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		By: Diane		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/05/14/commish-candidates-tame-at-city-club/#comment-20615</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Diane]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 15:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve stopped watching the candidates debates.  I rarely read the garbage they propogate in the paper.  They expect people to vote according to how much hatred they can conjure up about the other person, not about what they think they might be able to do, or, who they think they might be able to work with to find common ground, both sides of the fence.  Politics these days are hateful, ridiculous, and counter productive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve stopped watching the candidates debates.  I rarely read the garbage they propogate in the paper.  They expect people to vote according to how much hatred they can conjure up about the other person, not about what they think they might be able to do, or, who they think they might be able to work with to find common ground, both sides of the fence.  Politics these days are hateful, ridiculous, and counter productive.</p>
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		By: Snoop		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snoop]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 04:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow, am I the only one that read the interviews by the Statesman? I am amazed at the Roger and Vern show. Roger has made claims that Rick only does and says what Fred tells him to but I am starting to see that it is Roger that is trying to tell Vern what to do and say. Who wants a commission that Roger runs? 

Then there is the great &quot;Five Point Plan,&quot; what a joke. Even Vern doesn&#039;t agree with the five points. He mentions that two of them he has problems with. So who&#039;s five point plan is it? I am also amazed at how lame the great five point plan really is. They are all five feel good points, but I am amazed at how two former commissioners can be that stupid. Most of their points the commissioners don&#039;t actually have control over.

I also find it very amusing that Roger  has &quot;grown up&quot; and can now miraculously work with others. He is the one that is out there touting that the county needs to work better with the other cities, but he himself doesn&#039;t play well with others. Please do not be conned into thinking Roger is this great guy that is open minded and will work well with others just because is babysits the neighbors dogs. It is obvious that most of you on here don&#039;t remember the nasty days of Roger on the commission. ADA County was actually the laughing stock of the State due to the &quot;Five Point Plan&quot; man. 

I am also very intrigued that Roger can&#039;t run on his own merits, especially for as long as he was in office. Instead he is running on his opponents past. I received his mailer and started laughing when I saw the he is claiming the Rick inherited his businesses. Is that what it is called now when you buy a company? Is this really who we want at the helm of the county? I also thought it was ironic that Roger gave himself a bigger raise in the time he was in office but is out there professing to the world how much the commissioners make now.

Then there is the five member commission. That is the worst idea I have heard in a long time. Even Vern doesn&#039;t think it is a good idea.  I am just floored out at how some of you can even think about voting for Roger or Vern!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, am I the only one that read the interviews by the Statesman? I am amazed at the Roger and Vern show. Roger has made claims that Rick only does and says what Fred tells him to but I am starting to see that it is Roger that is trying to tell Vern what to do and say. Who wants a commission that Roger runs? </p>
<p>Then there is the great &#8220;Five Point Plan,&#8221; what a joke. Even Vern doesn&#8217;t agree with the five points. He mentions that two of them he has problems with. So who&#8217;s five point plan is it? I am also amazed at how lame the great five point plan really is. They are all five feel good points, but I am amazed at how two former commissioners can be that stupid. Most of their points the commissioners don&#8217;t actually have control over.</p>
<p>I also find it very amusing that Roger  has &#8220;grown up&#8221; and can now miraculously work with others. He is the one that is out there touting that the county needs to work better with the other cities, but he himself doesn&#8217;t play well with others. Please do not be conned into thinking Roger is this great guy that is open minded and will work well with others just because is babysits the neighbors dogs. It is obvious that most of you on here don&#8217;t remember the nasty days of Roger on the commission. ADA County was actually the laughing stock of the State due to the &#8220;Five Point Plan&#8221; man. </p>
<p>I am also very intrigued that Roger can&#8217;t run on his own merits, especially for as long as he was in office. Instead he is running on his opponents past. I received his mailer and started laughing when I saw the he is claiming the Rick inherited his businesses. Is that what it is called now when you buy a company? Is this really who we want at the helm of the county? I also thought it was ironic that Roger gave himself a bigger raise in the time he was in office but is out there professing to the world how much the commissioners make now.</p>
<p>Then there is the five member commission. That is the worst idea I have heard in a long time. Even Vern doesn&#8217;t think it is a good idea.  I am just floored out at how some of you can even think about voting for Roger or Vern!</p>
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		By: Sisyphus		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 00:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry that Roger and Vern didn&#039;t have more on the ball that day at the City Club.  I attended and was disappointed in everyone&#039;s performance.  While Yzaguirre and Tilman seemed more the polished politicians, their responses lacked substance and were defensive.  But their tenure has been marked by obstinance, lack of communication, and some outright failures as with the race track.  I am voting in the Republican primary and its because of this race.

It seems clear to me that all the current commissioners have used the office for their own personal aggrandizement whether its for the salary, the benefits or to launch a bid for higher office.  Throw the bums out. I like the idea of voting for a couple guys out to make their jobs obsolete.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry that Roger and Vern didn&#8217;t have more on the ball that day at the City Club.  I attended and was disappointed in everyone&#8217;s performance.  While Yzaguirre and Tilman seemed more the polished politicians, their responses lacked substance and were defensive.  But their tenure has been marked by obstinance, lack of communication, and some outright failures as with the race track.  I am voting in the Republican primary and its because of this race.</p>
<p>It seems clear to me that all the current commissioners have used the office for their own personal aggrandizement whether its for the salary, the benefits or to launch a bid for higher office.  Throw the bums out. I like the idea of voting for a couple guys out to make their jobs obsolete.</p>
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		By: Paul		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 17:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If the Ada Courthouse was indeed &quot;free&quot; then all they need to do is quit writing the $4.5MM checks each year and see what happens.

