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		By: TD		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/02/28/idle-coppers-copy-canyon-commishes/#comment-17111</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 21:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Since we are on the topic of such blatant misuse of city money (idling cars and wasting tax payer money in the process), maybe you, editor, should start a new campaign to rid the police of heinous misuse and waste of money in other areas besides gasoline.

You can start by going after the wasteful misuse of electricity at the police station.  How many officers leave a room with the lights on?  How much money is being wasted there?  You could campaign to have the chief pass a policy that says &quot;Every officer shall turn the light off on a room once he/she leaves it&quot;.  That could save lots of money, I&#039;m sure.

Then what about wasteful water use?  How many officers take 15 minute showers at the station?  Or take two showers a day maybe?  That&#039;s a heinous waste of money and water too.  The chief could put water shutoffs on the showers to only allow for 5 minute showers.  Or, maybe pass another policy limiting the showering time to 5 minutes and only one per day.  Sergeants could monitor this to insure compliance.

I bet there are officers that let the tap run on the sink too while they are brushing their teeth. 

Heinous!  I say.  This too must stop!

We all know where this type of abuse and waste of money leads too.  You need to get on it editor.  Make yourself useful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since we are on the topic of such blatant misuse of city money (idling cars and wasting tax payer money in the process), maybe you, editor, should start a new campaign to rid the police of heinous misuse and waste of money in other areas besides gasoline.</p>
<p>You can start by going after the wasteful misuse of electricity at the police station.  How many officers leave a room with the lights on?  How much money is being wasted there?  You could campaign to have the chief pass a policy that says &#8220;Every officer shall turn the light off on a room once he/she leaves it&#8221;.  That could save lots of money, I&#8217;m sure.</p>
<p>Then what about wasteful water use?  How many officers take 15 minute showers at the station?  Or take two showers a day maybe?  That&#8217;s a heinous waste of money and water too.  The chief could put water shutoffs on the showers to only allow for 5 minute showers.  Or, maybe pass another policy limiting the showering time to 5 minutes and only one per day.  Sergeants could monitor this to insure compliance.</p>
<p>I bet there are officers that let the tap run on the sink too while they are brushing their teeth. </p>
<p>Heinous!  I say.  This too must stop!</p>
<p>We all know where this type of abuse and waste of money leads too.  You need to get on it editor.  Make yourself useful.</p>
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		By: Steve Lewis		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/02/28/idle-coppers-copy-canyon-commishes/#comment-17062</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 06:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OK editor, think about what you just wrote, a key in the ignition means nothing. Every police car parked anywhere in this city that is locked and off could have the window broke out, someone steal the computer, rifle/shotgun, or even hotwire the car to steal it. I get the point of idling and gas etc, but your new rant makes no sense. Thieves now a days know how to overcome may things to get what they want.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK editor, think about what you just wrote, a key in the ignition means nothing. Every police car parked anywhere in this city that is locked and off could have the window broke out, someone steal the computer, rifle/shotgun, or even hotwire the car to steal it. I get the point of idling and gas etc, but your new rant makes no sense. Thieves now a days know how to overcome may things to get what they want.</p>
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		By: Steve Lewis		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/02/28/idle-coppers-copy-canyon-commishes/#comment-17036</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Lewis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 05:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here we go again, lets slam on the PO-LICE for a while longer. Again people, get a LIFE. What were the officers discussing in Moxie, maybe personal things, maybe dope houses in that area, maybe training issues with the dog in question, maybe information being passed on wanted people in the area. You don&#039;t know, and neither do I but I am not going to worry that much about it. As I have said before, they do a job none of you want, they deal with the people you want to be protected from, so cut some slack, how many of you idle your car now and then, its not a felony or a misdemeanor, so CALM DOWN!!

EDITOR NOTE--Steve, the guy said he didn&#039;t have a problem with meeting, coffee, lunch, or anything else.  He just wants them to shut off the car.  While not a felony or misdemeanor, it is a blatant violation of department policy outlined here in bold:
https://boiseguardian.com/2008/07/24/idle-thoughts-on-city-vehicles/ none of those 5 coppers are about to report each other, so the citizen came to the GUARDIAN.  Show me a department that approves of locked cars parked with the key in the ignition and easy access to computer, radio, and rifle/shotgun.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here we go again, lets slam on the PO-LICE for a while longer. Again people, get a LIFE. What were the officers discussing in Moxie, maybe personal things, maybe dope houses in that area, maybe training issues with the dog in question, maybe information being passed on wanted people in the area. You don&#8217;t know, and neither do I but I am not going to worry that much about it. As I have said before, they do a job none of you want, they deal with the people you want to be protected from, so cut some slack, how many of you idle your car now and then, its not a felony or a misdemeanor, so CALM DOWN!!</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Steve, the guy said he didn&#8217;t have a problem with meeting, coffee, lunch, or anything else.  He just wants them to shut off the car.  While not a felony or misdemeanor, it is a blatant violation of department policy outlined here in bold:<br />
<a href="https://boiseguardian.com/2008/07/24/idle-thoughts-on-city-vehicles/" rel="ugc">https://boiseguardian.com/2008/07/24/idle-thoughts-on-city-vehicles/</a> none of those 5 coppers are about to report each other, so the citizen came to the GUARDIAN.  Show me a department that approves of locked cars parked with the key in the ignition and easy access to computer, radio, and rifle/shotgun.</p>
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		By: sam		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/02/28/idle-coppers-copy-canyon-commishes/#comment-17034</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 04:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They keep the cars running to keep all the fancy electronic gear from draining the battery. Kinda like a big semi-diesel that has to run all night. different concept but same thing.

