Comments on: Gas-Fired Power Plant Aborted, City Headed For Solar Deal

By: idagreen

idagreen — Thu, 10 Jun 2010 12:59:41 +0000

Zippo’s pot is brown, that’s why he’s so cranky.

The election is long over Cyclops, better get over it or get campaigning. Sometimes the voice of the people says things you don’t want to hear. But don’t worry, maybe there’s a coalmine or cave development somewhere that you can champion. Now if we could just create energy from negativity we could light up the town from this site.

By: cyclops

cyclops — Sat, 05 Jun 2010 15:59:29 +0000

Sisyphus, you should know well that what one says publicly during a campaign is as much cheerleading as prediction. I belive that you would find that what I said was that this mayor should be run out of town due to complete incompetence on his part. Internally, two days before the election, I stated we would lose in a squeaker, or we would get our butts handed to us. Unfortunately, it was the latter. I take as much responsibility for that as anyone.
To this day, I firmly believe that a different outcome of that race would have made this city a better place today.

By: Zippo

Zippo — Sat, 05 Jun 2010 06:17:11 +0000

Sis, Happy to be drawing your fire as I must be getting too near the truth. Is DB your client? Lots of money in the image management business.

Boo! Nope, I’m still here… will be next week too… LOL!

By: sam the sham

sam the sham — Sat, 05 Jun 2010 00:51:22 +0000

I knew that you would be digging into this, that the Statesman’s “news” was just an arrow pointing to the real reporting of The Guardian.

By: Sisyphus

Sisyphus — Fri, 04 Jun 2010 20:25:11 +0000

Zippy, you must often look a fool without a mirror in the house. Personal attack? I believe these words are yours to describe people on this thread: “stupid” “dishonest” “brain dammaged” (sic). Perhaps you could reflect on the color of your pot before pointing at kettles. Your skills at prognostication notwithstanding, I’m self employed and watch no network TV. I reckon your opinions of anthropogenic climate change are equally well grounded.

Cyclops, if I recall correctly, I believe you predicted that the electorate would hand Bieter his hat in a landslide every time he’s run. I’ll give your predictions on how’ll they’ll vote on this project all the credibility it has earned. But I do agree that if it fails, partisanship will likely be at the root of it.

By: cyclops

cyclops — Fri, 04 Jun 2010 03:08:06 +0000

Please don’t tell me that anyone actually believes that this project will really happen! This is purely political posturing on the city’s part. If anyone believes that the state legislature will give a local option for taxation, they are in Wonderland! If, by the slimmest chance known to man, the legislature does give the authority, does anyone really belive the majority of the citizens will vote for it? Did ya’ll miss the fact that Bieter is hinging his costs on Ada AND Canyon counties authorizing this? These guys can’t even have lunch together without an argument. Now Bieter expects us to believe they will join in a common taxation effort? What a crock! It is really too bad because the need to explore all alternative sources of energy is needed. The guy espousing this would screw up a two car funeral! And that is the primary reason it won’t fly!

By: erico49

erico49 — Fri, 04 Jun 2010 00:46:33 +0000

Hi, Goobs

I don’t think I criticized the company… just pointed out that they were new. Joe, God rest his soul, didn’t have to deal with negotiating a lease with the city, the FAA, and likely DEQ. I wish them well, but let’s talk again in October and see if construction has started. And then again in fall 2011 to see if it’s functional.

By: Zippo

Zippo — Thu, 03 Jun 2010 23:25:24 +0000

Sis… I can’t help but think of that disease that sounds just like your handle… other than the personal attack on me, can you tell me where I’m factually wrong in my overly simplified description of the stupid and/or dishonest who’d like to think their pooh don’t stink? I’m bettn’ you live off one or more government checks and still watch CBS.

I’d like to see a transition too, but we already know a solar farm this small and with this old technology is a gimmick… an expensive one too. Cali is tapped so they see what Dave will give em 1) we don’t need the power. 2) If we did, NG is very clean and come right down a pipe from Canada… no goofy people with towel on head, no dead sea-life involved at all.

By: Sisyphus

Sisyphus — Thu, 03 Jun 2010 19:07:39 +0000

The transition to renewable sources should be well underway by now and I’m glad someone in this state is taking the lead. Yes we need many more incentives for solar and wind power cause the the upfront costs are heavy. But once in, its one less trip to the gas station. Continued reliance on foreign oil isn’t just short sighted and lazy its a national security risk.

But more importantly on a local level we finally have a political leader taking the bull by the horns and providing direction where the state elected politicos continue to shrink Idaho’s economy instead of providing solutions for more hopeful tomorrow with green jobs and the prospect of a green economy. We lost a tremendous opportunity for more green jobs because of their short sightedness. The legislature should be implementing tax breaks for all individuals to get into the game.

Hey Zippy, as I recall the Pope excommunicated Copernicus and threatened to kill him unless he recanted his heliocentric model of the universe. Your rant reminds me of that Papal bull. And instead of you lifting your knuckles off the ground to scratch your noggin’ with your mouth agape trying to figure out how to pronounce he-li-o-cen-tric, why don’t you take the next plane to the Gulf coast and report for clean up duty, drill-boy.

By: Rod in SE Boise

Rod in SE Boise — Thu, 03 Jun 2010 17:29:12 +0000

The last sentence of the Guardian’s post: “Since Idaho Power is required to provide “peak demand capacity” it is not always in their best interests to buy outside power.”

My comment: Idaho Power is a public utility and should be operated in the best interest of the public (consumers), and not in the best interest of Idaho Power.

If the city owns land it is not going to use, very soon, for city-owned facilities, like libraries or parks, that land should be sold. The city should not be in the land speculation business or any other business.

And why do some of the commenters think that oil will last forever? Don’t they pay any attention to the news? Of course they don’t, they get their opinions from fact-deprived knuckleheads like Sarah “drill, baby, drill” Palin.

The fact is – we ARE going to run out of oil and we need to be developing solar power, or our grandchildren will either starve or freeze.

EDITOR NOTE–Our point with regard to costs/profits is that solar is apparently expensive to produce at this time and rate payers could be on the hook. There are incentives for Idaho Power from the Feds to use solar however.