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		By: Rod in SE Boise		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/03/16/voters-get-chance-to-abolish-right-to-vote/#comment-17539</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rod in SE Boise]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 12:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Fact check for Bikeboy.  A very quick check of my records shows that my wife &#038; I paid more taxes to state and local governments than we did to the federal government in 2009, and I didn&#039;t even have to try to calculate how much sales tax we paid to the state of Idaho.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fact check for Bikeboy.  A very quick check of my records shows that my wife &amp; I paid more taxes to state and local governments than we did to the federal government in 2009, and I didn&#8217;t even have to try to calculate how much sales tax we paid to the state of Idaho.</p>
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		By: dog		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/03/16/voters-get-chance-to-abolish-right-to-vote/#comment-17525</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[OK G-Man, I&#039;ll concede that perhaps some of the ones who post here might not roll.  You can bet your readers will. The TPTY unfortunately will fall over itself in welcoming the F35 squadron and all the development it will supposedly bring. This bill supports that effort as reported by Mr. Miller. 
The politicians see this as a free jobs bill. Imagine, creating jobs and business at no cost to taxpayers. So what if it shifts expense to Boise tax payers! Most of the guys in the Leg live in rural Idaho. AND IT&#039;S PATRIOTIC.  If you didn&#039;t support this bill it makes you look anti jobs and against America.
The Idaho status quo will win in May TPTY be damed. If I&#039;m wrong, I&#039;ll buy lunch. (if I have a job)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK G-Man, I&#8217;ll concede that perhaps some of the ones who post here might not roll.  You can bet your readers will. The TPTY unfortunately will fall over itself in welcoming the F35 squadron and all the development it will supposedly bring. This bill supports that effort as reported by Mr. Miller.<br />
The politicians see this as a free jobs bill. Imagine, creating jobs and business at no cost to taxpayers. So what if it shifts expense to Boise tax payers! Most of the guys in the Leg live in rural Idaho. AND IT&#8217;S PATRIOTIC.  If you didn&#8217;t support this bill it makes you look anti jobs and against America.<br />
The Idaho status quo will win in May TPTY be damed. If I&#8217;m wrong, I&#8217;ll buy lunch. (if I have a job)</p>
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		By: cyclops		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/03/16/voters-get-chance-to-abolish-right-to-vote/#comment-17524</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cyclops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not so sure he is wrong here Guardian. Given the dismal turnout in elections over the past 10-15 years, when the multi- million ad campaign comes out in October (paid for with our money) there will be an awful lot of people sucked in. Certainly not the regular readers of the Guardian, but still the majority of a very small minority that votes.

EDITOR NOTE--Since it is now on the ballot officially, don&#039;t forget the supreme court ruling AGAINST using public funds or resources to campaign for one side of an issue (Ameritel Inns vs G-BAD).  We will be watching closely for any abuse of the law on that issue.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not so sure he is wrong here Guardian. Given the dismal turnout in elections over the past 10-15 years, when the multi- million ad campaign comes out in October (paid for with our money) there will be an awful lot of people sucked in. Certainly not the regular readers of the Guardian, but still the majority of a very small minority that votes.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Since it is now on the ballot officially, don&#8217;t forget the supreme court ruling AGAINST using public funds or resources to campaign for one side of an issue (Ameritel Inns vs G-BAD).  We will be watching closely for any abuse of the law on that issue.</p>
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		By: dog		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/03/16/voters-get-chance-to-abolish-right-to-vote/#comment-17520</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 23:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You guys will all cave when it comes time to vote. The R&#039;s who support this bill will tell you the other guy&#039;s going to take your guns, burn the flag, bring on socialism, abort your daughter, let illegals vote, make you test your car, get rid of God, prohibit prayer in public, raise your taxes, license your cat, and send your parents to a government death panel.
The Tea Party folks will roll on this. Just you watch. Why? Because Americans are pathetic on the real issue of who runs the program. They are going to scare you into supporting this bill and they know most won&#039;t even bother to vote. American Idol or basket ball is way more important. Keep being a patriotic American, vote R.

