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		By: Diane		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/04/15/4530/#comment-19895</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Diane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 19:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[dog, you miss the most important factor of all.  The intense addiction to sports.  Football season is almost here, and parents will begin ignoring their children&#039;s needs for those of the bronco team.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dog, you miss the most important factor of all.  The intense addiction to sports.  Football season is almost here, and parents will begin ignoring their children&#8217;s needs for those of the bronco team.</p>
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		By: dog		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/04/15/4530/#comment-18189</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 05:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey, this idea doesn&#039;t pass the Tea Party &quot;socialistic&quot; litmus test.  Come to think of it, pro sprts like football don&#039;t pass the test as well.  Get after it Tea Party.  End socialistic sports in America!  If sports costs tax payer money, we don&#039;t want it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, this idea doesn&#8217;t pass the Tea Party &#8220;socialistic&#8221; litmus test.  Come to think of it, pro sprts like football don&#8217;t pass the test as well.  Get after it Tea Party.  End socialistic sports in America!  If sports costs tax payer money, we don&#8217;t want it.</p>
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		By: Zippo		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/04/15/4530/#comment-18180</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zippo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Dean Gunderson		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/04/15/4530/#comment-18161</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dean Gunderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The second aerial picture in the article shows the 2800 Fairview site, with the outline in a heavy dashed black line. The &quot;site&quot; includes the two adjacent lots that front Main Street. But, no single site would be enough to accommodate both the ball park AND its required parking.

Regarding transit, and the possibility that a downtown steel-wheeled transit system could be brought to this site, it is possible -- though not very probable gien the per-mile cost of such a system. Re-opening the Orchard spur line from the Bench, over the Boise River, down to Government Island -- for a Valley-wide Light Rail system is more foward-thinking, because it intercepts commuters before they need to drive into downtown Boise.

In terms of economic development, the boosterism for a steel-wheel downtown trolley from CCDC seems odd for a re-development agency -- since such a system would only bring in a marginal number of additional customers to the downtown. It really only allows the existing downtown workers and retail customers to move around more easily. Is that what downtown businesses prefer? Or would the prefer a bigger slice of the retail market, that a large destination venue would bring?

Bringing an attraction like a Minor League ball park, actually brings more people to the surrounding area. There are a number of cities around the country that have worked the numbers and realized the economic benefit such a venue can be -- to the extent that they contributed public funds to the development. It&#039;s up to Boise to do the same -- or not.

The one thing Meridian has going for it, is it&#039;s relative centrality to the Valley&#039;s residential population. But is this needed for a destination venue -- especially one that would seem to require the majority of event attendees to travel on an over-glutted Interstate Highway &#038; Interchange? 

I&#039;m afraid this wouldn&#039;t change much in the future, even after the 10-Mile Interchange is opened. There&#039;s little that State Tax Allotment Revenue or additional GARVEE funds could do to change this. And, I&#039;m not sure local Redevelopment Funds can be spent on a Federal Interstate improvement (like an expanded Interchange) -- but I may be wrong. If Meridian chose a transit friendly location near the existing rail spur line, when (if) a Light Rail transit service is added to the Valley, it could draw transit riders from both Boise and Nampa.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The second aerial picture in the article shows the 2800 Fairview site, with the outline in a heavy dashed black line. The &#8220;site&#8221; includes the two adjacent lots that front Main Street. But, no single site would be enough to accommodate both the ball park AND its required parking.</p>
<p>Regarding transit, and the possibility that a downtown steel-wheeled transit system could be brought to this site, it is possible &#8212; though not very probable gien the per-mile cost of such a system. Re-opening the Orchard spur line from the Bench, over the Boise River, down to Government Island &#8212; for a Valley-wide Light Rail system is more foward-thinking, because it intercepts commuters before they need to drive into downtown Boise.</p>
<p>In terms of economic development, the boosterism for a steel-wheel downtown trolley from CCDC seems odd for a re-development agency &#8212; since such a system would only bring in a marginal number of additional customers to the downtown. It really only allows the existing downtown workers and retail customers to move around more easily. Is that what downtown businesses prefer? Or would the prefer a bigger slice of the retail market, that a large destination venue would bring?</p>
<p>Bringing an attraction like a Minor League ball park, actually brings more people to the surrounding area. There are a number of cities around the country that have worked the numbers and realized the economic benefit such a venue can be &#8212; to the extent that they contributed public funds to the development. It&#8217;s up to Boise to do the same &#8212; or not.</p>
<p>The one thing Meridian has going for it, is it&#8217;s relative centrality to the Valley&#8217;s residential population. But is this needed for a destination venue &#8212; especially one that would seem to require the majority of event attendees to travel on an over-glutted Interstate Highway &amp; Interchange? </p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid this wouldn&#8217;t change much in the future, even after the 10-Mile Interchange is opened. There&#8217;s little that State Tax Allotment Revenue or additional GARVEE funds could do to change this. And, I&#8217;m not sure local Redevelopment Funds can be spent on a Federal Interstate improvement (like an expanded Interchange) &#8212; but I may be wrong. If Meridian chose a transit friendly location near the existing rail spur line, when (if) a Light Rail transit service is added to the Valley, it could draw transit riders from both Boise and Nampa.</p>
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		By: JJ		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/04/15/4530/#comment-18160</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[estimate parking at one parking space for every three seats, or about 1700 for a 5,000 seat stadium.  Add 100 or so for laydown, vendors, employees, etc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>estimate parking at one parking space for every three seats, or about 1700 for a 5,000 seat stadium.  Add 100 or so for laydown, vendors, employees, etc.</p>
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		By: boisecynic		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/04/15/4530/#comment-18158</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dean, The red outlined shape does not look like the city owned Fairview site at all. It looks more like the Bob Rice Ford site west of 30th and north of Main. 

