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	Comments on: City &#8220;Varnishes&#8221; Mayor Hotline Public Record	</title>
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		By: untamedshrew		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/07/28/city-varnishes-mayor-hotline-public-record/#comment-19693</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[untamedshrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 00:34:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I see.  Despite the fact that your first post referred only to Guardian readers who read these transcripts for amusement, you actually don&#039;t want the transcripts for Guardian purposes primarily, but are asking on behalf of the entire media, Boise citizens and, surprisingly, city councilors.  How good of you to speak on their behalf.

Upon what basis can you claim that the city&#039;s intention here is to make access more difficult?  I assume this is simply your varnished assumption rather than a statement of fact.  This new process saves us money as taxpayers.  The audio recordings are accessible if one so chooses to access and transcribe the calls on his or her own.  How does this process lack transparency?  The information is available, just in a different, more cost effective format.  Indeed, access to a recording of the caller’s voice is probably as unvarnished as it gets, and probably gives a lot more nuance than is available in a written format.  Moreover, the exceptions you refer to applied to the transcripts as well as the recordings, as I’m sure you are aware.
  
You and your readers complain incessantly about wasteful city spending, except, apparently, when continued unnecessary city spending suits your purposes.   It is precisely this type of double standard that calls into question the credibility of this blog.   Since you varnish every single decision coming out of City Hall with unsupported impure motives, how can any intelligent reader give credence to a single word you write?

I&#039;m no insider, just another interested concerned citizen who prefers unvarnished, unbiased reporting rather than knee-jerk, often self-serving reactions such as those frequently posted here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see.  Despite the fact that your first post referred only to Guardian readers who read these transcripts for amusement, you actually don&#8217;t want the transcripts for Guardian purposes primarily, but are asking on behalf of the entire media, Boise citizens and, surprisingly, city councilors.  How good of you to speak on their behalf.</p>
<p>Upon what basis can you claim that the city&#8217;s intention here is to make access more difficult?  I assume this is simply your varnished assumption rather than a statement of fact.  This new process saves us money as taxpayers.  The audio recordings are accessible if one so chooses to access and transcribe the calls on his or her own.  How does this process lack transparency?  The information is available, just in a different, more cost effective format.  Indeed, access to a recording of the caller’s voice is probably as unvarnished as it gets, and probably gives a lot more nuance than is available in a written format.  Moreover, the exceptions you refer to applied to the transcripts as well as the recordings, as I’m sure you are aware.</p>
<p>You and your readers complain incessantly about wasteful city spending, except, apparently, when continued unnecessary city spending suits your purposes.   It is precisely this type of double standard that calls into question the credibility of this blog.   Since you varnish every single decision coming out of City Hall with unsupported impure motives, how can any intelligent reader give credence to a single word you write?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m no insider, just another interested concerned citizen who prefers unvarnished, unbiased reporting rather than knee-jerk, often self-serving reactions such as those frequently posted here.</p>
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		By: So Much For Open Government Mr Mayor		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/07/28/city-varnishes-mayor-hotline-public-record/#comment-19681</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[So Much For Open Government Mr Mayor]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So Much For Open Government Mr Mayor!

Another promise BROKEN!

No surprise - business as usual Mr. Mayor. Very very sad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Much For Open Government Mr Mayor!</p>
<p>Another promise BROKEN!</p>
<p>No surprise &#8211; business as usual Mr. Mayor. Very very sad.</p>
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		By: untamedshrew		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/07/28/city-varnishes-mayor-hotline-public-record/#comment-19679</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[untamedshrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 15:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Let me get this straight.  The City wrote you a letter saying you are free to come and listen to and record the calls yourself.   However, you argue here that the city should continue to transcribe those calls for you, at taxpayer&#039;s expense, for the benefit of your readers?  For &quot;entertainment and topics of public discussion?&quot;

EDITOR NOTE-- Not for me.  For all the city councilors, media, and citizens who seek the &quot;unvarnished&quot; version.  The transcription process came long before the advent of the GUARDIAN.  As an insider, you certainly know the intent of offering the audio version--with &quot;numerous exemptions&quot;-- is INTENDED to make it difficult.  We would no longer be able to redact phone numbers and addresses as we do in consideration of callers.

As a writer, you could surely transcribe those calls yourself and provide them here, for the benefit of your readers.  How ironic (and hypocritical?) that you think the City should do this for you.

