<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	
	>
<channel>
	<title>
	Comments on: Citywide Conservation Areas, Not Just Foothills	</title>
	<atom:link href="https://boiseguardian.com/2010/03/24/4428/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/03/24/4428/</link>
	<description>A different slant on the news.</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 02:39:49 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>
	hourly	</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>
	1	</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4</generator>
	<item>
		<title>
		By: Blazing Saddle		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/03/24/4428/#comment-17689</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blazing Saddle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Mar 2010 02:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://boiseguardian.com/?p=4428#comment-17689</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[I rest my case.  

Now all we need is Armstrong, Pechennino, Cook and Wall to come crawling out of their coffins, like a bunch of un-dead environmental destruction vampires.  Walking around with their arms out, proclaiming in monotones, &quot;The best way to save the foothills is to destroy the foothills.  The Cliffs was environmentally sound.  It was.  It was. . . . . &quot; 

I&#039;m leaving, before someone starts believing this tripe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I rest my case.  </p>
<p>Now all we need is Armstrong, Pechennino, Cook and Wall to come crawling out of their coffins, like a bunch of un-dead environmental destruction vampires.  Walking around with their arms out, proclaiming in monotones, &#8220;The best way to save the foothills is to destroy the foothills.  The Cliffs was environmentally sound.  It was.  It was. . . . . &#8221; </p>
<p>I&#8217;m leaving, before someone starts believing this tripe.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Dean Gunderson		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/03/24/4428/#comment-17687</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dean Gunderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 22:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://boiseguardian.com/?p=4428#comment-17687</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[Blazing Saddle,

Avimore isn&#039;t in the portion of the foothills Boise City identified in its Foothills Policy Plan. That is, even if the County would have adopted the Plan, there isn&#039;t anything in the document that would have stopped Avimore.

One of the concerns I had when I work for the County regarding the Foothills Plan was the odd way the foothills were carved up. The Plan excludes foothills west of SH 55, and Ada County foothills north of Shadow Valley Gold Course. Nor does the Plan include any foothills south and east of the Boise River. You can see this for yourself in Figure 1-1 of the Foothills Policy Plan (page 3).

The Plan wouldn&#039;t have prohibited development on Hammer Flats either -- though it would have increased the amount of acreage being &quot;preserved&quot; from 315 acres to 473 acres, it would not have required the developer to remove any invasive plant species, let alone require him to restore any wildlife habitat.

One of the more pressing concerns regarding habitat restoration on Hammer Flats is the area&#039;s lack of water. This is one of the reasons deer migrate from Hammer Flat, down to lower elevations to cross Warm Springs Avenue to get to the Boise River. As part of the habitat restoration plan for The Cliffs,  the County ensured that native plant species forage, and a permanent source of water, would be provided on the 315 acres that were to be permanently preserved. 

Skyline Development also obligated itself to a perpetual 1% transfer fee on all parcel sales at The Cliffs; which would initially go towards habitat restoration on Hammer Flat -- and once the habitat there was restored, the proceeds of the fund would have been spent on habitat restoration projects and easement acquisition or fee simple ownership of Open Space throughout the region. 