EDITOR NOTE--Dog, gotta disagree on this one.  You are talking GUARDIAN people and they come from Dems, Rs, Ls, and TPTY.  You aren&#039;t preaching to Daily Paper people here!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys will all cave when it comes time to vote. The R&#8217;s who support this bill will tell you the other guy&#8217;s going to take your guns, burn the flag, bring on socialism, abort your daughter, let illegals vote, make you test your car, get rid of God, prohibit prayer in public, raise your taxes, license your cat, and send your parents to a government death panel.<br />
The Tea Party folks will roll on this. Just you watch. Why? Because Americans are pathetic on the real issue of who runs the program. They are going to scare you into supporting this bill and they know most won&#8217;t even bother to vote. American Idol or basket ball is way more important. Keep being a patriotic American, vote R.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Dog, gotta disagree on this one.  You are talking GUARDIAN people and they come from Dems, Rs, Ls, and TPTY.  You aren&#8217;t preaching to Daily Paper people here!</p>
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		By: ya right		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/03/16/voters-get-chance-to-abolish-right-to-vote/#comment-17519</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ya right]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In all seriousness how many voters here in Idaho and across the nation have gone to cast their votes, and are STUCK with the choice of the lessor of two evils because they are the ONLY names on the ballot besides a possible write in. Let&#039;s face it writing in Mickey Mouse just doesn&#039;t cut it.

  The way our politicians have treated us over the course of the last decade or so they have proven that they don&#039;t give a damn about what WE THE PEOPLE want, so help us out Guardian.. PLEASE... let&#039;s see some NEW names on the ballots next time around I for one would select ANY name over the same old crooks that are there time and time again and basically win by default.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In all seriousness how many voters here in Idaho and across the nation have gone to cast their votes, and are STUCK with the choice of the lessor of two evils because they are the ONLY names on the ballot besides a possible write in. Let&#8217;s face it writing in Mickey Mouse just doesn&#8217;t cut it.</p>
<p>  The way our politicians have treated us over the course of the last decade or so they have proven that they don&#8217;t give a damn about what WE THE PEOPLE want, so help us out Guardian.. PLEASE&#8230; let&#8217;s see some NEW names on the ballots next time around I for one would select ANY name over the same old crooks that are there time and time again and basically win by default.</p>
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		By: Rod in SE Boise		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/03/16/voters-get-chance-to-abolish-right-to-vote/#comment-17514</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rod in SE Boise]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Comrade???  Wasn&#039;t it the Soviet system that had an informer on every block?  Just the kind of local abuse of police power I often object to on this website.

For every example of federal government lunacy you guys can come up with I can come up with 2 or 3 examples of state or local nuttiness or abuse.  Just right off the top of my head - trolley, tazer (and other examples of police brutality too numberous to go into), bus service, train depot, testing emmissions on Ada Country cars but not Canyon county cars, approving more subdivision lots than can ever be sold and built on, only raising lot rents on state land (Payette Lake, etc) from almost nothing to next to nothing, right to work, sueing the federal government, trash cans, etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comrade???  Wasn&#8217;t it the Soviet system that had an informer on every block?  Just the kind of local abuse of police power I often object to on this website.</p>
<p>For every example of federal government lunacy you guys can come up with I can come up with 2 or 3 examples of state or local nuttiness or abuse.  Just right off the top of my head &#8211; trolley, tazer (and other examples of police brutality too numberous to go into), bus service, train depot, testing emmissions on Ada Country cars but not Canyon county cars, approving more subdivision lots than can ever be sold and built on, only raising lot rents on state land (Payette Lake, etc) from almost nothing to next to nothing, right to work, sueing the federal government, trash cans, etc.</p>
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		By: ya right		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/03/16/voters-get-chance-to-abolish-right-to-vote/#comment-17510</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ya right]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mr. Editor


   PLEASE PLEASE post names of those that voted for this sham, also a suggestion:

   For too long in this country we have dealt with CAREER politicians who have caused this mess we are in, how about the Guardian start providing info and support for &quot;citizen statesmen&quot; to run for some of these political offices....