EDITOR NOTE--Transcription came along way prior to the GUARDIAN.  You know the GUARDIAN is one of many who receive the report, including councilors, department heads, and all the rest of the media.  Perhaps some of that $60,000 for the PR firm could go toward transparency.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me get this straight.  The City wrote you a letter saying you are free to come and listen to and record the calls yourself.   However, you argue here that the city should continue to transcribe those calls for you, at taxpayer&#8217;s expense, for the benefit of your readers?  For &#8220;entertainment and topics of public discussion?&#8221;</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211; Not for me.  For all the city councilors, media, and citizens who seek the &#8220;unvarnished&#8221; version.  The transcription process came long before the advent of the GUARDIAN.  As an insider, you certainly know the intent of offering the audio version&#8211;with &#8220;numerous exemptions&#8221;&#8211; is INTENDED to make it difficult.  We would no longer be able to redact phone numbers and addresses as we do in consideration of callers.</p>
<p>As a writer, you could surely transcribe those calls yourself and provide them here, for the benefit of your readers.  How ironic (and hypocritical?) that you think the City should do this for you.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Transcription came along way prior to the GUARDIAN.  You know the GUARDIAN is one of many who receive the report, including councilors, department heads, and all the rest of the media.  Perhaps some of that $60,000 for the PR firm could go toward transparency.</p>
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		By: JIMV		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/07/28/city-varnishes-mayor-hotline-public-record/#comment-19672</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JIMV]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 03:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The city does not like being exposed for its many screw ups so they are fixing the problem...the way to deal with petty local bureaucrats is to confront them, embarrass them and vote them out of office. When the public laughs at them, the job is done.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The city does not like being exposed for its many screw ups so they are fixing the problem&#8230;the way to deal with petty local bureaucrats is to confront them, embarrass them and vote them out of office. When the public laughs at them, the job is done.</p>
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		By: Zippo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zippo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dave, might I suggest you start your own hotline for regional issues and the powers that be can then get a copy from you.

EDITOR NOTE--Great Idea!  We do a lot of &quot;hotline&quot; work already fielding messages via e-mail from readers who are stonewalled by the city.  For the most part city department heads--with some exceptions--do a great job and respond well to citizen complaints filtered through the GUARDIAN.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave, might I suggest you start your own hotline for regional issues and the powers that be can then get a copy from you.</p>
<p>EDITOR NOTE&#8211;Great Idea!  We do a lot of &#8220;hotline&#8221; work already fielding messages via e-mail from readers who are stonewalled by the city.  For the most part city department heads&#8211;with some exceptions&#8211;do a great job and respond well to citizen complaints filtered through the GUARDIAN.</p>
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		By: bikeboy		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/07/28/city-varnishes-mayor-hotline-public-record/#comment-19661</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bikeboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I will be calling the Mayor&#039;s Hotline, to protest the sanitization of the Mayor&#039;s Hotline calls!  (That won&#039;t create some kind of unexpected &quot;feedback loop&quot; that will result in organic life ceasing to exist... will it?)

I would encourage fellow &lt;i&gt;Guardian&lt;/i&gt; readers to do the same!  This is bogus!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will be calling the Mayor&#8217;s Hotline, to protest the sanitization of the Mayor&#8217;s Hotline calls!  (That won&#8217;t create some kind of unexpected &#8220;feedback loop&#8221; that will result in organic life ceasing to exist&#8230; will it?)</p>
<p>I would encourage fellow <i>Guardian</i> readers to do the same!  This is bogus!</p>
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		By: cyclops		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/07/28/city-varnishes-mayor-hotline-public-record/#comment-19660</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cyclops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 22:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As usual, zuzel throws another shovel full of dung in the public&#039;s face! It is one helluva way to run a railroad!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual, zuzel throws another shovel full of dung in the public&#8217;s face! It is one helluva way to run a railroad!</p>
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		By: ericn1300		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/07/28/city-varnishes-mayor-hotline-public-record/#comment-19658</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ericn1300]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A digital audio recording can easily be made in mp3 format with most mp3 players at the time the call is reviewed. It&#039;s not real hard just push the record button, then plug the player into a USB port and wallah you have a digital recording. Cost, under 20 bucks up front and little more to convert to digital and probably a lot less than archiving the analog version as required under public records laws.

As far as &quot;Some of our past favorites&quot; it would be great if you had some HTML links to them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A digital audio recording can easily be made in mp3 format with most mp3 players at the time the call is reviewed. It&#8217;s not real hard just push the record button, then plug the player into a USB port and wallah you have a digital recording. Cost, under 20 bucks up front and little more to convert to digital and probably a lot less than archiving the analog version as required under public records laws.</p>
<p>As far as &#8220;Some of our past favorites&#8221; it would be great if you had some HTML links to them.</p>
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