Regardless, this came up at the 30th Street Master Plan charette meetings in Feb of 2007. It was determined by the hired urban planning guns, HDR, that neither of those sites, as they currently sit, was big enough for a minor league stadium.

I superimposed Fresno&#039;s stadium on the Bob Rice site 3 years ago. It fit but with no room for parking.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dean, The red outlined shape does not look like the city owned Fairview site at all. It looks more like the Bob Rice Ford site west of 30th and north of Main. </p>
<p>Regardless, this came up at the 30th Street Master Plan charette meetings in Feb of 2007. It was determined by the hired urban planning guns, HDR, that neither of those sites, as they currently sit, was big enough for a minor league stadium.</p>
<p>I superimposed Fresno&#8217;s stadium on the Bob Rice site 3 years ago. It fit but with no room for parking.</p>
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		By: Anthony Burmeister		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/04/15/4530/#comment-18156</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anthony Burmeister]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 12:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting to see all the hoopla around the Hawks. Just wondering if they are taking into account the mosquito factor like the current stadium seems to have forgotten when it was built. Also, DEAN, your last comments are dangerous as you mentioned it the parking structure would make sense if they built a more robust transit system. This kind of thinking could help the city renew their efforts to build the Trolley by saying they would run it to the parking structure and therefore relieving downtown traffic, builds the trolley and best of all, it allows those in charge to validate all they have said about what a great thing the trolley is. LOL, wonder if the politicos have figured out how to wrap up the stadium and trolley together yet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting to see all the hoopla around the Hawks. Just wondering if they are taking into account the mosquito factor like the current stadium seems to have forgotten when it was built. Also, DEAN, your last comments are dangerous as you mentioned it the parking structure would make sense if they built a more robust transit system. This kind of thinking could help the city renew their efforts to build the Trolley by saying they would run it to the parking structure and therefore relieving downtown traffic, builds the trolley and best of all, it allows those in charge to validate all they have said about what a great thing the trolley is. LOL, wonder if the politicos have figured out how to wrap up the stadium and trolley together yet.</p>
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		By: dog		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/04/15/4530/#comment-18153</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 04:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow, I didn&#039;t know there was anything near 5000 Hawks baseball fans.  Is is possible to scalp a Hawks ticket?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I didn&#8217;t know there was anything near 5000 Hawks baseball fans.  Is is possible to scalp a Hawks ticket?</p>
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		By: Kappa TA		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/04/15/4530/#comment-18144</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kappa TA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Apr 2010 03:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just the facts from your Meridian neighbor: The Meridian Development Corp.&#039;s Shaun Wardle was scheduled to meet with Boise Hawks President Todd Rahr on April 14 to discuss a possible new Memorial Stadium in Meridian. MDC commissioners could approve a $25,000 feasibility study to determine the total cost of the project, the location of the new stadium and a way to pay for it. I don&#039;t know the outcome of the meeting. New Meridian Economic Development Administrator Brenda Sherwood will address the Meridian Chamber of Commerce Tuesday, April 20 at the Courtyard by Marriott, 1789 S. Eagle Rd (off Overland.) Maybe she&#039;ll have some details. Reservations for the monthly luncheon were due by Friday, but seating might still be available. Call 888-2817 for details.

I still cannot visualize any site in downtown Meridian that could support this project without major traffic headaches and noise. Let you know if I hear more about the study, location, etc. FYI: Meridian also has Fairview Avenue, Main Street and 9th Street, which is what confused me on the graphic.

KTA]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just the facts from your Meridian neighbor: The Meridian Development Corp.&#8217;s Shaun Wardle was scheduled to meet with Boise Hawks President Todd Rahr on April 14 to discuss a possible new Memorial Stadium in Meridian. MDC commissioners could approve a $25,000 feasibility study to determine the total cost of the project, the location of the new stadium and a way to pay for it. I don&#8217;t know the outcome of the meeting. New Meridian Economic Development Administrator Brenda Sherwood will address the Meridian Chamber of Commerce Tuesday, April 20 at the Courtyard by Marriott, 1789 S. Eagle Rd (off Overland.) Maybe she&#8217;ll have some details. Reservations for the monthly luncheon were due by Friday, but seating might still be available. Call 888-2817 for details.</p>
<p>I still cannot visualize any site in downtown Meridian that could support this project without major traffic headaches and noise. Let you know if I hear more about the study, location, etc. FYI: Meridian also has Fairview Avenue, Main Street and 9th Street, which is what confused me on the graphic.</p>
<p>KTA</p>
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		By: cyclops		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/04/15/4530/#comment-18138</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cyclops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 04:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There is a small flaw to the discussion so far. It has centered on a location that would MAKE SENSE! What would cause anyone to assume that Boise city would do such a thing? It wouldn&#039;t surprise me, and it shouldn&#039;t surprise anyone, if they proposed to make Ann Morrison Park into a ball park!!! You need to think like the enemy if you expect to defeat, or control them!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a small flaw to the discussion so far. It has centered on a location that would MAKE SENSE! What would cause anyone to assume that Boise city would do such a thing? It wouldn&#8217;t surprise me, and it shouldn&#8217;t surprise anyone, if they proposed to make Ann Morrison Park into a ball park!!! You need to think like the enemy if you expect to defeat, or control them!!</p>
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