EDITOR NOTE--Not according to the professional fleet services manager the city hired.  The policy detailed here is now adopted by council, chief, etc.:
https://boiseguardian.com/2008/07/24/idle-thoughts-on-city-vehicles/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They keep the cars running to keep all the fancy electronic gear from draining the battery. Kinda like a big semi-diesel that has to run all night. different concept but same thing.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Not according to the professional fleet services manager the city hired.  The policy detailed here is now adopted by council, chief, etc.:<br />
<a href="https://boiseguardian.com/2008/07/24/idle-thoughts-on-city-vehicles/" rel="ugc">https://boiseguardian.com/2008/07/24/idle-thoughts-on-city-vehicles/</a></p>
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		By: cyclops		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/02/28/idle-coppers-copy-canyon-commishes/#comment-17033</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 04:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll tell you one thing for sure Dog. If we put every pot user in jail, we sure wouldn&#039;t have an unemplyment problem. Hell, half the town would be in the slammer!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll tell you one thing for sure Dog. If we put every pot user in jail, we sure wouldn&#8217;t have an unemplyment problem. Hell, half the town would be in the slammer!</p>
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		By: dog		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/02/28/idle-coppers-copy-canyon-commishes/#comment-17028</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 00:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[LJ, thanks for the info. I guess it&#039;s about protecting our community. Pot smoker in jail, DBSI scammers, most white collar crimes, nothing. Makes a lot of sense doesn&#039;t it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LJ, thanks for the info. I guess it&#8217;s about protecting our community. Pot smoker in jail, DBSI scammers, most white collar crimes, nothing. Makes a lot of sense doesn&#8217;t it.</p>
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		By: Larry		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/02/28/idle-coppers-copy-canyon-commishes/#comment-17022</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was doing a little reading and it seems this has been a problem about every year for our area.   I never thought about the risk of radios and guns being taken with the car.  I did notice the glare of the computer monitors, could someone read private information on suspects or traffic stops thru the windows?

EDITOR NOTE-- Like any computer, it depends on what screen is left open as to the info displayed.  Here is a link to previous posts:  https://boiseguardian.com/2008/07/24/idle-thoughts-on-city-vehicles/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was doing a little reading and it seems this has been a problem about every year for our area.   I never thought about the risk of radios and guns being taken with the car.  I did notice the glare of the computer monitors, could someone read private information on suspects or traffic stops thru the windows?</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211; Like any computer, it depends on what screen is left open as to the info displayed.  Here is a link to previous posts:  <a href="https://boiseguardian.com/2008/07/24/idle-thoughts-on-city-vehicles/" rel="ugc">https://boiseguardian.com/2008/07/24/idle-thoughts-on-city-vehicles/</a></p>
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		By: LJ		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/02/28/idle-coppers-copy-canyon-commishes/#comment-17014</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 03:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dog,

Ada prosecutors don&#039;t routinely ask for the MAXIMUM penalty.  Maybe you should do a little research if you think they do.  A misdemeanor is punishable by up to 365 days in jail.  Take the example you mentioned - paraphernalia and possession of marijuana.  Two misdemeanors, so he was eligible for 730 days in jail, and the prosecutor asked for 90.  A little shy of the maximum?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dog,</p>
<p>Ada prosecutors don&#8217;t routinely ask for the MAXIMUM penalty.  Maybe you should do a little research if you think they do.  A misdemeanor is punishable by up to 365 days in jail.  Take the example you mentioned &#8211; paraphernalia and possession of marijuana.  Two misdemeanors, so he was eligible for 730 days in jail, and the prosecutor asked for 90.  A little shy of the maximum?</p>
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		By: dog		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/02/28/idle-coppers-copy-canyon-commishes/#comment-17011</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 00:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It doesn&#039;t matter what you citizens think. Cops do what ever they want and the county prosecutors back them all the way. Many judges do to.
Ada County prosecutors routinely recommend maximum penalty for any misdemeanor or felony, causing huge overcrowding problems in the jails and costing taxpayers a fortune.
A kid on our street got caught with a pot pipe and about a thimble of pot, pleaded guilty and the prosecutor asked the judge for a sentence of 90 days in jail, mandatory supervised probation and maximum fines totaling over $1200.00. Thankfully this judge thought the prosecutors recommended sentence was outrageous, especially the jail time for a first offense. I am outraged as a taxpayer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter what you citizens think. Cops do what ever they want and the county prosecutors back them all the way. Many judges do to.<br />
Ada County prosecutors routinely recommend maximum penalty for any misdemeanor or felony, causing huge overcrowding problems in the jails and costing taxpayers a fortune.<br />
A kid on our street got caught with a pot pipe and about a thimble of pot, pleaded guilty and the prosecutor asked the judge for a sentence of 90 days in jail, mandatory supervised probation and maximum fines totaling over $1200.00. Thankfully this judge thought the prosecutors recommended sentence was outrageous, especially the jail time for a first offense. I am outraged as a taxpayer.</p>
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		By: Gordon		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/02/28/idle-coppers-copy-canyon-commishes/#comment-17001</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gordon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Were their car doors locked? Or were they just *inviting* any passing citizen -- adult or kid -- to take their nice, fast vehicles for a joy ride?

EDITOR NOTE--In the past we have observed similar situations and the coppers do lock the vehicles, apparently using the electric key fob to open the doors.  One concern--as you mention--is someone popping a window and making off with a car full of guns, radios, and a computer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Were their car doors locked? Or were they just *inviting* any passing citizen &#8212; adult or kid &#8212; to take their nice, fast vehicles for a joy ride?</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;In the past we have observed similar situations and the coppers do lock the vehicles, apparently using the electric key fob to open the doors.  One concern&#8211;as you mention&#8211;is someone popping a window and making off with a car full of guns, radios, and a computer.</p>
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