bring about some &quot;improved&quot; economic conditions, and create the need for more schools, more fire and police protection, more water demand which is a scary thought with our regular drought cycle, sewer, irrigation, electricity, gas, more cars on (the same number?) or roads.

It&#039;s an opportunity that I believe we can not afford.

I was privileged to participate in Rep. Simpson&#039;s telephone town-meeting last evening.   Boy, it made me aware of how much more D.C he is now, than he was when he lived in Idaho full-time.  Every question asked was, according to him, a good one; however I did notice that each of the pre-screened calls taken were opportunities for the Congressman to re-enforce a stance he&#039;s already expressed.  Amusing in a way, to have a &quot;lifer&quot; in D.C. running against the Federal government in this election centered town meeting.  But, we&#039;re probably all too hickish to understand.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They brought in the &#8220;test&#8221; last summer and it was nothing but noise.  The claims in favor are that Gowen already exists (that&#8217;s where the training wing would be, the established would be MHAFB).   They claim it would bring a lot of money into this area.  But, the cost would be in the quality of life I have come to value in my 34+ years here in Boise, the noise pollution alone would degrade our quality of life.  Yes, it would bring about some &#8220;improved&#8221; economic conditions, and create the need for more schools, more fire and police protection, more water demand which is a scary thought with our regular drought cycle, sewer, irrigation, electricity, gas, more cars on (the same number?) or roads.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an opportunity that I believe we can not afford.</p>
<p>I was privileged to participate in Rep. Simpson&#8217;s telephone town-meeting last evening.   Boy, it made me aware of how much more D.C he is now, than he was when he lived in Idaho full-time.  Every question asked was, according to him, a good one; however I did notice that each of the pre-screened calls taken were opportunities for the Congressman to re-enforce a stance he&#8217;s already expressed.  Amusing in a way, to have a &#8220;lifer&#8221; in D.C. running against the Federal government in this election centered town meeting.  But, we&#8217;re probably all too hickish to understand.</p>
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		By: sam the sham		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sam the sham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 04:59:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I love the sound of the F-35 taking off in the morning. One does wonder if that lovely racket were to take place over the foothills and the North End  (genuflect) or if our congress people actually lived on the Boise Bench the F-35 would be as welcome by them. 
Oh, you all know that answer is NO!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the sound of the F-35 taking off in the morning. One does wonder if that lovely racket were to take place over the foothills and the North End  (genuflect) or if our congress people actually lived on the Boise Bench the F-35 would be as welcome by them.<br />
Oh, you all know that answer is NO!</p>
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