I voted for the levy the first time it came up for vote, and I would vote for an extension. But, I would like the public planning community to leverage the meager public purse by engaging private land owners in its bid to restore and preserve wildlife habitat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blazing Saddle,</p>
<p>Avimore isn&#8217;t in the portion of the foothills Boise City identified in its Foothills Policy Plan. That is, even if the County would have adopted the Plan, there isn&#8217;t anything in the document that would have stopped Avimore.</p>
<p>One of the concerns I had when I work for the County regarding the Foothills Plan was the odd way the foothills were carved up. The Plan excludes foothills west of SH 55, and Ada County foothills north of Shadow Valley Gold Course. Nor does the Plan include any foothills south and east of the Boise River. You can see this for yourself in Figure 1-1 of the Foothills Policy Plan (page 3).</p>
<p>The Plan wouldn&#8217;t have prohibited development on Hammer Flats either &#8212; though it would have increased the amount of acreage being &#8220;preserved&#8221; from 315 acres to 473 acres, it would not have required the developer to remove any invasive plant species, let alone require him to restore any wildlife habitat.</p>
<p>One of the more pressing concerns regarding habitat restoration on Hammer Flats is the area&#8217;s lack of water. This is one of the reasons deer migrate from Hammer Flat, down to lower elevations to cross Warm Springs Avenue to get to the Boise River. As part of the habitat restoration plan for The Cliffs,  the County ensured that native plant species forage, and a permanent source of water, would be provided on the 315 acres that were to be permanently preserved. </p>
<p>Skyline Development also obligated itself to a perpetual 1% transfer fee on all parcel sales at The Cliffs; which would initially go towards habitat restoration on Hammer Flat &#8212; and once the habitat there was restored, the proceeds of the fund would have been spent on habitat restoration projects and easement acquisition or fee simple ownership of Open Space throughout the region. </p>
<p>I voted for the levy the first time it came up for vote, and I would vote for an extension. But, I would like the public planning community to leverage the meager public purse by engaging private land owners in its bid to restore and preserve wildlife habitat.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Blazing Saddle		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/03/24/4428/#comment-17679</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Blazing Saddle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 12:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://boiseguardian.com/?p=4428#comment-17679</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[Seems to me that you can tell the value of some things by the lengths people will go to look like they were on the right side    We’ve even got ol Judy talking of the city’s need to connect the dots. I seem to remember that she was part of the commission that declined to adopt the Foothills Policy Plan, and voted for both Avimor and The Cliffs, thus throwing into disarray the people’s desire to connect Boise’s “dots” to the foothills.  But, hell, i suppose we all make mistakes.  Maybe she is born again.  If she is willing to change her spots, I nominate her to head the next Foothills Levy Promotion campaign.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me that you can tell the value of some things by the lengths people will go to look like they were on the right side    We’ve even got ol Judy talking of the city’s need to connect the dots. I seem to remember that she was part of the commission that declined to adopt the Foothills Policy Plan, and voted for both Avimor and The Cliffs, thus throwing into disarray the people’s desire to connect Boise’s “dots” to the foothills.  But, hell, i suppose we all make mistakes.  Maybe she is born again.  If she is willing to change her spots, I nominate her to head the next Foothills Levy Promotion campaign.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Foothills Fan		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/03/24/4428/#comment-17676</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Foothills Fan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 03:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://boiseguardian.com/?p=4428#comment-17676</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[The Guardian is right that the City’s promotion of the Levy vote was illegal.  They shouldn’t have done it.  However, local voters saw through the same tactics on the way to denying two convention center votes and any number of school levy votes.  In the case of the Foothills Levy, the voters finally saw something they liked, subterfuge and all, and passed it by a substantial margin. 

There is never a good time to raise taxes. However, and it certainly wasn’t as bad as this one, but it is worth remembering that the original Foothills levy was passed during the recession of 2001 -2002.

On the legacy media’s online story of the purchase of Hammer Flat, the comments were about 10 to 1 in favor of the result.  I would vote for another one in a heartbeat.  Bring it on.

EDITOR NOTE--The convention center votes were AFTER the Foothills levy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Guardian is right that the City’s promotion of the Levy vote was illegal.  They shouldn’t have done it.  However, local voters saw through the same tactics on the way to denying two convention center votes and any number of school levy votes.  In the case of the Foothills Levy, the voters finally saw something they liked, subterfuge and all, and passed it by a substantial margin. </p>
<p>There is never a good time to raise taxes. However, and it certainly wasn’t as bad as this one, but it is worth remembering that the original Foothills levy was passed during the recession of 2001 -2002.</p>
<p>On the legacy media’s online story of the purchase of Hammer Flat, the comments were about 10 to 1 in favor of the result.  I would vote for another one in a heartbeat.  Bring it on.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;The convention center votes were AFTER the Foothills levy.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Grumpy ole guy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/03/24/4428/#comment-17673</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grumpy ole guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 23:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://boiseguardian.com/?p=4428#comment-17673</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[I could easily get off of my grumpy stump and get behind a levy extension or renewal or whatever.  I think one of the winning features of the earlier one (for which I voted) was that it was for a limited time, although I remember thinking that a three year one made more sense at that time, don&#039;t remember why, though.   And, I really, really like preserving ALL of the forms of natural area we have, that is, after all, one of the greatest things about this area, its diversity.   Although, to keep my grumpy credential up-to-date, the F-35s wing would be a big part of an unnatural environment.   Since the foothills are outside of Boise, but within the area of impact, I would hope that the area of impact could be the range of any new or additional effort.  When visiting in New York City, I was startled to see that the Cloisters garden has a patch of space about 4 x 10 feet devoted to neatly maintained rows of weeds, including one of dandelions.  I hope that Boise kids and adults never have to see a &quot;tended display&quot; of anything so natural to the environment.

