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		By: dog		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/07/29/no-f-35-for-gowen-possible-italian-cargo-planes/#comment-19705</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dang, now we won&#039;t get to hear the &quot;sound of freedom&quot; on a daily basis.  We&#039;ll be be less free without daily F35 flights over our city?  Will terrorists bring the fight to our streets now that they know Boise is vulnerable?  This is all Obama&#039;s fault. Boise is soon to be a socialistic haven for terrorists.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dang, now we won&#8217;t get to hear the &#8220;sound of freedom&#8221; on a daily basis.  We&#8217;ll be be less free without daily F35 flights over our city?  Will terrorists bring the fight to our streets now that they know Boise is vulnerable?  This is all Obama&#8217;s fault. Boise is soon to be a socialistic haven for terrorists.</p>
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		By: Croaker260		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Croaker260]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-27J_Spartan 

Paul: Did some research,and while the C-27 is an update of an (relatively) older G222 but is far from &quot;old&quot;. In fact its a spring chicken when comapared to the C-5 and the C-130, since its really only been produced in the last 10 or so years. 


Zippo: it was an Italian/American cooperative project, originally with Lockheed-martin and then (IIRC) Boing. 

In a nutshell its a smaller, but more up to date version of the C-130 that can land places the C-130 cant.  Its also suppsed to be a better fit for AC/Gunship/close air support ops in theater than the AC-130 because of this . Since it can land at even smaller airstrips than the AC-130, it can be staged closer to the action, and therefore  have a shorter response time when needed. 

64.01% :   Now Im not an expert on fire supression using aviation assets like the C-130, but since it uses the same loading system the C-130 does, and the fire suppression system they use is a pallet-loaded drop in module, it may also be able to fight fires! I dont know though. I seriously doubt we would see many of them doing firefighting in in the first few years of production due to other more specific needs over in the sand box.  Thats just my guess.]]></description>
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<p>Paul: Did some research,and while the C-27 is an update of an (relatively) older G222 but is far from &#8220;old&#8221;. In fact its a spring chicken when comapared to the C-5 and the C-130, since its really only been produced in the last 10 or so years. </p>
<p>Zippo: it was an Italian/American cooperative project, originally with Lockheed-martin and then (IIRC) Boing. </p>
<p>In a nutshell its a smaller, but more up to date version of the C-130 that can land places the C-130 cant.  Its also suppsed to be a better fit for AC/Gunship/close air support ops in theater than the AC-130 because of this . Since it can land at even smaller airstrips than the AC-130, it can be staged closer to the action, and therefore  have a shorter response time when needed. </p>
<p>64.01% :   Now Im not an expert on fire supression using aviation assets like the C-130, but since it uses the same loading system the C-130 does, and the fire suppression system they use is a pallet-loaded drop in module, it may also be able to fight fires! I dont know though. I seriously doubt we would see many of them doing firefighting in in the first few years of production due to other more specific needs over in the sand box.  Thats just my guess.</p>
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		By: Zippo		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/07/29/no-f-35-for-gowen-possible-italian-cargo-planes/#comment-19699</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zippo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Italian, because America can&#039;t build one as good anymore.  Would love to have it.  Not the high-priced noise-maker though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Italian, because America can&#8217;t build one as good anymore.  Would love to have it.  Not the high-priced noise-maker though.</p>
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		By: cyclops		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/07/29/no-f-35-for-gowen-possible-italian-cargo-planes/#comment-19697</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cyclops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They only work with the thrust reversers so they are always backing up!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They only work with the thrust reversers so they are always backing up!</p>
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		By: Paul		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wonder why we need yet another cold war era airplane?  I watched the series Carrier on PBS and I don&#039;t recall any ordinance getting put down the entire deployment. 

The cost of that deployement has to be hundreds of millions.  I say more predators and raptors.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder why we need yet another cold war era airplane?  I watched the series Carrier on PBS and I don&#8217;t recall any ordinance getting put down the entire deployment. </p>
<p>The cost of that deployement has to be hundreds of millions.  I say more predators and raptors.</p>
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		By: serendipity		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[serendipity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 00:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey--do these Italian planes have backup lights?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey&#8211;do these Italian planes have backup lights?</p>
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		By: cyclops		</title>
		<link>https://boiseguardian.com/2010/07/29/no-f-35-for-gowen-possible-italian-cargo-planes/#comment-19692</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cyclops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Unless you and your buddies downtown can come up with a title, I doubt it is your&#039;s to re-fit!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless you and your buddies downtown can come up with a title, I doubt it is your&#8217;s to re-fit!!</p>
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		By: 64.01%		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[64.01%]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Can we retrofit a C-27 J and use it for wildfire suppression?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we retrofit a C-27 J and use it for wildfire suppression?</p>
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