   Isn&#039;t that the way it is supposed to be? you leave your job, farm, career behind for a term in offcie then GO BACK! Not make a lifetime career out of fleecing the people who elected you.

EDITOR NOTE--All but about 5 voted in favor including both House and Senate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Editor</p>
<p>   PLEASE PLEASE post names of those that voted for this sham, also a suggestion:</p>
<p>   For too long in this country we have dealt with CAREER politicians who have caused this mess we are in, how about the Guardian start providing info and support for &#8220;citizen statesmen&#8221; to run for some of these political offices&#8230;.</p>
<p>   Isn&#8217;t that the way it is supposed to be? you leave your job, farm, career behind for a term in offcie then GO BACK! Not make a lifetime career out of fleecing the people who elected you.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;All but about 5 voted in favor including both House and Senate.</p>
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		By: Paul		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[note to Robert(and others):

As Americans we have a pretty abysmal record for participation in the electoral process.  The primary this May will probably have less than a 20% turnout. The general election in the Fall not much better.  

Politicians know this and are counting on the fact most people are just not going to take the time and trouble to vote.  The TEA PARTY efforts may actually change this.  We will have to wait and see if people are fed up with the status quo.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>note to Robert(and others):</p>
<p>As Americans we have a pretty abysmal record for participation in the electoral process.  The primary this May will probably have less than a 20% turnout. The general election in the Fall not much better.  </p>
<p>Politicians know this and are counting on the fact most people are just not going to take the time and trouble to vote.  The TEA PARTY efforts may actually change this.  We will have to wait and see if people are fed up with the status quo.</p>
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		By: bikeboy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bikeboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rod: &lt;i&gt;We have much more to fear from our state and local governments than we do from Washington.&lt;/i&gt;

Delusional!

The State is compelled to balance the budget every year.  They will never bankrupt us.  (Actually our kids and grandkids and THEIR grandkids.)  More than 40 cents of every &lt;i&gt;federal&lt;/i&gt; dollar is going to pay the interest!

Imagine if there were a &lt;i&gt;federal&lt;/i&gt; Balanced Budget Amendment!

Imagine if 2/3 of the voters had to approve any long-term federal debt.  I bet we&#039;d have a lot less of it.

If you like how the Feds spend your money, just sign away your right to approve or reject how the local entities spend it.  (So your arrogant state and local &quot;representatives&quot; can pat you on the head and remind you that &lt;i&gt;they&lt;/i&gt; know what&#039;s best for you.  And that &lt;i&gt;they&lt;/i&gt; know better than you do, how your money should be spent.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rod: <i>We have much more to fear from our state and local governments than we do from Washington.</i></p>
<p>Delusional!</p>
<p>The State is compelled to balance the budget every year.  They will never bankrupt us.  (Actually our kids and grandkids and THEIR grandkids.)  More than 40 cents of every <i>federal</i> dollar is going to pay the interest!</p>
<p>Imagine if there were a <i>federal</i> Balanced Budget Amendment!</p>
<p>Imagine if 2/3 of the voters had to approve any long-term federal debt.  I bet we&#8217;d have a lot less of it.</p>
<p>If you like how the Feds spend your money, just sign away your right to approve or reject how the local entities spend it.  (So your arrogant state and local &#8220;representatives&#8221; can pat you on the head and remind you that <i>they</i> know what&#8217;s best for you.  And that <i>they</i> know better than you do, how your money should be spent.)</p>
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		By: Clancy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clancy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Kappa TA-- That is one of the best comments ever written at the BG.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kappa TA&#8211; That is one of the best comments ever written at the BG.</p>
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