I would be willing to bet we could find out who owns the place in a big hurry.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Ada Courthouse was indeed &#8220;free&#8221; then all they need to do is quit writing the $4.5MM checks each year and see what happens.</p>
<p>I would be willing to bet we could find out who owns the place in a big hurry.</p>
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		By: Kappa TA		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kappa TA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 15:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Cyclops:

Mr. Thomson is a sitting Boise City Councilman. How about a little respect for his honest views. I repect your views, though I disagree with them on this issue. In time, you will see that Vern and Roger are the right men in the R-primary for the commish races, no matter your personal opinion of them or their past mistakes. In the end, it all comes out in the wash, as the saying goes. Have a super day!

KTA]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cyclops:</p>
<p>Mr. Thomson is a sitting Boise City Councilman. How about a little respect for his honest views. I repect your views, though I disagree with them on this issue. In time, you will see that Vern and Roger are the right men in the R-primary for the commish races, no matter your personal opinion of them or their past mistakes. In the end, it all comes out in the wash, as the saying goes. Have a super day!</p>
<p>KTA</p>
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		By: cyclops		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cyclops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 05:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TJ, you are the perfect candidate for this bridge I have. Honest! You will really like it and I can get you a heckuva deal!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TJ, you are the perfect candidate for this bridge I have. Honest! You will really like it and I can get you a heckuva deal!</p>
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		By: TJ Thomson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TJ Thomson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 00:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Roger Simmons and Vern Bisterfeldt offer a two-year, five point plan that includes eliminating double-taxation by the County on citizens of Boise, Garden City and Meridian; redirecting more Ada County resources to economic development &#038; job creation; and bringing county property values down to more realistic levels to reflect the current housing market. 

As our Valley faces difficult times, our County needs leadership and know-how from Roger and Vern more than ever to strengthen our communities.  Their experience is unparalleled and their commitment to improving the lives of Ada County citizens is unquestionable.

You can learn more about Roger Simmons &#038; Vern Bisterfeldt and their vision for Ada County at www.fivestepstoabetteradacounty.com]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger Simmons and Vern Bisterfeldt offer a two-year, five point plan that includes eliminating double-taxation by the County on citizens of Boise, Garden City and Meridian; redirecting more Ada County resources to economic development &amp; job creation; and bringing county property values down to more realistic levels to reflect the current housing market. </p>
<p>As our Valley faces difficult times, our County needs leadership and know-how from Roger and Vern more than ever to strengthen our communities.  Their experience is unparalleled and their commitment to improving the lives of Ada County citizens is unquestionable.</p>
<p>You can learn more about Roger Simmons &amp; Vern Bisterfeldt and their vision for Ada County at <a href="http://www.fivestepstoabetteradacounty.com" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.fivestepstoabetteradacounty.com</a></p>
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		By: Kappa TA		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kappa TA]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 00:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Update: DAILY has &quot;reluctantly endorsed&quot; the sitting commissioners. See today&#039;s (May 16) opinion page. As a voter, I find the whole thing kind of sad. If I were an R, however, I would still cast a vote for Simmons and Bisterfeldt based on overwhelming reasons against the incumbents.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update: DAILY has &#8220;reluctantly endorsed&#8221; the sitting commissioners. See today&#8217;s (May 16) opinion page. As a voter, I find the whole thing kind of sad. If I were an R, however, I would still cast a vote for Simmons and Bisterfeldt based on overwhelming reasons against the incumbents.</p>
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		By: cyclops		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cyclops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 05:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just can&#039;t get past Roger standing in front of the cameras and saying &quot;this building will not cost the taxpayer of Ada County anything&quot;. I also find it ironic that Roger seems to be always referring to &quot;WE&quot; meaning he and Vern, during the campaign. Vern is the definition of public service for this community for decades. Roger? Not so much!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just can&#8217;t get past Roger standing in front of the cameras and saying &#8220;this building will not cost the taxpayer of Ada County anything&#8221;. I also find it ironic that Roger seems to be always referring to &#8220;WE&#8221; meaning he and Vern, during the campaign. Vern is the definition of public service for this community for decades. Roger? Not so much!!!</p>
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		By: Frustrated		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frustrated]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 17:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why doesn&#039;t anyone seem to care about the constant campaigning (for governor by Ulmann and for county seats by the other two) while being paid, according to Simmons, $93,000 a year? In private industry if you were paid that much and did your personal business on the company&#039;s dime, you&#039;d be fired!

EDITOR NOTE--Frustrated, you need to include the Guv, Senator, Congressmen, and every other incumbent as well.  We don&#039;t like it either, but that&#039;s the way it is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why doesn&#8217;t anyone seem to care about the constant campaigning (for governor by Ulmann and for county seats by the other two) while being paid, according to Simmons, $93,000 a year? In private industry if you were paid that much and did your personal business on the company&#8217;s dime, you&#8217;d be fired!</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Frustrated, you need to include the Guv, Senator, Congressmen, and every other incumbent as well.  We don&#8217;t like it either, but that&#8217;s the way it is.</p>
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