BTW  -  GREAT Photos.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could easily get off of my grumpy stump and get behind a levy extension or renewal or whatever.  I think one of the winning features of the earlier one (for which I voted) was that it was for a limited time, although I remember thinking that a three year one made more sense at that time, don&#8217;t remember why, though.   And, I really, really like preserving ALL of the forms of natural area we have, that is, after all, one of the greatest things about this area, its diversity.   Although, to keep my grumpy credential up-to-date, the F-35s wing would be a big part of an unnatural environment.   Since the foothills are outside of Boise, but within the area of impact, I would hope that the area of impact could be the range of any new or additional effort.  When visiting in New York City, I was startled to see that the Cloisters garden has a patch of space about 4 x 10 feet devoted to neatly maintained rows of weeds, including one of dandelions.  I hope that Boise kids and adults never have to see a &#8220;tended display&#8221; of anything so natural to the environment.</p>
<p>BTW  &#8211;  GREAT Photos.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Clippityclop		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/03/24/4428/#comment-17671</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clippityclop]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 22:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://boiseguardian.com/?p=4428#comment-17671</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[I propose a County-wide, voluntary tax-deductible fund for foothills acquisition that the citizenry could chose to convert to a levy, by voting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I propose a County-wide, voluntary tax-deductible fund for foothills acquisition that the citizenry could chose to convert to a levy, by voting.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Antiphobe		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/03/24/4428/#comment-17661</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Antiphobe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 02:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://boiseguardian.com/?p=4428#comment-17661</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[Hey &quot;dog&quot; that is a great idea.  And if you (an individual) go out in the County and buy some acreage and build a house on it, should we also require you to pay for an equivalent area of wildlife easement?  No...that probably doesn&#039;t seem fair does it?  Careful what you wish for - what&#039;s good for the goose...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey &#8220;dog&#8221; that is a great idea.  And if you (an individual) go out in the County and buy some acreage and build a house on it, should we also require you to pay for an equivalent area of wildlife easement?  No&#8230;that probably doesn&#8217;t seem fair does it?  Careful what you wish for &#8211; what&#8217;s good for the goose&#8230;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: dog		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/03/24/4428/#comment-17644</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 23:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://boiseguardian.com/?p=4428#comment-17644</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[I agree with the G-man, but I do think the Hammer Flats aquisition was a good idea. How about developers paying for wildlife easements? Acre for acre paved over. Also ACHD should set aside land for nature when they widen and pave. 
Wow, did I just say that stuff? I must be a liberal/socalist/progressive /commie/pinko/ enviro/ satanist North End nature wimp for suggesting such an idea.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the G-man, but I do think the Hammer Flats aquisition was a good idea. How about developers paying for wildlife easements? Acre for acre paved over. Also ACHD should set aside land for nature when they widen and pave.<br />
Wow, did I just say that stuff? I must be a liberal/socalist/progressive /commie/pinko/ enviro/ satanist North End nature wimp for suggesting such an idea.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Zippo		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/03/24/4428/#comment-17623</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zippo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 18:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://boiseguardian.com/?p=4428#comment-17623</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[Better get the critters out of your yard while the law still allows... in Seattle they&#039;ll make you move if a fox moves in under the house.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better get the critters out of your yard while the law still allows&#8230; in Seattle they&#8217;ll make you move if a fox moves in under the house.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Antiphobe		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/03/24/4428/#comment-17618</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Antiphobe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://boiseguardian.com/?p=4428#comment-17618</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[Noble cause, terrible timing.  The last thing our already beaten down taxpayers need right now is an additional cost burden.  Stay involved, keep planning for the future, but don&#039;t push your luck and alienate the tax base in today&#039;s economic climate.  That&#039;s my two cents.  Free of charge!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noble cause, terrible timing.  The last thing our already beaten down taxpayers need right now is an additional cost burden.  Stay involved, keep planning for the future, but don&#8217;t push your luck and alienate the tax base in today&#8217;s economic climate.  That&#8217;s my two cents.  Free of charge!!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
	</channel>
</rss>
