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		By: boisecynic		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/05/09/statehouse-workers-vs-nasty-students/#comment-18470</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[boisecynic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 14:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cyclops, here&#039;s 3 flaws in your reasoning. 

First, graffiti jerks are rarely caught. 

Second, if one is caught and forced to do clean up, that still doesn&#039;t stop others who think they&#039;re smart enough to not get caught. 

Third, catch and punish does nothing to dissuade future taggers because they are currently too young to have ever even heard of someone getting caught and punished for graffiti.

Ban spray paint and marker sales to minors. And require to post office to keep self adhesive labels behind the counter and not give them to minors. This is not rocket science. Cops and the media go hog wild over cannabis arrests, but graffiti,------it&#039;s ho-hum, big deal, can&#039;t see it from my house, doesn&#039;t affect me, I live in a lily-white suburb.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cyclops, here&#8217;s 3 flaws in your reasoning. </p>
<p>First, graffiti jerks are rarely caught. </p>
<p>Second, if one is caught and forced to do clean up, that still doesn&#8217;t stop others who think they&#8217;re smart enough to not get caught. </p>
<p>Third, catch and punish does nothing to dissuade future taggers because they are currently too young to have ever even heard of someone getting caught and punished for graffiti.</p>
<p>Ban spray paint and marker sales to minors. And require to post office to keep self adhesive labels behind the counter and not give them to minors. This is not rocket science. Cops and the media go hog wild over cannabis arrests, but graffiti,&#8212;&#8212;it&#8217;s ho-hum, big deal, can&#8217;t see it from my house, doesn&#8217;t affect me, I live in a lily-white suburb.</p>
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		By: boisecynic		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/05/09/statehouse-workers-vs-nasty-students/#comment-18469</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[boisecynic]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 14:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Take a swipe at me? Cyclops, what the heck?

You go completely off topic and try to solve nuclear proliferation with good parenting skills. Let me tell you something, all the good parenting skills in the world is not enough to help some kids. But that&#039;s off topic.

This particular case boils down to ONE SIMPLE PROBLEM. There is no good reason for the post office to have free graffiti stickers laying around up front. Hell, all you don&#039;t-spend-a-taxpayer-dime on anything people should be on my side. 

And for those clamoring for more surveillance, WHAT? A cop for every individual? Because that&#039;s what we&#039;d really need and it ain&#039;t going to happen. Not until we get robocops who work for free with no union contracts.

If above is too long for you to read:

POST OFFICE: Be a good neighbor and quit giving away free graffiti stickers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a swipe at me? Cyclops, what the heck?</p>
<p>You go completely off topic and try to solve nuclear proliferation with good parenting skills. Let me tell you something, all the good parenting skills in the world is not enough to help some kids. But that&#8217;s off topic.</p>
<p>This particular case boils down to ONE SIMPLE PROBLEM. There is no good reason for the post office to have free graffiti stickers laying around up front. Hell, all you don&#8217;t-spend-a-taxpayer-dime on anything people should be on my side. </p>
<p>And for those clamoring for more surveillance, WHAT? A cop for every individual? Because that&#8217;s what we&#8217;d really need and it ain&#8217;t going to happen. Not until we get robocops who work for free with no union contracts.</p>
<p>If above is too long for you to read:</p>
<p>POST OFFICE: Be a good neighbor and quit giving away free graffiti stickers.</p>
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		By: Dean Gunderson		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/05/09/statehouse-workers-vs-nasty-students/#comment-18464</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dean Gunderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 16:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Who said anything about not holding the perpetrators responsible?

My comment is aimed at those who, when they see a glass half-empty, think the world&#039;s reserve of civility is on the decline. I, on the other hand, am not a person who, when he sees the same glass, thinks things are looking pretty good -- I just see a glass half-empty, and I&#039;ll spend the time to look backwards and see that the glass has probably always been half-empty.

The kids who blew out the windows of the Federal Bldg (half a Century ago) had to pay to have the windows replaced, and had to fill the cannon&#039;s bore with concrete. Kids will always be kids, which is why parents have to always be parents.

If Civics were still a subject taught at school, we *might* not have as many acts of vandalism -- but, I&#039;m pretty sure we wouldn&#039;t have as many elected officials do a lot of the un-civil things they do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who said anything about not holding the perpetrators responsible?</p>
<p>My comment is aimed at those who, when they see a glass half-empty, think the world&#8217;s reserve of civility is on the decline. I, on the other hand, am not a person who, when he sees the same glass, thinks things are looking pretty good &#8212; I just see a glass half-empty, and I&#8217;ll spend the time to look backwards and see that the glass has probably always been half-empty.</p>
<p>The kids who blew out the windows of the Federal Bldg (half a Century ago) had to pay to have the windows replaced, and had to fill the cannon&#8217;s bore with concrete. Kids will always be kids, which is why parents have to always be parents.</p>
<p>If Civics were still a subject taught at school, we *might* not have as many acts of vandalism &#8212; but, I&#8217;m pretty sure we wouldn&#8217;t have as many elected officials do a lot of the un-civil things they do.</p>
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		By: Anthony		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/05/09/statehouse-workers-vs-nasty-students/#comment-18443</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 16:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[LOL, I have to laugh as when I was younger (not as long ago as some) I was a terror until I got caught and my dad etched his name in my but with his belt. Then I would do it again when the memory wore off. Kids blowing off or vandalizing with stickers is just another generation pushing the limits of what they can do. I say thank god it was only stickers and not some of the stuff we use to do when we cruised downtown. Or when we made Capital H.S. for sale with all the realty signs we put on the lawn late one night....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, I have to laugh as when I was younger (not as long ago as some) I was a terror until I got caught and my dad etched his name in my but with his belt. Then I would do it again when the memory wore off. Kids blowing off or vandalizing with stickers is just another generation pushing the limits of what they can do. I say thank god it was only stickers and not some of the stuff we use to do when we cruised downtown. Or when we made Capital H.S. for sale with all the realty signs we put on the lawn late one night&#8230;.</p>
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		By: TJ		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/05/09/statehouse-workers-vs-nasty-students/#comment-18414</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TJ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 07:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I remember when they plugged the cannon.  Boise was very small then.  I would bet my older brother knows who did that firing of the cannon.  Must have been fun.  Ah, the good old days.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember when they plugged the cannon.  Boise was very small then.  I would bet my older brother knows who did that firing of the cannon.  Must have been fun.  Ah, the good old days.</p>
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		By: cyclops		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/05/09/statehouse-workers-vs-nasty-students/#comment-18407</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cyclops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 15:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I apologize to Sis, it was Cynic I was after...........]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologize to Sis, it was Cynic I was after&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		By: cyclops		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/05/09/statehouse-workers-vs-nasty-students/#comment-18406</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cyclops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 15:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mr. Gunderson and Boise Cynic have identified the problem? Simply remove the temptation from the offenders and life will be fine. What about addressing the transgressors??? We cannot disregard the act, or the actors. There must be consequences for deviant behavior. What happened to the day when we identified the culprits and brought them back to the statehouse, gave them a putty knife and had a cop stand over them to make sure they cleaned the mess correctly??? Until we can return to that mindset, we are just going to watch it get worse.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Gunderson and Boise Cynic have identified the problem? Simply remove the temptation from the offenders and life will be fine. What about addressing the transgressors??? We cannot disregard the act, or the actors. There must be consequences for deviant behavior. What happened to the day when we identified the culprits and brought them back to the statehouse, gave them a putty knife and had a cop stand over them to make sure they cleaned the mess correctly??? Until we can return to that mindset, we are just going to watch it get worse.</p>
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		By: Pablo Hernandez		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/05/09/statehouse-workers-vs-nasty-students/#comment-18405</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pablo Hernandez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 13:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[boisecynic, sorry, but placing labels, paint, pens, pencils, markers or anything else that can be used for vandalism behind counters where we the public have to wait in line and &quot;beg&quot; for them is wrong.  Why punish all of us for the actions of a few.  Here&#039;s a better idea; since schools teach so much on line nowadays give them a virtual tour of the statehouse via the internet and they won&#039;t have to leave their school.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>boisecynic, sorry, but placing labels, paint, pens, pencils, markers or anything else that can be used for vandalism behind counters where we the public have to wait in line and &#8220;beg&#8221; for them is wrong.  Why punish all of us for the actions of a few.  Here&#8217;s a better idea; since schools teach so much on line nowadays give them a virtual tour of the statehouse via the internet and they won&#8217;t have to leave their school.</p>
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		By: Grumpy ole guy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/05/09/statehouse-workers-vs-nasty-students/#comment-18403</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Grumpy ole guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 04:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Really.  Kids acting like kids ~ whatever is the world coming to.  And on the Statehouse lawn, scandal of the highest order.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really.  Kids acting like kids ~ whatever is the world coming to.  And on the Statehouse lawn, scandal of the highest order.</p>
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		By: Dean Gunderson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dean Gunderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 03:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Reminds me of a story. Can anyone guess why the cannon out front of the State House is plugged with concrete?

Seems the perfect darlings of yester-year fairly regularly packed the cannon with firecrackers to every sensible adult&#039;s chagrin. Then one evening, some overeager kids decided to one-up everyone else and actually put a full charge of gunpower in the cannon and packed it with paper wadding. The resultant blast broke all the facing windows at the Federal Building across the street (now the downtown post office).

This was in the 1950&#039;s. 

The solution to any kid&#039;s misbehaving, is to simply remove the temptation. This was as true in 1950, as it is today, and will be in 2060.

Now, if we could only figure out a way to make sure no future governor could blockade the streets in front of the State House and place M16-armed guards at the intersections -- talk about uncivil behavior.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reminds me of a story. Can anyone guess why the cannon out front of the State House is plugged with concrete?</p>
<p>Seems the perfect darlings of yester-year fairly regularly packed the cannon with firecrackers to every sensible adult&#8217;s chagrin. Then one evening, some overeager kids decided to one-up everyone else and actually put a full charge of gunpower in the cannon and packed it with paper wadding. The resultant blast broke all the facing windows at the Federal Building across the street (now the downtown post office).</p>
<p>This was in the 1950&#8217;s. </p>
<p>The solution to any kid&#8217;s misbehaving, is to simply remove the temptation. This was as true in 1950, as it is today, and will be in 2060.</p>
<p>Now, if we could only figure out a way to make sure no future governor could blockade the streets in front of the State House and place M16-armed guards at the intersections &#8212; talk about uncivil behavior.</p>
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